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- Dec 17, 2018Yes. Mine of today is a gloss on this.StephenFrom: hegel@yahoogroups.com <hegel@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of eupraxis@... [hegel] <hegel@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 14 December 2018 00:20
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Subject: Re: [hegel] perceptionNeed I remind us that the "meta-", a title used by a later editor of the Peripatetic school, meant the book "after" the physics, not any realm above, beyond or below.
Will
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From: Paul Trejo petrejo@... [hegel] <hegel@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Thu, Dec 13, 2018 3:34 pm
Subject: Re: [hegel] perception
Stephen T.,Aristotle's definition of Metaphysics as "the science of Being qua Being," immediately demands clarification.Some scholars regard 'Being qua Being" as a single topic. Others make a finer distinction, saying that Aristotle will study "Being," indeed, yet "in the special manner of Being." Many find it unclear.Metaphysics is not like the Natural Sciences, which also study beings in a world of Physics. How is studying Being "in the manner of" Being, different? Aristotle helps by defining Metaphysics in slightly different ways, i.e. as First Philosophy, and Wisdom and Theology.In Metaphysics Book Α, he says, “all men suppose what is called Wisdom to deal with the First Causes and the Principles of things.” This is helpful. We get more clues from Book Β, where Aristotle lists some puzzles that he will tackle in his Metaphysics.
1. Are sense-data Substances the only ones that exist?2. Are kinds or individuals the most basic principles of beings?3. If kinds, is it the most generic or the most specific kinds?4. Is there any Cause apart from matter?5. Is there anything apart from compounds of matter?6. Are Principles limited in number or in kind?7. Are Principles perishable?8. Are Principles universal or particular?9. Are Principles potential or actual?10. Are mathematical objects Substances (as Pythagoras held)?11. If so, are they always associated with sense-data objects?12. Are Unity and Being the Substance of things, or mere attributes?This is not Physics. Nor do these questions belong to Natural Science. Nor do they belong to formal Logic. These Metaphysical questions address a realm beyond Physics -- a realm beyond the five senses.All best,--Paul---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------On Thursday, December 13, 2018, 6:20:05 AM CST, stephen theron stephentheron@... [hegel] <hegel@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Or, you can say with Aristotle that metaphysics is "the science of being qua being", i.e. not specifically of that being which Aquinas (or also Aristotle? I rather doubt) declares natural to the human mind, changeable being understood as that knowable via, in the sense of itself "sensible", the senses.We can if we wish apply that to Hegel's metaphysics also inasmuch as true being emerges as, is declared to be, the Idea. I think this is compatible with what Paul says.General and special metaphysics I recall seeing used in neo-scholastic manuals to distinguish the science of being qua being from natural theology specifically, a distinction quite impossible, I think we would finally find, without contradicting what John wrote, to apply to Hegel's system.Stephen Theron.From: hegel@yahoogroups.com <hegel@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Paul Trejo petrejo@... [hegel] <hegel@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 11 December 2018 19:54
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Subject: Re: [hegel] perception -- general and special metaphysics...The science of the Metaphysical, therefore, is a willingness to consider -- scientifically -- all those factors that the five senses and Natural Science could never even PERCEIVE. It is beyond Perception.What are these objects? They are not new or rare -- they were explored by Socrates and developed brilliantly by Plato, long before Aristotle came around with this new science of Metaphysics (which is his word).Hegel does not mean anything new by Metaphysics -- except to say that Kant surely pushed Aristotle into the mud -- but Hegel proposed to revive Metaphysics by using the Dialectical Logic that he obtained from Kant -- and purified from the Empirical bias of Kant's Epistemology...All best,--Paul - << Previous post in topic Next post in topic >>