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  • D. Atkinson
    The part in all of this that bothers me (almost all of it sounds really good) is: Individual players also have usage preferences that may be set including how
    Message 1 of 3 , May 31, 2010
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      The part in all of this that bothers me (almost all of it sounds really good) is:

      Individual players also have usage preferences that may be set including how often to pass or shoot from different ice locations

      Many a game has crashed and burned in the past by allowing TOO MUCH player control. This typically leads to having the "star" shoot as much as possible, skewing all results. I remember playing with the hockey game from Lance Haffner in the early 90s (when the Pens were good) and one could just make Lemieux shoot 25 times a game and almost never lose. And putting fatigue controls on players that are shooting too much, making them ineffective late in the game because they took too many shots earlier, is somewhat unrealistic. This part will be interesting to see.....too much player control leads to issues with gameplay and realism.

               d

      Dave Bole wrote:
       

      

      This basically breaks down what we ( APBA ) players
      are asking....  Other than the questions about season
      disk and buying and entire packaged game every year.
       
       

      Strategies

      Action PC Hockey includes a wealth of strategy options. Strategies include forecheckers used, defensive zone aggressiveness and depth, offensive zone entry method, and offensive zone system. Strategies may be set for the team as a whole, as well as for specific line combinations and game situations. A programmable computer coach is also available for each team including line usage, offensive and defensive styles, late game strategy adjustments, and preferences for when to change or pull goalies. Individual players also have usage preferences that may be set including how often to pass or shoot from different ice locations, how often to attempt to deflect shots, join in odd man rushes, and attempt to penetrate past defenders. To help in understanding the influence each strategy has on the game, an in depth strategy guide is available free from this site.

       Top of page

      League/Roster Management

      A complete set of general manager functions makes it easy to operate your league. Create, modify, draft and trade players and teams. Design depth charts and set line combinations with all stats and ratings easily available. Save up to five complete sets of line combinations for each team. Create and assign ice graphics, team logos, and player photos. Customize league rules including roster limits, overtime and shootout rules, penalties, suspensions, player usage rules, icing and offsides rules, and many miscellaneous rules such as video review of goals and automatic TV timeouts.

       Top of page

      Statistics and Reports

      Action! PC Hockey is loaded with player, team and league statistical reports. Customize data base reports using hundreds of available statistics. All of the standard statistics such as goals, assists, penalty minutes, and plus/minus are included.  The game also tracks hits, blocked shots, takeaways, giveaways, faceoffs, time on ice breakdowns, types of penalties, and much more. You can view raw statistics or stats based on game averages, home or road averages, high games and more.

       Top of page

      Player Ratings

      Player ratings are based on every available published statistic, as well as expert subjective analysis.  Player ratings include overall offensive ability, passing, inside and outside scoring, skating, penalty shot/breakaway ability, faceoffs, overall defensive ability, takeaways, shot blocking, hitting, penalty killing, enforcer status, goalie ability, sportsmanship, and durability.

       Top of page

      Play By Play

      Extensive and exiting play by play makes playing a hockey game an immersive experience.  Thousands of lines of text may also be edited by the user.

       Top of page

      Schedules and Transactions

      Seasons include full real life schedules. Schedules may be modified or automatically generated. Player transactions are monitored by date, so you can replay a season using the actual trades and signings as they occurred in real life.

       Top of page

      Internet Play

      Action! PC Hockey offers complete support for internet play. Hook-up and play one game or an entire series in one sitting. Zip and email league files with just a few mouse clicks. Email box scores to league members with one mouse click.

       Top of page

      Utilities

      Action! PC Hockey includes a useful set of utilities to run any face-to-face, email, or internet league. Export/import games, export/import coaches and many other features help make your league play simple and enjoyable.

       Top of page

      Past Seasons/Historical Adjustments

      Many past seasons are available for purchase. These include pro, Olympic, and college seasons. The staff at Dave Koch Sports is continually adding to the lineup of available past seasons. Action PC Hockey includes complete league data for every past season, allowing the game engine to make comparisons between players from different eras. This makes it possible to play a game between a team from the 1960s and a team from the 1990s, for example. Leagues can also be set to play in any era. For example, it is possible to put modern teams in the high scoring era of the 1980s.

      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 12:55 PM
      Subject: Re: [hockeydisk] Re: anyone?

       

      Thanks, Jeff. I'm sure we'll get some other opinions too, as others get the game. Good insights. Things are sounding pretty reasonable so far.....

      Jeff Shaffer wrote:

       

      Good questions.
       
