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43253Re: [hegel] Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit Perception # 126

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  • bill.hord
    Dec 10, 2018

      Probably varies.


      Bill

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      Subject: Re: [hegel] Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit Perception # 126
       
      How much gibberish can one stand?!

      Joe


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      Subject: Re: [hegel] Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit Perception # 126

      Bob, is consciousness something? Is your consciousness something?

      Is a sunset that seems red a thing that appears red to consciousness? Is there a scientific explanation for this appearing-red-thing? Isn't this appearing red a property of the singular red sunset, namely that it can appear red to some?

      "Ideality can be called the quality of the infinite; but it is essentially the process of becoming, and hence a transition – like the transition of becoming into existence. We must now explicate this transition. This immanent turning back, as the sublating of finitude – that is, of finitude as such and equally of the negative finitude that only stands opposite to it, is only negative finitude – is self-reference, being. Since there is negation in this being, the latter is existence; but, further, since the negation is essentially negation of the negation, self-referring negation, it is the existence that carries the name of being-for-itself." (SL, di Giovanni, 120)

      "First, being-for-itself is immediately an existent-for-itself, the one. 
      Second, the one passes over into a multiplicity of ones – repulsion or the otherness of the one which sublates itself into its ideality, attraction.
      Third, we have the alternating determination of repulsion and attraction in which the two sink into a state of equilibrium; and quality, driven to a head in being-for-itself, passes over into quantity." (SL, di Giovanni, 126)

      Reading sublation where you have negation works miracles.

      As a moment of the whole, any finite existence reflects (true) infinity and is for itself with other beings.

      Bill

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      Dear Group,
       
      A way that we can recognize what a thing is, is through consciousness.  That is, consciousness is a necessary condition for recognizing things.  Consciousness structures the thing.  The thing thus takes on its own conceived form and is subject to the imperfections of what things appear to be, but are not what they seem.  Consciousness thus exercises an experience, a being for itself.  This is an absolute negation, overcoming itself; that is, to have, in this cognitive sense, its essence in another.  The point is that since being for itself negates all other being, it negates its own self, simply because it is in the mode of negation, and that its own essence is to be found in the determinations of other things. This indicates that no determinate being is just for itself, but is dependent upon the characteristics of other beings.


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      Bob Fanelli
       


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