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SHOT BLOCKING AND GAME FATIGUE INCREASES

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  • bokasmo1
    Hey all, Last year I proposed a increasing ALL the ratings from 1-5 to 1-9. Yeah, that was me!? Anyways, we didn t do that in our league
    Message 1 of 11 , Apr 10, 2002
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      Hey all,

      Last year I proposed a increasing ALL the ratings from 1-5 to 1-9.

      Yeah, that was me!?

      Anyways, we didn't do that in our league
      (http://www.geocities.com/todbolt17/), but we have incorporated
      increasing the Shot Blocking ability of ALL players thru the league
      with EXCELLENT results.

      The chart we used was the following :

      ***DMEN
      1.71+ 4rating
      1.30 to 1.7 3rating
      .8 to 1.3 2rating
      .3 to .69 1rating

      ***FORWARDS
      .7+ 3rating
      .4 to .69 2rating
      .2 to .39 1rating

      --->The above ratios are the players' NHL shot blocks divided by GP.
      Mins/game were not factored in to keep it simple.

      I can do a follow-up post and show anyone who is interested just how
      close the dmen & forwards (yes, forwards!) were compared to their NHL
      #'s.

      No other adverse effects look evident, except maybe a slight increase
      in injuries, due to APBA having alot of injuries based off of
      blocking shots; mostly by dmen.

      ********************************************************

      The 2nd thing is about increasing Game Fatigue for lower skilled
      players, especially goons and other prospect/journeymen types who
      only get 5 or 6 mins/game.

      APBA uses GMF to determine when a players skills begin to deterioate.
      There was talk before by others on this board about this, and am
      wondering if the disc makers will be utilizing an increase (or
      minimum for certain players).

      We will likely use the following :

      DMEN : minimum of 17GMF
      FORWARDS : minimum of 10GMF

      SAR Slayers GM,
      Owner of the E,
      Zach

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    • Derrick Underwood
      I never liked the idea anyways!! :-). But it never hurts to float
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        <<Last year I proposed a increasing ALL the ratings from 1-5 to 1-9.

        Yeah, that was me!?>>

        I never liked the idea anyways!! :-). But it never hurts to float ideas...

        << Shot Blocking >>

        I like the idea, but I have a concern about the number of shots that made it
        to the goaltender. What were your top SOG guys, and how many SOG/gp were
        they at? Did you have any surprise stats leaders or under performers.
        Where goaltenders GAA and Save % relatively accurate to NHL performance?

        <<The 2nd thing is about increasing Game Fatigue for lower skilled
        players, especially goons and other prospect/journeymen types who
        only get 5 or 6 mins/game.>>

        My perception of what this disk is supposed to do is give us a
        representation of the performance of players in the NHL season. If we
        artificially inflate any of the stats, we are not representing the actual.
        If Domi played 9.5 minutes per game, I don't want him to be playing 16
        minutes of unfatigued play in any apba game. I don't accept the argument
        that he could have played more, because that is dealing with his potential,
        not his performance.

        In addition, the increased GF will skew the results terribly. All the
        ratings are based on performance per minute played. If you take those
        minutes and increase them, we will either have to deflate his performance
        ratings to keep his stats per minute accurate, or we will have to accept
        that lesser players become more important than they should be. I don't see
        either of these alternatives as acceptable.


        my 2 cents...

        Derrick
      • Derrick Underwood
        a little fyi.... My NHL stats will be available on Wednesday. I want to make sure the league makes all the stats official before we start working with them. I
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          a little fyi....

          My NHL stats will be available on Wednesday. I want to make sure the league
          makes all the stats official before we start working with them. I will post
          a web location on this group for the files when they are ready.


          Derrick
        • bokasmo1
          Thanks Derrick for the response. About the raising GMF : I wasn t saying raising forwards to above 9mins. If Domi gets 9.5min/nhl, then he wouldn t move. Only
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            Thanks Derrick for the response.

            About the raising GMF : I wasn't saying raising forwards to above
            9mins. If Domi gets 9.5min/nhl, then he wouldn't move.

            Only forwards below 9mins, get raised to 9mins.
            Only dmen below 16mins, get raised to 16mins.

            Thats what I was saying.

