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  • mlamick
    Hi Bill, About casting on using circular needle rather than double points, I don t think that s an option. You re starting out with only 8 sts, and I think dps
    Message 1 of 10 , Jan 11, 2008
      Hi Bill,

      About casting on using circular needle rather than double points, I don't think that's an
      option. You're starting out with only 8 sts, and I think dps (or 2 circs) are the only way to
      get 8 sts into a ring/circle. The start is going to be a bit wobbly and fumbly, and you may
      have to try it several times before you're happy. I started my project using an i-cord of 8
      stitches (scrap yarn) so I'd have something to hold on to and some stitches to start knitting
      into rather that using a traditional cast on. I made a short length of icord, maybe an inch,
      using dps, then started knitting with my main yarn. On the first row of stitches with my
      main yarn, I ran a life line. After I had knitted a few rows of the pattern, I then removed
      the icord, put a needle on the end of the main yarn, and ran that yarn through the
      beginning 8 stitches (twice around is probably better), pulled the yarn tight to close the
      ring of stitches, then fastened off the yarn.

      I found a very similar method a couple days ago on the internet that someone called the
      "belly button" start. She had nice photos, also, so do a Google search and check out that
      method as well.

      And another note in regard to the suggestion to use the Craftown pattern - that's a good
      suggestion. However, there is more than one version of the Craftown pattern! The one at
      the website is not the same as the one in our Files database. Use the one in Files in this
      group. After you knit enough rows that you can use the "definitive" chart, compare the
      chart and the Craftown pattern as you go, and any subsequent errors should be readily
      apparent.

      Marilyn





      --- In hemlockringkal@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Dineen" <WJBDineen@...> wrote:
    • WJBDineen
      Jenny, THANK YOU! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!! That is just the kind of advice I was hoping might come out of the post. Headed to my KTog now! Bill Dineen Sent
      Message 2 of 10 , Jan 11, 2008
        Jenny, 

        THANK YOU! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!!  That is just the kind of advice I was hoping might come out of the post.

        Headed to my KTog now!

        Bill Dineen

        Sent remotely from my iPhone. Responses may be brief.

        On Jan 11, 2008, at 11:43, Jenny Massey <emjayknits@...> wrote:

        OK - my "sage advice"
         
        USE THE CRAFTTOWN PATTERN. 
         
        Put in Stitchmarkers - Be religious about these.  It will make your life 10 million trillion times easier
         
        Count, Count, Count - If you don't have a stitch count by repeat or by row, do the math - it really helps.  You'll know sooner rather than later if you are off track.
         
        TINK, don't rip.  Unless you are at the beginning.  Ripping this can be really dangerous due to the yarn overs and decreases. 
         
        Row 35 gets everyone!  Be careful.  It is correct on the Crafttown pattern.
        *YO, K1, YO, Sl1, K2tog, psso, YO, K4, YO, Sl1, K2tog, psso, YO, K1, YO, K1, Sl1, K2tog, psso, K1; Repeat from *
         
        There is an error in the Crafttown pattern on Row 97
        The correct pattern for Row 97 is: (YO, K1) 10x, K1, (SL, K, PSSO) 8x, (K2tog) 8x, K2, (YO, K1) 10X
        I did my both blankets on one circulars.  So the center can be done that way, if you know magic loop.  WAY EASY.  I have interchangable needles and was able to change out wire sizes that way, but I eventually went all the way up to 60" circulars.
         
        If things just seem to be going bad - Do the math, and if your math is correct, then have a friend read the pattern to you stitch by stitch.  (they don't have to know knit-speak - just be able to say k1, k2tog etc...).  Believe it or not, this really saved me on row 37 or somewhere around in that area.  I tinked that row about 5 times before I asked a friend to do that and it came out PERFECT!  Reward your friend with many thanks and treats - especially if this is near the end or used often. 
         
        This is a big project.  Enjoy it - take your time.  And truth be told, its not terribly complicated.  But, when you come to a complicated section. Don't be afraid to tell people to shut up or to leave you along.  Or to be nice, take yourself away from people when possible.
         
        Jenny's Motto "Knitting is fun!  The only tension should be in the yarn."


        ----- Original Message ----
        From: Jeri B <soapquiltknit@ gmail.com>
        To: hemlockringkal@ yahoogroups. com
        Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:35:02 AM
        Subject: Re: [hemlockringkal] Casting On!

        My preference would be to share suggestions and comments with the group.  I'm sure many would like to know what Bill wants to know. 
         
        And good luck on your start, Bill.  Be sure and keep us informed.
         
        Jeri
        www.soapquiltknit. blogspot. com
         
         


         



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      • Michelle & Ken Balmert
        I too am getting ready to cast on! I m going to do the KAL with the WEBS (www.yarn.com) website. They are doing it on their podcast starting next weekend I
        Message 3 of 10 , Jan 11, 2008

          I too am getting ready to cast on!  I’m going to do the KAL with the WEBS (www.yarn.com) website.  They are doing it on their podcast starting next weekend I think.  I have my yarn and ordered some harmony wood tips for my options for it! Getting anxious to start!

