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42986Re: [hegel] Hegel's Dash

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  • stephen theron
    Nov 8, 2018
      Well, you just need type in this title on Google, but I'll come back with the link.

      Stephen.

      From: hegel@yahoogroups.com <hegel@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Alan Ponikvar' ponikvaraj@... [hegel] <hegel@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: 07 November 2018 18:36
      To: hegel@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [hegel] Hegel's Dash
       
       

      If you are going to recommend an article that is online then you need to provide the link.

       

      From: hegel@yahoogroups.com <hegel@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 6:13 AM
      To: hegel@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [hegel] Hegel's Dash

       

       

      There is a new piece on the Internet by two young theologians at Boston College entitled "Must Catholics Hate Hegel?" I recommend it.

       

      Stephen Theron.


      From: hegel@yahoogroups.com <hegel@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Alan Ponikvar' ponikvaraj@... [hegel] <hegel@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: 07 November 2018 08:07
      To: hegel@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [hegel] Hegel's Dash

       

       

      Given that the god-concept does no work within the system it would have been strange if Hegel nonetheless thought that his philosophy was about god.

       

      If we want to see what a robust modern god-centered philosophy might look like we have the example of Schelling who unlike Hegel does not prevaricate when speaking about god.

       

      Hegel’s philosophy has all these trap doors that enable Hegel to escape from being tied to what a naïve reading of what he says might indicate he believes.

       

      The most common trap door is the one that gets him out from under what a representation of god might indicate to the naïve reader.

       

      He can rely on the fact that his more accomplished readers will understand that a represented truth is not truth proper.

       

      But here in this paragraph the trap door lets him escape while his acolyte speaks.

       

      In any case, Hegel does quite a bit of this suggesting that Hegel believed that prevaricating about god was necessary for his survival.

       

      We have long been aware of the simple survival technique of going to church and outwardly conforming to religious doctrine while inwardly being indifferent to all this.

       

      Hegel did not even do enough of this not to raise doubts about his piety. But with his philosophy he was much more careful.

       

      And given that as a phase of spirit there is a place for religion in his philosophy – just not the place the religious would like it to occupy – Hegel was able to lecture on religion and in this way say much in praise of religion without distorting the nontheological thrust of his thought.

       

      • Alan

       

      From: hegel@yahoogroups.com <hegel@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 7:37 PM
      To: hegel@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [hegel] Hegel's Dash

       

       

      That has been the way most of us read Hegel. It is the only way to get anywhere with his philosophical enterprise. It is the only way anyone with a modern mind can appreciate the project. It is the only way where freedom makes sense. Religion is not philosophy; it is philosophy's ape, as Nietzsche might have put it. Oh! I hope that wasn't too gay!

       

      Will

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      From: 'Alan Ponikvar' ponikvaraj@... [hegel] <hegel@yahoogroups.com>
      To: hegel <hegel@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Tue, Nov 6, 2018 7:29 pm
      Subject: RE: [hegel] Hegel's Dash

       

      With this quote from paragraph 564 we have a nice example of one of Hegel’s slights of hand.

       

      Hegel knows that this quote from one of his acolytes creates just the right impression.

       

      Hegel can endorse it knowing full well that he and his acolyte have differing conceptions of what the word “God” represents.

       

      Hegel can be seen as celebrating god in keeping with the demands of his time without actually doing so.

       

      For the acolyte, “God” means God..

       

      For Hegel, “God” means the absolute.

       

      If we replace in each instance “God” with “absolute” and know Hegel’s absolute as self-generating, then when Hegel says man’s knowledge of the absolute which proceeds to man’s self-knowledge in the absolute what Hegel is describing is how we generate the absolute within which we dwell.

       

      Moreover, this transition form knowledge of the absolute to self-knowledge within the absolute marks an alteration of the absolute from a substance to a self-generating subject.

       

      And the self-generating subject is man.

       

      Thus, Hegel’s acolyte has spoken a speculative truth the true meaning of which he is entirely ignorant.

       

      • Alan

       

      From: hegel@yahoogroups.com <hegel@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 2:33 PM
      To: hegel@yahoogroups..com
      Subject: [hegel] Hegel's Dash

       

       

      In response to the Tue06Nov2018 post by Will SInda:

       

      > ...Now, has anyone looked at "The Dash — The Other Side of Absolute Knowing", 

      > by Comay and Ruda (MIT 2018)?

      >

      > Will 

       

      Well, Glenn Magee had opened the 21st century by claiming that Hegel was never a philosopher at all, but merely a Mystic, in his book, Hegel and the Hermetic Tradition (2001)..  Well, we must admit that Hegel wrote the following:

       

      "God is God only so far as God knows God.  God's 

      Self-knowledge is, further, a self-consciousness in 

      man and man’s knowledge of God, which proceeds 

      to man’s self-knowledge in God."  (Hegel, 1830, 

      Encyclopedia §564)

       

      In his Philosophy of History (1830), Hegel concludes that world history is the process of God's own Self-actualization.  So, this started a trend in Hegel studies for the 21st century, it seems to me.

       

      This year, however, the pendulum returns...  With this new book,The Dash — The Other Side of Absolute Knowing (2018) by Rebecca Comay and Frank Ruda review Hegel's Speculative philosophy as a "rational kernel" aiming toward a legitimate science.

       

      They will uphold the thesis of Hegel's PhG -- that the Absolute Idea can only be attained in the Appearances, that is, in the humdrum of daily life.

       

      The concept of the "dash" is obtained from Hegel's own punctuation.  Hegel ends his PhG with a dash -- and then he begins his SL with a dash.  According to Comay and Ruda, the "dash" is Hegel's hesitation regarding the Absolute Idea -- but also an "acceleration."  

       

      The "dash" is therefore ambiguous -- it looks backward and forward at the same time.  Like the word, "cleave," a "dash" always rends asunder and also joins together.  It scatters in every direction. 

       

      The "dash," they aver, is a question mark against the claim that Hegel presents a System like an unstoppable locomotive of Progress.  Rather, we should grasp Hegel's Dialectic through its Negative -- with all the weakness and backsliding that goes with it.

       

      For Comay and Ruda, the postmodern literature (e.g. Althusser, Deleuze, Foucault) attacks Hegel's Reason as a Logomachy, and so fails to recognize the Dialectical nuances of Hegel's Reason, and his careful, sensitive attention to the Negative.  

       

      We wait and see -- as with Election Results -- what scholars will make of this balancing approach to Hegel in today's literature.

       

      All best,

      --Paul

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