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            Here are stats from the ESHL. You asked if there were surprise
            performers or under-achievers, and there probably were, although no
            one really stood out. There are over&under achievers every year in
            our league, even before we tweaked the Shot Blocking! :)

            INDIVIDUAL SCORING LEADERS (Top 10)

            TEAM SKATERS AvgM GP G A Pt +/- PIM PP SH GW GT S SHPCT
            MIN M.Lemieux 22.5 80 55 51 106 17 44 23 0 8 3 281 19.6
            HAL Sakic 23.1 82 47 58 105 33 54 9 0 10 3 309 15.2
            WAT Jagr 23.4 82 49 49 98 56 76 13 2 10 0 330 14.8
            WAT Fedorov 23.1 80 39 56 95 57 68 11 2 9 0 311 12.5
            SEA P.Kariya 22.8 78 40 49 89 40 28 11 5 8 1 226 17.7
            WAT Elias 21.8 82 37 50 87 49 110 10 0 8 1 236 15.7
            PHL Nedved 18.2 82 35 52 87 49 54 11 0 10 0 238 14.7
            DET Nieuwendyk 16.1 81 37 46 83 24 38 12 0 7 3 192 19.3
            WAS Lang 19.9 82 32 50 82 25 22 12 0 7 1 174 18.4
            THN Palffy 18.2 81 41 37 78 17 34 12 1 10 0 215 19.1

            DEFENCEMEN SCORING LEADERS (Top 10)
            TEAM SKATERS AvgM GP G A Pt +/- PIM PP SH GW GT S SHPCT
            MIN Leetch 23.3 82 23 46 69 28 34 2 0 7 0 181 12.7
            MAL Lidstrom 27.7 82 20 43 63 46 38 2 2 5 0 195 10.3
            DET Sydor 22.7 82 14 40 54 28 71 4 2 3 0 124 11.3
            SAR R.Blake 23.2 77 20 33 53 36 67 7 1 7 0 223 9.0
            PHL Desjardins 25.2 82 18 35 53 44 52 1 0 1 0 195 9.2
            THN Johansson 27.8 82 13 31 44 24 56 3 1 2 0 177 7.3
            DET McCabe 22.9 82 6 38 44 36 138 2 0 1 0 165 3.6
            WAS Schneider 23.5 79 12 29 41 16 50 6 0 1 1 169 7.1
            MAL Hamrlik 20.2 80 18 21 39 12 74 6 0 1 1 203 8.9
            WAS Bourque 23.8 80 10 29 39 23 44 3 0 1 0 172 5.8

            GOALTENDING RATING LEADERS (Top 5 -- min. 1640 minutes played)
            TEAM GOALIES GP MIN GAA W L T ENG SO GA SA SV% SA/GP
            RATE
            DET Ct.Joseph 72 4303 2.20 51 14 7 0 10 158 1700 0.907 23.7
            226.0
            PHL Nabokov 73 4361 1.91 46 16 8 3 17 139 1517 0.908 20.9
            222.6
            WAT Burke 73 4316 1.84 40 22 6 3 12 132 1606 0.918 22.3
            218.9
            CHI Hasek 73 4352 2.10 36 28 8 1 9 152 1744 0.913 24.0
            207.6
            CUB Giguere 71 4203 2.46 35 22 11 7 3 172 1940 0.911 27.7
            206.0

            GAA -- min. 1640 MINS SVPCT -- min. 1640 MINS SHUTOUTS
            TEAM PLAYER TOT TEAM PLAYER TOT TEAM PLAYER
            TOT
            MIN Turco 1.81 MIN Turco 0.923 PHL
            Nabokov 17
            MAL Shields 1.82 WAT Burke 0.918 WAT
            Burke 12
            DAL Vokoun 1.82 DAL Vokoun 0.917 DAL
            Vokoun 11
            WAT Burke 1.84 OAK Mrt.Biron 0.917 DET
            Ct.Joseph 10
            PHL Nabokov 1.91 CHI Hasek 0.913 PHX
            Irbe 10
            WAS Cechmanek 1.93 CUB Giguere 0.911 GRN
            Turek 10
            SEA Belfour 2.08 CIN Dunham 0.911 VAN
            Lalime 9
            CHI Hasek 2.10 ACH McLennan 0.911 CHI
            Hasek 9
            EDM T.Salo 2.13 MAL Shields 0.911 THN
            P.Roy 9
            MIN Brodeur 2.14 PHL Nabokov 0.908 SEA
            Belfour 9