           

          Bill I know what you mean by the sleeplessness of starting! I always dream/think about a new project when getting ready to start a project..this one has been on my mind!!

           

          Yay! Thanks for the awesome charts and tips everyone!

           

          Michelle in Ohio

          www.funwithquilting.typepad.com

           

          From: hemlockringkal@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hemlockringkal@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Dineen
          Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:52 AM
          To: hemlockringkal@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [hemlockringkal] Casting On!

           

          Hello Gang...

          Okay, the sleeplessness has to end. I am absolutely obsessed with
          this project. I have to cast on TODAY! It's the only way to
          survive this.

          I have printed off the doily pattern and the ULTIMATE chart from
          this group (awesome chart, btw!).

          What do I need to know?
          What should I be reading, doing, etc...
          I really want this to be an awesome blanket and I welcome all of
          your sage advise based on your experiences. I have never done
          anything with dpns and am a little nervous but am going to a very
          helpful KTog tonight so I am sure I will have help for the cast on.
          Have others used circulars in stead of the dpns for the initial
          portion of this?

          If you would prefer to not clog the Yahoo!Group with repetitive e-
          mails, feel free to e-mail me your suggestions and comments directly
          to WJBDineen@...

          Many thanks!

          Knit On, Brothers! Knit On, Sisters!!

          Bill

        • Janice Cox
          how do you get the craftown pattern? ... From: hemlockringkal@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hemlockringkal@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jenny Massey Sent: Friday,
          Message 4 of 10 , Jan 11, 2008
            how do you get the craftown pattern?
            -----Original Message-----
            From: hemlockringkal@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hemlockringkal@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jenny Massey
            Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:43 AM
            To: hemlockringkal@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [hemlockringkal] Casting On!

            OK - my "sage advice"
             
            USE THE CRAFTTOWN PATTERN. 
             
            Put in Stitchmarkers - Be religious about these.  It will make your life 10 million trillion times easier
             
            Count, Count, Count - If you don't have a stitch count by repeat or by row, do the math - it really helps.  You'll know sooner rather than later if you are off track.
             
            TINK, don't rip.  Unless you are at the beginning.  Ripping this can be really dangerous due to the yarn overs and decreases. 
             
            Row 35 gets everyone!  Be careful.  It is correct on the Crafttown pattern.
            *YO, K1, YO, Sl1, K2tog, psso, YO, K4, YO, Sl1, K2tog, psso, YO, K1, YO, K1, Sl1, K2tog, psso, K1; Repeat from *
             
            There is an error in the Crafttown pattern on Row 97
            The correct pattern for Row 97 is: (YO, K1) 10x, K1, (SL, K, PSSO) 8x, (K2tog) 8x, K2, (YO, K1) 10X
            I did my both blankets on one circulars.  So the center can be done that way, if you know magic loop.  WAY EASY.  I have interchangable needles and was able to change out wire sizes that way, but I eventually went all the way up to 60" circulars.
             
            If things just seem to be going bad - Do the math, and if your math is correct, then have a friend read the pattern to you stitch by stitch.  (they don't have to know knit-speak - just be able to say k1, k2tog etc...).  Believe it or not, this really saved me on row 37 or somewhere around in that area.  I tinked that row about 5 times before I asked a friend to do that and it came out PERFECT!  Reward your friend with many thanks and treats - especially if this is near the end or used often. 
             
            This is a big project.  Enjoy it - take your time.  And truth be told, its not terribly complicated.  But, when you come to a complicated section. Don't be afraid to tell people to shut up or to leave you along.  Or to be nice, take yourself away from people when possible.
             
            Jenny's Motto "Knitting is fun!  The only tension should be in the yarn."


            ----- Original Message ----
            From: Jeri B <soapquiltknit@ gmail.com>
            To: hemlockringkal@ yahoogroups. com
            Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:35:02 AM
            Subject: Re: [hemlockringkal] Casting On!

            My preference would be to share suggestions and comments with the group.  I'm sure many would like to know what Bill wants to know. 
             
            And good luck on your start, Bill.  Be sure and keep us informed.
             
            Jeri
             
             


             



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          • WJBDineen@aol.com
            Marilyn, THANK YOU for your e-mail.? I am very intrigued by your cast on method.? It sounds wonderful!? I really appreciate that you took the time to respond
            Message 5 of 10 , Jan 12, 2008
              Marilyn,
               
              THANK YOU for your e-mail.  I am very intrigued by your cast on method.  It sounds wonderful! 
               
              I really appreciate that you took the time to respond to my request.
               