      I think Dave Koch will be better able to answer these questions than me, but I'd be glad to help as I can.  I'm not a tester.  I enjoy doing season replays on my own and coaching head-to-head online with friends.  Doing online leagues would be fun, I've just never tried it with APBA. 
      I was into Quest Hockey, but poor Joe is just one guy. 
      And now we have Action PC!
       
      From the game, under the internet tab, it has:
       
      Host Game Session
      Join Game Session
      Disconnect
      Find my ip address
      Open windows Firewall port 1450
      Forward port 1450 - router
      Service updates
      Search for hockey seasons
      Visit dksports.com
      League address book
      Create website
       
      Under league address book, it has:
      League members.... name, email
      Status box:  League Statistician box, Send automatic game reports box.
      Add member, delete member.  League name.
      Cancel, Save changes.
       
      So, from here it would appear you can setup an internet league, do a draft league, and stuff.
      Under the organize section, it has a "Draft" heading with Draft Players, Modify Draft order, and Modify General Managers.
       
      I can post more details soon.  I sent a big email that didn't go through this morning.  I do another one soon...
      Jeff
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       


      --- On Mon, 5/31/10, Dave Bole <pensnr1fan@verizon. net> wrote:

      From: Dave Bole <pensnr1fan@verizon. net>
      Subject: Re: [hockeydisk] Re: anyone?
      To: hockeydisk@yahoogro ups.com
      Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 10:50 AM

       
      
      and are their going tobe just the league files for
      each year and not a whole new game we need ?
       
      DAVE
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 10:38 AM
      Subject: Re : [hockeydisk] Re: anyone?

       
      Can we do like APBA and only the commish need the game to sim and all other GM just need a utility to make their lines ? or if everybody need to buy the game ?
      Thanks
       
      Sylvain Dallaire
      www.lhat-naha. net
      Phoenix Coyotes & Commish (NAHA)
      Coyotes de Phoenix (LHAT) 
      Coyotes de Phoenix (LAHS)




      De : Jeff Shaffer <minworkout15jeffs@ yahoo.com>
      À : hockeydisk@yahoogro ups.com
      Envoyé le : Lun 31 mai 2010, 10h 16min 02s
      Objet : Re: [hockeydisk] Re: anyone? [1 Attachment]

       
      I have Action PC Hockey and I played an online game last night with a friend of mine.  He coached the Blackhawks and I coached the Penguins, this year's teams.  I attached a .txt file with the game's boxscore.
       
      The game has a great flow to it with lot's of coaching options.  To see screen shots check out their website:
       
      I'll post more comments soon.
      Jeff
       

      --- On Sun, 5/30/10, D. Atkinson <boomhound@gmail. com> wrote:

      From: D. Atkinson <boomhound@gmail. com>
      Subject: Re: [hockeydisk] Re: anyone?
      To: hockeydisk@yahoogro ups.com
      Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 10:35 PM

       
      Thanks...appreciate it. I don't think one review based on a couple games played will bias the whole community. I'll need to hear at least 10 reviews, and probably play the game myself, before I can make a judgement. But your input will be appreciated, and we'll see if we can get a consensus on this thing.

            d

      northattleboroguy wrote:
       
      Just bought it and downloaded it. Only played a period so jury is still out. However, from the one period I played, I didnt really get a good feeling. What I feared about not having the flow of the game is what I experienced. But, I dont want to prejudice anyone against the game based on my one period of play. In the next day or so I'll play more and let you all know.

      --- In hockeydisk@yahoogro ups.com, "D. Atkinson" <boomhound@.. .> wrote:
      >
      > Anyone out there have this yet?
      >
      > http://www.dksports .com/hockey. htm
      >
      > I'm interested in hearing a review.
      >
      > d
      >







    • Jeff Shaffer
      I understand what you re saying about a user having too much control. However, with Action PC I don t think it would result in skewing stats way off.   The
      Message 2 of 3 , May 31, 2010
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        I understand what you're saying about a user having too much control.
        However, with Action PC I don't think it would result in skewing stats way off.
         
        The way it work is a player will have the puck and you get a few choices.  You can have the player take a shot, or you can double click on the other players on the ice to try to get a pass to one of them.  The screen shows stars indicating how open they are to receive the pass.  Or, you can click a button to let the pc decide what to do.
         
        If you don't like too much control, you can let the computer run it.  Oh, and you can do pc vs pc games. 
         
        I like making the on-ice decisions, but it will not really skew stats in my opinion because a certain player is not open all the time.  You cannot just always feed it to a certain player, and even when that player is open the opponents can intercept the pass or the passer will make a bad pass.
         
        This really is a great hockey game.  It's the best on the market right now, by far, in my opinion.  I'm not a tester and don't work for Dave.  I'm just a hockey fan that's always enjoyed the script-based sports games and I think this game rocks.
         
