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43153Re: [hegel] Some thoughts on Jean Wahl

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  • stephen theron
    Nov 27, 2018
      Thanks. I mean simply ch. 7, c, of Phenomenology of Mind.

      Have had an accident, can't write for the moment.

      Stephen

      From: hegel@yahoogroups.com <hegel@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Paul Trejo petrejo@... [hegel] <hegel@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: 24 November 2018 12:21
      To: hegel@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [hegel] Some thoughts on Jean Wahl
       
       

      In response to the Wed21Nov2018 by Stephen Theron:

      > Paul,
      What is "IIRC"? 

      Well, Stephen, IIRC is a modern acronym for "If I Recall Correctly."   

      The question of "miracles" is a big one in itself, for Christians. 
      > It seems to follow from Hegel's logic that there would not be any,
      > strictly speaking.

      Yes, Stephen, and I see this as the influence of Paulus, Herder and their Rationalist School of Theology upon Hegel.  They worked very hard to explain away all the miracles, without exception.

      > Traditionally, they are explained as necessary "signs".   Also, it seems,
      >  to many and I think to me, to class the Resurrection under the head of
      > "miracle", like feeding the 5000 or walking on water, without more ado. 

      Well, Stephen, Hegel makes an exception with the Resurrection, just as the Apostle Paul makes an exception.   The Apostle Paul barely says two words about Jesus' earthly ministry of calling or healing.  Paul shares almost no details about the biography of Jesus.  For Paul, there is only one Great Event that matters for Jesus -- his Resurrection after Crucifixion.

      Some might ask Paul, "Why not speak about the other miracles?"  His implicit reply is, "Why should I -- the Resurrection after Crucifixion was the greatest miracle of them all -- and most important by far.

      Hegel, it seems to me, follows Paul along this path -- except that the Resurrection, for Hegel, is never a matter for historical study -- but belongs to the moment of Faith which philosophically breaks from Empirical data.  The Empty Tomb story seems to be mere polemic -- bantering with unbelievers, so to speak -- like the Guard at the Tomb.

      > On Hegel's account of time, anyhow, these questions are "outside
      > the concept", and he brings this out well I think in Phen. VIIc.
      > ...
      > Stephen Theron.

      Stephen, I cannot decipher your citation of Hegel, as, "Phen. VIIc."    Please explain. 

      We agree, I think, that the Resurrection of the Body (1 Cor 15:12-50) is a secondary term -- to give Empiricism a second chance.   It does not stand on its own with the Apostle Paul.

      To fully appreciate Hegel's Dialectical Theology, we must regard his Sitz Im Leben within the Rationalist School in German Theology 1790-1810.  Hegel surpassed them -- yet he also started with them.   They are important in Hegel studies.

      All best,
      --Paul 

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