              Many thnaks,
               
              Bill Dineen


              -----Original Message-----
              From: mlamick <marilyn@...>
              To: hemlockringkal@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 3:04 pm
              Subject: [hemlockringkal] Re: Casting On!

              Hi Bill,

              About casting on using circular needle rather than double points, I don't think that's an
              option. You're starting out with only 8 sts, and I think dps (or 2 circs) are the only way to
              get 8 sts into a ring/circle. The start is going to be a bit wobbly and fumbly, and you may
              have to try it several times before you're happy. I started my project using an i-cord of 8
              stitches (scrap yarn) so I'd have something to hold on to and some stitches to start knitting
              into rather that using a traditional cast on. I made a short length of icord, maybe an inch,
              using dps, then started knitting with my main yarn. On the first row of stitches with my
              main yarn, I ran a life line. After I had knitted a few rows of the pattern, I then removed
              the icord, put a needle on the end of the main yarn, and ran that yarn through the
              beginning 8 stitches (twice around is probably better), pulled the yarn tight to close the
              ring of stitches, then fastened off the yarn.

              I found a very similar method a couple days ago on the internet that someone called the
              "belly button" start. She had nice photos, also, so do a Google search and check out that
              method as well.

              And another note in regard to the suggestion to use the Craftown pattern - that's a good
              suggestion. However, there is more than one version of the Craftown pattern! The one at
              the website is not the same as the one in our Files database. Use the one in Files in this
              group. After you knit enough rows that you can use the "definitive" chart, compare the
              chart and the Craftown pattern as you go, and any subsequent errors should be readily
              apparent.

              Marilyn

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            • Jenny Massey
              It should be in the files section of the yahoo group. If not, let me know and I think I have it on my puter. Jenny s Motto Knitting is fun! The only tension
              Message 6 of 10 , Jan 12, 2008
                It should be in the files section of the yahoo group.  If not, let me know and I think I have it on my puter.
                 
                Jenny's Motto "Knitting is fun!  The only tension should be in the yarn."


                ----- Original Message ----
                From: Janice Cox <Coxconsulting@...>
                To: hemlockringkal@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:44:00 PM
                Subject: RE: [hemlockringkal] Casting On!

                how do you get the craftown pattern?
                -----Original Message-----
                From: hemlockringkal@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:hemlockring kal@yahoogroups. com]On Behalf Of Jenny Massey
                Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:43 AM
                To: hemlockringkal@ yahoogroups. com
                Subject: Re: [hemlockringkal] Casting On!

                OK - my "sage advice"
                 
                USE THE CRAFTTOWN PATTERN. 
                 
                Put in Stitchmarkers - Be religious about these.  It will make your life 10 million trillion times easier
                 
                Count, Count, Count - If you don't have a stitch count by repeat or by row, do the math - it really helps.  You'll know sooner rather than later if you are off track.
                 
                TINK, don't rip.  Unless you are at the beginning.  Ripping this can be really dangerous due to the yarn overs and decreases. 
                 
                Row 35 gets everyone!  Be careful.  It is correct on the Crafttown pattern.
                *YO, K1, YO, Sl1, K2tog, psso, YO, K4, YO, Sl1, K2tog, psso, YO, K1, YO, K1, Sl1, K2tog, psso, K1; Repeat from *
                 
                There is an error in the Crafttown pattern on Row 97
                The correct pattern for Row 97 is: (YO, K1) 10x, K1, (SL, K, PSSO) 8x, (K2tog) 8x, K2, (YO, K1) 10X
                I did my both blankets on one circulars.  So the center can be done that way, if you know magic loop.  WAY EASY.  I have interchangable needles and was able to change out wire sizes that way, but I eventually went all the way up to 60" circulars.
                 
                If things just seem to be going bad - Do the math, and if your math is correct, then have a friend read the pattern to you stitch by stitch.  (they don't have to know knit-speak - just be able to say k1, k2tog etc...).  Believe it or not, this really saved me on row 37 or somewhere around in that area.  I tinked that row about 5 times before I asked a friend to do that and it came out PERFECT!  Reward your friend with many thanks and treats - especially if this is near the end or used often. 
                 
                This is a big project.  Enjoy it - take your time.  And truth be told, its not terribly complicated.  But, when you come to a complicated section. Don't be afraid to tell people to shut up or to leave you along.  Or to be nice, take yourself away from people when possible.
                 
                Jenny's Motto "Knitting is fun!  The only tension should be in the yarn."


                ----- Original Message ----
                From: Jeri B <soapquiltknit@ gmail.com>
                To: hemlockringkal@ yahoogroups. com
                Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:35:02 AM
                Subject: Re: [hemlockringkal] Casting On!

                My preference would be to share suggestions and comments with the group.  I'm sure many would like to know what Bill wants to know. 
                 
                And good luck on your start, Bill.  Be sure and keep us informed.
                 
                Jeri
                 
                 


                 



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