53703Re: [hockhist] Re: Ron Grahame
- Apr 2, 2011Thanks for digging this up Lloyd!
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From: Lloyd Davis
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [hockhist] Re: Ron Grahame
Felt a sense of deja vu.
Morey responded to the same question in September 2001. I quote:
> 1. He had to replace Rogie Vachon in L.A.
> 2. Never had to worry about things called "rebounds" in Boston (with
> Park et al) and Houston (with Popiel, very underrated defenseman),
> but had to in L.A.
> 3. Was outplayed by Mario Lessard
> 4. Never left his feet. Moved from side to side, and didn't cover
> the posts too particularly well. Not good if you give up rebounds.
From Bill Underwood in August 2000:
> And I don't think that Grahame elevated the Houston team, it was
> vice versa!
> Clear evidence -- other Houston goalies did the EXACT same thing! It
> Smokey McLeod NOT Grahame who swept Chicago in the '74 final
> allowing a
> paltry 9 goals! The next year, the Aeros dominated the Nordiques. They
> had a 5-0 lead early in the second of game one, game 2 was close on
> board but it seems like the hot hand in net was Brodeur as they
> outshot them
> 47-26! Game 3 was a tight goalie duel. Game 4, Houston
> took a 4-0 lead by the half way point! Plus, Rutledge, a career NHL
> journeyman only played 8 less games than Grahame and their comparative
> GAA -- Grahame 3.03, Rutledge 3.23! Flash forward to 1976, the rise
> of the
> Jets... Grahame had 24 goals blasted by him! The difference, the
> Aero team
> simply couldn't match the Jets and Grahame made ABSOLUTELY NO
> Unlike Parent, who at least made games close against a superior
> Montreal team
> in his day, Grahame was no help here! His backup actuallty had a
> better GAA
> (which can be decieving I concede)!
> I do know a lot of people that played in the WHA, including some ex
> people. The name Grahame never really came up. The Howes, you bet;
> for sure; Tonelli too! Once his son began to come up, his name was
> some as a good WHA goalie. But never talked about like say a
> Cheevers as a
> great goalie!
From Morey, in the same thread:
> Only when Grahame got to L.A. and he didn't
> realize you were supposed to cover both posts in L.A. because the
> defense did not how to clear rebounds did he stink out the joint.
Also from Bill, in the same thread:
> Grahame was an AVERAGE NHL netminder.
> Putting him in Parent's class is simply revisionist history!
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