        Action PC releases new versions of all their games every year.  This is great because every year their games continue to get better.  There was a question about having to buy a whole new game each year.  You don't have to buy an upgrade if you don't want to, but buying an upgrade is much cheaper than buying the game from scratch.
         
        There are already 14 seasons out and there will be more released on a regular basis.
         
        There are alot of coaching decision to make.  You are not just sitting there switching lines and reading script.  There's a lot more strategy decisions and options than APBA.
         
        Rinks... in the forum there is a rinks section:
        I loaded in the United Center for the game last night, and the game supports team logos, too.  We had the right team logos on the screen.  You can even add player photos.  Eventually goal horns will be in there.
         
        I would recommend buying the game, which comes with this year's teams, and just try it out.  Set it up the way you like it, put rink and team logo graphics in there, and see what you think.  It's a download, so you can buy it and play it today.
         
        Jeff
         
         


        --- On Mon, 5/31/10, D. Atkinson <boomhound@...> wrote:

        From: D. Atkinson <boomhound@...>
        Subject: Re: [hockeydisk] an excerpt from the home page.
        To: hockeydisk@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 1:25 PM

         
        The part in all of this that bothers me (almost all of it sounds really good) is:

        Individual players also have usage preferences that may be set including how often to pass or shoot from different ice locations

        Many a game has crashed and burned in the past by allowing TOO MUCH player control. This typically leads to having the "star" shoot as much as possible, skewing all results. I remember playing with the hockey game from Lance Haffner in the early 90s (when the Pens were good) and one could just make Lemieux shoot 25 times a game and almost never lose. And putting fatigue controls on players that are shooting too much, making them ineffective late in the game because they took too many shots earlier, is somewhat unrealistic. This part will be interesting to see.....too much player control leads to issues with gameplay and realism.

                 d

        Dave Bole wrote:
         
        
        This basically breaks down what we ( APBA ) players
        are asking....  Other than the questions about season
        disk and buying and entire packaged game every year.
         
         

        Strategies

        Action PC Hockey includes a wealth of strategy options. Strategies include forecheckers used, defensive zone aggressiveness and depth, offensive zone entry method, and offensive zone system. Strategies may be set for the team as a whole, as well as for specific line combinations and game situations. A programmable computer coach is also available for each team including line usage, offensive and defensive styles, late game strategy adjustments, and preferences for when to change or pull goalies. Individual players also have usage preferences that may be set including how often to pass or shoot from different ice locations, how often to attempt to deflect shots, join in odd man rushes, and attempt to penetrate past defenders. To help in understanding the influence each strategy has on the game, an in depth strategy guide is available free from this site.

         Top of page

        League/Roster Management

        A complete set of general manager functions makes it easy to operate your league. Create, modify, draft and trade players and teams. Design depth charts and set line combinations with all stats and ratings easily available. Save up to five complete sets of line combinations for each team. Create and assign ice graphics, team logos, and player photos. Customize league rules including roster limits, overtime and shootout rules, penalties, suspensions, player usage rules, icing and offsides rules, and many miscellaneous rules such as video review of goals and automatic TV timeouts.

         Top of page

        Statistics and Reports

        Action! PC Hockey is loaded with player, team and league statistical reports. Customize data base reports using hundreds of available statistics. All of the standard statistics such as goals, assists, penalty minutes, and plus/minus are included.  The game also tracks hits, blocked shots, takeaways, giveaways, faceoffs, time on ice breakdowns, types of penalties, and much more. You can view raw statistics or stats based on game averages, home or road averages, high games and more.

         Top of page

        Player Ratings

        Player ratings are based on every available published statistic, as well as expert subjective analysis.  Player ratings include overall offensive ability, passing, inside and outside scoring, skating, penalty shot/breakaway ability, faceoffs, overall defensive ability, takeaways, shot blocking, hitting, penalty killing, enforcer status, goalie ability, sportsmanship, and durability.

         Top of page

        Play By Play

        Extensive and exiting play by play makes playing a hockey game an immersive experience.  Thousands of lines of text may also be edited by the user.

         Top of page

        Schedules and Transactions

        Seasons include full real life schedules. Schedules may be modified or automatically generated. Player transactions are monitored by date, so you can replay a season using the actual trades and signings as they occurred in real life.

         Top of page

        Internet Play

        Action! PC Hockey offers complete support for internet play. Hook-up and play one game or an entire series in one sitting. Zip and email league files with just a few mouse clicks. Email box scores to league members with one mouse click.