            TOP +/- BOTTOM +/- SHOTS
            TEAM PLAYER GP TOT TEAM PLAYER GP TOT TEAM
            PLAYER GP TOT
            WAT Fedorov 80 57 WCT Heward 81 -44 DET
            Fleury 77 333
            WAT Jagr 82 56 ACH Finley 77 -44 MAL
            Young 82 331
            PHL Straka 82 52 WCT Tenkrat 81 -43 WAT
            Jagr 82 330
            WAT Elias 82 49 WCT Kharitonov 77 -41 THN
            Axelsson 82 321
            PHL Nedved 82 49 ACH Green 82 -40 WAT
            Fedorov 80 311
            MAL Walker 82 49 BOS Zednik 82 -40 HAL
            Sakic 82 309
            MIN McEachern 82 48 ACH Strudwick 80 -40 EDM
            R.Smyth 82 308
            MAL Lidstrom 82 46 ACH Vasiljevs 81 -37 CHI
            Amonte 82 294
            PHL Desjardins 82 44 NWO Regehr 80 -37 NYK
            Bondra 80 288
            PHL S.Stevens 82 42 SEA Slegr 79 -37 PHL
            Naslund 80 287

            HITS B. SHOTS
            TEAM PLAYER GP TOT TEAM PLAYER GP TOT
            WAT Roenick 81 265 THN Johansson 82 164
            EDM Forsberg 76 254 GEO Skrastins 81 157
            EDM R.Smyth 82 253 PHX Matvichuk 82 153
            SAR Shanahan 81 248 ELP Bombardir 65 150
            EDM Pronger 73 237 VAN Kuba 81 150
            CIN Konowalchuk 82 234 MAL Weinrich 82 148
            BOS O'Neill 82 231 ELP Popovic 72 142
            GRN Roberts 82 229 KCG Pushor 79 138
            PHL K.Tkachuk 82 228 MIN Leetch 82 138
            WAT Jovanovski 74 221 STL C.White 82 132
            ----------------------------->Forwards not listed because dmen do the
            most blocking

            ***WHAT OTHER STATS WOULD U WANT TO LOOK AT?
          • Jeff Kraus
            Well, to look at it from a different perspective.... If I have a d-man who only played 12 mins. per game, chances are I don t WANT him playing 16 MPG! :-) A
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              Well, to look at it from a different perspective....

              If I have a d-man who only played 12 mins. per game, chances are I don't WANT him playing 16 MPG!  :-)  A guy that low on the pole isn't going to be hurt much by the GF, because he won't have much to lose.

              We made an arbitrary decision a few years ago to raise all the goons to a minimum of 5:00 GF, but didn't address d-men because I can't think of a single one who was under 15:00 until the last wave of expansion.  I might be pursuaded to support a min. 15:00 GF for d-men, but like I said, it's not likely to have much effect.  They're not the type of player the game engine will overuse when everyone's tired.

              Jeff
               
              ----- Original Message -----
              From: bokasmo1
              Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:42 PM
              To: hockeydisk@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: [hockeydisk] Re: SHOT BLOCKING AND GAME FATIGUE INCREASES
               
              Thanks Derrick for the response.

              About the raising GMF : I wasn't saying raising forwards to above
              9mins. If Domi gets 9.5min/nhl, then he wouldn't move.

              Only forwards below 9mins, get raised to 9mins.
              Only dmen below 16mins, get raised to 16mins.

              Thats what I was saying.

              --------------------------------------------

              Here are stats from the ESHL. You asked if there were surprise
              performers or under-achievers, and there probably were, although no
              one really stood out. There are over&under achievers every year in
              our league, even before we tweaked the Shot Blocking! :)

              INDIVIDUAL SCORING LEADERS (Top 10)

              TEAM SKATERS       AvgM GP  G  A Pt +/- PIM PP SH GW GT   S SHPCT
              MIN  M.Lemieux     22.5 80 55 51 106  17  44 23  0  8  3 281  19.6
              HAL  Sakic         23.1 82 47 58 105  33  54  9  0 10  3 309  15.2
              WAT  Jagr          23.4 82 49 49 98  56  76 13  2 10  0 330  14.8
              WAT  Fedorov       23.1 80 39 56 95  57  68 11  2  9  0 311  12.5
              SEA  P.Kariya      22.8 78 40 49 89  40  28 11  5  8  1 226  17.7
              WAT  Elias         21.8 82 37 50 87  49 110 10  0  8  1 236  15.7
              PHL  Nedved        18.2 82 35 52 87  49  54 11  0 10  0 238  14.7
              DET  Nieuwendyk    16.1 81 37 46 83  24  38 12  0  7  3 192  19.3
              WAS  Lang          19.9 82 32 50 82  25  22 12  0  7  1 174  18.4
              THN  Palffy        18.2 81 41 37 78  17  34 12  1 10  0 215  19.1

