RE: [hockhist] AAHL/ConHL/ACHL Questions
>I'd like to see [hockey return to Winston-Salem] too but IIIRC (Don Moore can tell you more about it than I can), a few years ago
>doubt it will ever happen.
the coliseum that had served as the home for the Thunderbirds for so
many years was torn down and a new arena built in its place. This new
arena was, for some reason, specifically designed so that it can not
possibly hold a rink anywhere near regulation size. I don't know the
details, but I assume that the location of the permanent seating is
such that there's far less than 200' x 85' in the center.
>The IceHawks played in the smaller annex which I believe satNot quite that bad -- it seated 3,412.
>>I do think that Johnstown is in for the foreseeable future butI don't expect Johnstown to go anywhere. I expect to see the implosion
>>at some point...
>That point will come some day, I agree. I've just given up
>expecting it to come any time soon.
to continue, and I expect it to hurt non-traditional markets more than
traditional markets. I think the minor league hockey landscape will be
a little more modest in the future, and the Johnstowns and Wheelings
will be better equipped to survive when they don't have to compete with
the Pensacolas and Lafayettes.
>1. They expected more of the small-market midwestern IHL teams toErase the "to the ECHL" and they did -- Fort Wayne and Kalamazoo to the
>follow Peoria's lead and move down to the ECHL.
UHL and Indianapolis to the CHL. The ECHL's only mistake was assuming
they were the only game in town. Kalamazoo would have been stretching
things, but I think Fort Wayne would have been a great ECHL city.
However, the UHL proposed a better deal, and got a very solid team as a
>2. Some of the stronger Colonial League teams would give u onI have heard rumors that Quad City actually approached the ECHL and was
>that league and move to the ECHL (Quad City for example).
turned down. I don't know the details, however, and the rumor may be
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>In the year Fresno played in the SuHL, they alsoI have a few rosters from a few teams on my site:
>played in some mystereous semi-pro league called the
>Pacific Coast Hockey League - 'mystereous' since I
>have never seen neither the standings, statistics nor
>the other teams listed for this league. I remember
>seeing this ghost league's name cropping up
>occassionally in "Hockey Ink!"
They are courtesy of Kurt Wahlsen, who played in the league. I think that a lot of the games were played in Fresno, and some in San Diego. I don't think all teams had a home rink. The games were more-or-less weekend only, and some "big name" players were flown in, like Rick Chartraw, for example)
A lot of the Alaska guys played at U. of Alaska. You can see the checklist of their trading card set here:
and see the players. Sometimes I don't have any stats listed for them.