         Top of page

        Utilities

        Action! PC Hockey includes a useful set of utilities to run any face-to-face, email, or internet league. Export/import games, export/import coaches and many other features help make your league play simple and enjoyable.

         Top of page

        Past Seasons/Historical Adjustments

        Many past seasons are available for purchase. These include pro, Olympic, and college seasons. The staff at Dave Koch Sports is continually adding to the lineup of available past seasons. Action PC Hockey includes complete league data for every past season, allowing the game engine to make comparisons between players from different eras. This makes it possible to play a game between a team from the 1960s and a team from the 1990s, for example. Leagues can also be set to play in any era. For example, it is possible to put modern teams in the high scoring era of the 1980s.

        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 12:55 PM
        Subject: Re: [hockeydisk] Re: anyone?

         
        Thanks, Jeff. I'm sure we'll get some other opinions too, as others get the game. Good insights. Things are sounding pretty reasonable so far.....

        Jeff Shaffer wrote:
         
        Good questions.
         
        I think Dave Koch will be better able to answer these questions than me, but I'd be glad to help as I can.  I'm not a tester.  I enjoy doing season replays on my own and coaching head-to-head online with friends.  Doing online leagues would be fun, I've just never tried it with APBA. 
        I was into Quest Hockey, but poor Joe is just one guy. 
        And now we have Action PC!
         
        From the game, under the internet tab, it has:
         
        Host Game Session
        Join Game Session
        Disconnect
        Find my ip address
        Open windows Firewall port 1450
        Forward port 1450 - router
        Service updates
        Search for hockey seasons
        Visit dksports.com
        League address book
        Create website
         
        Under league address book, it has:
        League members.... name, email
        Status box:  League Statistician box, Send automatic game reports box.
        Add member, delete member.  League name.
        Cancel, Save changes.
         
        So, from here it would appear you can setup an internet league, do a draft league, and stuff.
        Under the organize section, it has a "Draft" heading with Draft Players, Modify Draft order, and Modify General Managers.
         
        I can post more details soon.  I sent a big email that didn't go through this morning.  I do another one soon...
        Jeff
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
         


        --- On Mon, 5/31/10, Dave Bole <pensnr1fan@verizon. net> wrote:

        From: Dave Bole <pensnr1fan@verizon. net>
        Subject: Re: [hockeydisk] Re: anyone?
        To: hockeydisk@yahoogro ups.com
        Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 10:50 AM

         
        
        and are their going tobe just the league files for
        each year and not a whole new game we need ?
         
        DAVE
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 10:38 AM
        Subject: Re : [hockeydisk] Re: anyone?

         
        Can we do like APBA and only the commish need the game to sim and all other GM just need a utility to make their lines ? or if everybody need to buy the game ?
        Thanks
         
        Sylvain Dallaire
        www.lhat-naha. net
        Phoenix Coyotes & Commish (NAHA)
        Coyotes de Phoenix (LHAT) 
        Coyotes de Phoenix (LAHS)




        De : Jeff Shaffer <minworkout15jeffs@ yahoo.com>
        À : hockeydisk@yahoogro ups.com
        Envoyé le : Lun 31 mai 2010, 10h 16min 02s
        Objet : Re: [hockeydisk] Re: anyone? [1 Attachment]

         
        I have Action PC Hockey and I played an online game last night with a friend of mine.  He coached the Blackhawks and I coached the Penguins, this year's teams.  I attached a .txt file with the game's boxscore.
         
        The game has a great flow to it with lot's of coaching options.  To see screen shots check out their website:
         
        I'll post more comments soon.
        Jeff
         

        --- On Sun, 5/30/10, D. Atkinson <boomhound@gmail. com> wrote:

        From: D. Atkinson <boomhound@gmail. com>
        Subject: Re: [hockeydisk] Re: anyone?
        To: hockeydisk@yahoogro ups.com
        Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 10:35 PM

         
        Thanks...appreciate it. I don't think one review based on a couple games played will bias the whole community. I'll need to hear at least 10 reviews, and probably play the game myself, before I can make a judgement. But your input will be appreciated, and we'll see if we can get a consensus on this thing.

              d

        northattleboroguy wrote:
         
        Just bought it and downloaded it. Only played a period so jury is still out. However, from the one period I played, I didnt really get a good feeling. What I feared about not having the flow of the game is what I experienced. But, I dont want to prejudice anyone against the game based on my one period of play. In the next day or so I'll play more and let you all know.

        --- In hockeydisk@yahoogro ups.com, "D. Atkinson" <boomhound@.. .> wrote:
        >
        > Anyone out there have this yet?
        >
        > http://www.dksports .com/hockey. htm
        >
        > I'm interested in hearing a review.
        >
        > d
        >








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