              DEFENCEMEN SCORING LEADERS (Top 10)
              TEAM SKATERS       AvgM GP  G  A Pt +/- PIM PP SH GW GT   S SHPCT
              MIN  Leetch        23.3 82 23 46 69  28  34  2  0  7  0 181  12.7
              MAL  Lidstrom      27.7 82 20 43 63  46  38  2  2  5  0 195  10.3
              DET  Sydor         22.7 82 14 40 54  28  71  4  2  3  0 124  11.3
              SAR  R.Blake       23.2 77 20 33 53  36  67  7  1  7  0 223   9.0
              PHL  Desjardins    25.2 82 18 35 53  44  52  1  0  1  0 195   9.2
              THN  Johansson     27.8 82 13 31 44  24  56  3  1  2  0 177   7.3
              DET  McCabe        22.9 82  6 38 44  36 138  2  0  1  0 165   3.6
              WAS  Schneider     23.5 79 12 29 41  16  50  6  0  1  1 169   7.1
              MAL  Hamrlik       20.2 80 18 21 39  12  74  6  0  1  1 203   8.9
              WAS  Bourque       23.8 80 10 29 39  23  44  3  0  1  0 172   5.8

              GOALTENDING RATING LEADERS (Top 5 -- min. 1640 minutes played)
              TEAM GOALIES       GP  MIN  GAA  W  L  T ENG SO  GA   SA   SV% SA/GP
              RATE
              DET  Ct.Joseph     72 4303 2.20 51 14  7   0 10 158 1700  0.907 23.7
              226.0
              PHL  Nabokov       73 4361 1.91 46 16  8   3 17 139 1517  0.908 20.9
              222.6
              WAT  Burke         73 4316 1.84 40 22  6   3 12 132 1606  0.918 22.3
              218.9
              CHI  Hasek         73 4352 2.10 36 28  8   1  9 152 1744  0.913 24.0
              207.6
              CUB  Giguere       71 4203 2.46 35 22 11   7  3 172 1940  0.911 27.7
              206.0

                GAA -- min. 1640 MINS   SVPCT -- min. 1640 MINS         SHUTOUTS
              TEAM PLAYER         TOT TEAM PLAYER         TOT   TEAM PLAYER
              TOT
              MIN  Turco         1.81 MIN  Turco         0.923   PHL
              Nabokov        17
              MAL  Shields       1.82 WAT  Burke         0.918   WAT
              Burke          12
              DAL  Vokoun        1.82 DAL  Vokoun        0.917   DAL
              Vokoun         11
              WAT  Burke         1.84 OAK  Mrt.Biron     0.917   DET
              Ct.Joseph      10
              PHL  Nabokov       1.91 CHI  Hasek         0.913   PHX
              Irbe           10
              WAS  Cechmanek     1.93 CUB  Giguere       0.911   GRN
              Turek          10
              SEA  Belfour       2.08 CIN  Dunham        0.911   VAN
              Lalime          9
              CHI  Hasek         2.10 ACH  McLennan      0.911   CHI
              Hasek           9
              EDM  T.Salo        2.13 MAL  Shields       0.911   THN
              P.Roy           9
              MIN  Brodeur       2.14 PHL  Nabokov       0.908   SEA
              Belfour         9

                       TOP +/-                   BOTTOM +/-                   SHOTS
              TEAM PLAYER        GP TOT TEAM PLAYER        GP TOT TEAM
              PLAYER        GP TOT
              WAT  Fedorov       80  57 WCT  Heward        81 -44 DET
              Fleury        77 333
              WAT  Jagr          82  56 ACH  Finley        77 -44 MAL
              Young         82 331
              PHL  Straka        82  52 WCT  Tenkrat       81 -43 WAT
              Jagr          82 330
              WAT  Elias         82  49 WCT  Kharitonov    77 -41 THN
              Axelsson      82 321
              PHL  Nedved        82  49 ACH  Green         82 -40 WAT
              Fedorov       80 311
              MAL  Walker        82  49 BOS  Zednik        82 -40 HAL
              Sakic         82 309
              MIN  McEachern     82  48 ACH  Strudwick     80 -40 EDM
              R.Smyth       82 308
              MAL  Lidstrom      82  46 ACH  Vasiljevs     81 -37 CHI
              Amonte        82 294
              PHL  Desjardins    82  44 NWO  Regehr        80 -37 NYK
              Bondra        80 288
              PHL  S.Stevens     82  42 SEA  Slegr         79 -37 PHL
              Naslund       80 287

