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43334Re: [hegel] metaphysics

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  • stephen theron
    Dec 17, 2018
      One might rather say reason thinks the absolute but precisely not as an object and that that is rational. Meaning by reason not ratio (limited?) but intellectus (necessarily infinite and the infinite: the condition for truth in the mind, the truh or otherwise, for example, of your "reason is limit thinking", given that this can be understood ).

      Stephen Theron.


      From: hegel@yahoogroups.com <hegel@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Alan Ponikvar' ponikvaraj@... [hegel] <hegel@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: 13 December 2018 19:13
      To: hegel@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [hegel] metaphysics
       
       

      Hegel rescues reason by showing how reason abides contradiction.

       

      This is nonmetaphysical because reason does not break through its own limits to think the absolute as if it were some metaphysical object.

       

      Instead, reason is limit thinking.

       

      For Hegel, as with Kant, the illusion – metaphysical in nature - is to believe that there is something thinkably absolute beyond the limit.

       

      The speculative truth of the matter is that what is thinkably absolute is reason at its own limits.

       

      • Alan

       

      From: hegel@yahoogroups.com <hegel@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 12:53 PM
      To: hegel@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [hegel] metaphysics

       

       

      Hello Bruce,

       

      Oddly enough I learned about this division of metaphysics into general metaphysics (which deals with the categories and is the function of the understanding or finite thought) and special metaphysics (which deals with the three Ideas and is the function of reason or infinite thought) from Heidegger (somewhere or another in one of the 20 sets of his lectures that I read).

       

      This distinction applies immediately to Kant's first critique. The first part deals with the categories as determining the understanding (determining its ability to engage with objects outside itself). And the second part, of course, deals with reason which deals with the three ideas (each of which, and the three together, forms a whole).

       

      Kant, of course, denied the possibility of reason--and hence of special metaphysics. To know the whole is simply not a possibility for him. Trying to do so leads to contradictions.

       

      Hegel, then, tries to rescue reason, knowledge of the whole in its three forms, from Kant's attack.

       

      So both Kant and Hegel deal with the categories, with general metaphysics--what Pippin correctly calls transcendental logic because the object is transcendental to us or outside us.

       

      But Hegel tries to rescue special metaphysics or reason. Pippin seems to have no knowledge of this at all.

       

      John

       

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