interesting conversation, between two "black" immigrants...
- Subject: [Ta_Seti] Re: African-American
> Great article and study. I would just like to say so,ething to youand their parents, this is your home. I dont plan
> though. I am an African, I am from Sudan. I moved here was around 11
> or 12, I am now 26. Before I came here I cound not reed or write. I
> had only been to a school a few times. I have fought and seen more
> death in one day than many of you will your whole lifes. I
> understand that America was founded on some bad principals, but you
> have came along way since then, we still have slavery in my country
> as you have seen. America is a good place to live and learn freely,
> knowledge depends on access to it. This country has great
> educational opportubities and medicine, although it can be
> expensive, you have it here. I dont think that Black people in
> Amereica are displaced, you were born here, and so were your parents
> and their parents
> on ever returning to Africa, I couldnt bare to see some of those
> things again, I dont think I could hold up. If you dont like
> America, there is plenty of room over in Africa, I know some of my
> distant family would love to trade places with any of you, they
> would rather live on the streets here than in a home in Sudan. Only
> those who are thankful have something to be thankful for. Thats why
> people have so much here, but in they minds they feel they have
> nothing. You are blessed to even be able to write these things
> freely and unhibited, I honestly knew some who have died for less.
>In Ta_Seti@yahoogroups.com, Imnrnnre <anpugifts@e...> wrote:
> Greetings Aaron,janitor.
> I'm glad you appreciated my comments. I too am an
> immigrant who came to the U.S. as a teenager, in my
> case, at fifteen. I too am greatly appreciative of the
> economic opportunities and political freedoms I now
> enjoy. The situation in my country of origin, Panama,
> was/is very different from that which you experienced
> in the Sudan. I did not witness anything like the deaths
> you described until Vietnam, a country also racked by civil
> When we arrived here, my father was denied the right to open a
> business because he was Black. He ended up taking a job as a
> That after spending most of his adult life as a teacher andentrepreneur.
> And when we searched for a place to live, there were large partsof the city
> (Middletown, Ohio) that were offlimits to us. The school Iattended was
> not completely segregated by race, but the White and the Blackkids
> (then called Negroes) were not allowed to socialize except insecret.
> This was not completely new to us. My family had similar
> on the Panama Canal Zone to which this country's racism hadexperiences.
> been exported right down to the segregated bathrooms, school-
> houses, restaurants, swimming pools, jobs, payscales and so on.
> So, you see, my views are the products of actual personal
> Despite these limitations, I too have managed to acheive incan enjoy the freedoms you
> ways that would have been extremely difficult in my country
> of origin.
> But, let me say something to you as a fellow Black immigrant.
> Never forget the horrendous sacrifices that Africans in this
> country have made so that you
> now have. You have been here but a short time of 14 years.immigrate
> You know little of the struggle for liberation from racism that you
> have not seen on TV or read in books -- which for some people
> would be sufficient with diligent study.
> So never imply that 300 years of degradation, brutality, and
> segregation are just in the minds people here, or worse that
> they are a figment of people's imaginations which they stupidly
> refuse to let go. Doing so demeans them. The effects
> of slavery, Jim Crow racism and segregation are everywhere
> still evident in this country for those who care to notice them.
> If I were you, I would find ways of contributing to the struggle
> instead of saying, as you have, If you don't like it here,
> to Africa. It comes close to the canard we have heard for years
> which is "If you don't like it here go back to Africa." I know,
> didn't use those exact words, but I've been here long enough to
> smell a skunk when I see one, even if it's dressed like a rabbit.
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