                          HITS                    B. SHOTS
              TEAM PLAYER        GP TOT TEAM PLAYER        GP TOT
              WAT  Roenick       81 265 THN  Johansson     82 164
              EDM  Forsberg      76 254 GEO  Skrastins     81 157
              EDM  R.Smyth       82 253 PHX  Matvichuk     82 153
              SAR  Shanahan      81 248 ELP  Bombardir     65 150
              EDM  Pronger       73 237 VAN  Kuba          81 150
              CIN  Konowalchuk   82 234 MAL  Weinrich      82 148
              BOS  O'Neill       82 231 ELP  Popovic       72 142
              GRN  Roberts       82 229 KCG  Pushor        79 138
              PHL  K.Tkachuk     82 228 MIN  Leetch        82 138
              WAT  Jovanovski    74 221 STL  C.White       82 132
              ----------------------------->Forwards not listed because dmen do the
              most blocking

              ***WHAT OTHER STATS WOULD U WANT TO LOOK AT?



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            • bokasmo1
              Jeff and all others, The reason I d like the increase is for teams who basically stink; expansion teams in our league. They bomb out in the 3rd periods,
              Message 6 of 11 , Apr 17, 2002
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                Jeff and all others,

                The reason I'd like the increase is for teams who basically stink;
                expansion teams in our league.

                They bomb out in the 3rd periods, because their guys are ALL in
                fatigue. They actually have scrubs with low game fatigues, and
                injuries to their fragile lineup also forces these guys in.

                I'm talking mostly for players under 12gp who we get rated and can be
                used by teams.

                It also would be great if you guys rated those under 12nhl gp!

                Later,
                Zach

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              • Frankie Wong
                I dunno if I would agree to the idea of increasing ratings for expansion purposes. If a league forsees such problem and would like it to be corrected, they
                Message 7 of 11 , Apr 17, 2002
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                  I dunno if I would agree to the idea of increasing ratings for expansion
                  purposes. If a league forsees such problem and would like it to be
                  corrected, they should take the initiative to do so, such as allowing
                  more valuable players to be exposed in the expansion draft, rather than
                  by having these players' ratings increased.



                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: bokasmo1 [mailto:bokasmo1@...]
                  Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 9:09 PM
                  To: hockeydisk@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: [hockeydisk] Re: SHOT BLOCKING AND GAME FATIGUE INCREASES


                  Jeff and all others,

                  The reason I'd like the increase is for teams who basically stink;
                  expansion teams in our league.

                  They bomb out in the 3rd periods, because their guys are ALL in
                  fatigue. They actually have scrubs with low game fatigues, and
                  injuries to their fragile lineup also forces these guys in.

                  I'm talking mostly for players under 12gp who we get rated and can be
                  used by teams.

                  It also would be great if you guys rated those under 12nhl gp!

                  Later,
                  Zach

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                • Jeff Kraus
                  Zach, If it s something that would benefit your league, why not just adjust the GF to suit your needs? As you ve seen on the board, there are at least a few
                  Message 8 of 11 , Apr 17, 2002
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                    Zach,
                    If it's something that would benefit your league, why not just adjust the GF to suit your needs?  As you've seen on the board, there are at least a few leagues that modify some of the ratings to suit their taste, whatever the reason might be.
                     
                    Same for the under 12 GP guys - you can just create cards & ratings for the additional players on your league's disk.  I wouldn't mind adding a few of those guys, particularly "name" players who wouldn't be on the disk (Calle Johansson / 11 GP comes to mind). But in the past the vast majority have made it clear they don't want the low-use "freak" cards (particularly those leagues that rely on APBA's injury factor to keep the usage down) so we've stuck to the old APBA guideline of 12 GP for skater, 6 for goalie, with only two or three exceptions.
                     
                    The main fear, aside from the freak stats, is it's hard enough to get dependable ratings for guys who played only 15 or 20 games.  That's why I suggested injured "name" players rather than rookies who came up in the final month and scored a few goals, but from what we can tell very few people really want them included.
                     
