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- Dec 22, 2018I have read sections of it. Nineteenth century texts tend to be a bit longwinded.
Not a big deal, but worth the read. Collected Works, Volume 1.
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Oh Ok - my misunderstanding. I wonder how I got to it though! Also as Wikipedia says it was unpublished in his lifetime! So double fault, as they say in tennis. :-)SrivatsSrivats,
Marx's Doctoral thesis was on "The Difference Between the Democritean and Epicurean Philosophy of Nature".Will
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JohnYour comments on Marx are both insightful and weird!But more factually, are you saying that Marx wanted to write a commentary beyond his critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Law- which was his doctoral thesis?SrivatsHello Bruce,To some extent it would be good to maintain a distinction between metaphysics and religion. Certainly Thomas Aquinas and others of his time attempted to bring them together. But, essentially, metaphysics has to do with ancient Greek philosophy and religion, in Hegel's context, has to do with Christianity.At any rate, the metaphysical nature of the SL is quite obvious--beyond question.. So perhaps this is simply a book that you have no desire to engage with.And religion is quite central to the Phenomenology of Spirit. Certainly it is quite possible to engage with the Phenomenology of Spirit without dealing with religion, as the book has so much else in it as well. But, again, I take it that you have no interest in engaging in this work, even in a very partial way such as with Westphal.So you could indeed read his Philosophy of Right. I always say that if this was the only book we had from Hegel, Hegel would still have a place, albeit minor, in the history of philosophy.The Philosophy of Right does deal with religion to some extent. It sees the state as the sublation of religion--very much as Marx does. Marx is quoted as demanding the abolition of religion. But this expression from his introduction to his never-written commentary on the Philosophy of Right should rather, of course, be translated as the sublation of religion. So all the fine ideals that we learn in religion should, as far as possible, be made real in the state. But if you do away with religion, if you abolish religion, then you lose all its lovely ideals and you end up with the rude and obnoxious college professor who imagines himself to be of a superior race compared to working people--someone who will bring "justice" to the members of the working class by completely subjecting them to every caprice of this supposed superior race. He even imagines that we will feel honored to vote for him!John--R Srivatsan
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