                    Jeff
                     
                     
                    ----- Original Message -----
                    From: bokasmo1
                    Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 12:13 AM
                    To: hockeydisk@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: [hockeydisk] Re: SHOT BLOCKING AND GAME FATIGUE INCREASES
                     
                    Jeff and all others,

                    The reason I'd like the increase is for teams who basically stink;
                    expansion teams in our league.

                    They bomb out in the 3rd periods, because their guys are ALL in
                    fatigue. They actually have scrubs with low game fatigues, and
                    injuries to their fragile lineup also forces these guys in.

                    I'm talking mostly for players under 12gp who we get rated and can be
                    used by teams.

                    It also would be great if you guys rated those under 12nhl gp!

                    Later,
                    Zach

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                  • Daniel Robitaille
                    ... didn t APBA rated more players at one point in time. I remember Kent Nilsson being rated with 6 GP. Or that was only because of the strike-shortened NHL
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                      > Same for the under 12 GP guys - you can just create cards & ratings for the
                      > additional players on your league's disk. I wouldn't mind adding a few of
                      > those guys, particularly "name" players who wouldn't be on the disk (Calle
                      > Johansson / 11 GP comes to mind). But in the past the vast majority have
                      > made it clear they don't want the low-use "freak" cards (particularly those
                      > leagues that rely on APBA's injury factor to keep the usage down) so we've
                      > stuck to the old APBA guideline of 12 GP for skater, 6 for goalie, with
                      > only two or three exceptions.

                      didn't APBA rated more players at one point in time. I remember
                      Kent Nilsson being rated with 6 GP. Or that was only because of the
                      strike-shortened NHL season?


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                    • bokasmo1
                      Jeff, We ve used the under 12gp guys for 14 years now :) I m just petition the disc makers to do it, so I don t have to do the dirty work :) Thanks for all
                      Message 10 of 11 , Apr 18, 2002
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                        Jeff,

                        We've used the under 12gp guys for 14 years now :)

                        I'm just petition the disc makers to do it, so I don't have to do the
                        dirty work :)

                        Thanks for all your advice and input.

                        Zach

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                        P.S. I'd be glad to share the disc with the under 12gp guys included
                        (when I finish it) if anyone wants it.

                        contact me at : zachtower@...
                      • D. Atkinson
                        ... There have been requests this year for all kinds of disk adjustments, block ratings, phy ratings, low GP players, etc. At this point, I think the project
                        Message 11 of 11 , May 10, 2002
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                          bokasmo1 wrote:

                          > Hey all,
                          >
                          > Last year I proposed a increasing ALL the ratings from 1-5 to 1-9.
                          >
                          > Yeah, that was me!?
                          >
                          > Anyways, we didn't do that in our league
                          > (http://www.geocities.com/todbolt17/), but we have incorporated
                          > increasing the Shot Blocking ability of ALL players thru the league
                          > with EXCELLENT results.
                          >
                          > The chart we used was the following :
                          >
                          > ***DMEN
                          > 1.71+ 4rating
                          > 1.30 to 1.7 3rating
                          > .8 to 1.3 2rating
                          > .3 to .69 1rating
                          >
                          > ***FORWARDS
                          > .7+ 3rating
                          > .4 to .69 2rating
                          > .2 to .39 1rating
                          >
                          > --->The above ratios are the players' NHL shot blocks divided by GP.
                          > Mins/game were not factored in to keep it simple.
                          >
                          > I can do a follow-up post and show anyone who is interested just how
                          > close the dmen & forwards (yes, forwards!) were compared to their NHL
                          > #'s.
                          >
                          > No other adverse effects look evident, except maybe a slight increase
                          > in injuries, due to APBA having alot of injuries based off of
                          > blocking shots; mostly by dmen.

                          There have been requests this year for all kinds of disk adjustments, block
                          ratings,
                          phy ratings, low GP players, etc.
                          At this point, I think the project needs to maintain consistency in the
                          product. Since
                          some of the requests were mutually exclusive of each other, the project should

                          avoid jumping to wants of a few and issue a disk consistent with past years.
                          Those
                          leagues that would like to tweak their disk are welcome to do so, as always.
                          You
                          will have a product consistent with past years, so your tweaks should come
                          easy.

                          The only rating I see adjusting is the block ratings. More than likely, you
                          will see
                          more 2's and 1's than in the past. At this point, however, I don't see
                          isssuing
                          ratings of 6 or 7 on the block rating without a long full review of the
                          consequences.
                          We'll stick with our past successful format, and those that want to tweak will
                          know
                          what to expect.

                          Dave
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