- Apr 26, 2016
There is a common theme expressed by the theologically-minded.
“We are right and everyone else is sooo stupid that there is no real need to engage their objections to our reading. Polemics will do.”
And Chuck, you have found the perfect word to put matters in the best light. Yes, austere it is!
- Alan
From: hegel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hegel@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 6:34 PM
To: hegel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hegel] Master/Slave etcHello John,
"Wouldn't it be nice, though, if we were really interested in the elusive structure of the Phenomenology--or how the SL works--rather than all this completely brain-dean, completely ignorant "atheism"? And I really do have to put the word "atheism" in quotation marks--because it is sooo stupid that it can't really be taken seriously. If only these "atheists" had any real interest in Hegel."
I like the austerity of your accountant of the Lordship and Bondage section of the Phenomenology.
Best,
-"Chuck"On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 6:19 PM, 'Alan Ponikvar' ponikvaraj@... [hegel] <hegel@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Yes, and the cover in paperback is tan with blue letters that follow in a sequence to spell out first the author’s name and then the title.
All very interesting indeed.
It is too bad that some on this site insist on thinking not only about what is between the covers but also beyond the table of contents.
What is wrong with these people.
And why is one of the best if not the best account of the Phenomenology about all this “brain-dead” death of god stuff?
Who will save us from all this?
From: hegel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hegel@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 5:39 PM
To: hegel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [hegel] Master/Slave etcIt seems there are some posts about the Phenomenology?
The particularly interesting thing about the Self-consciousness chapter is that its structure is very clear.
So there is the untitled first section on life. Then there is the whole business about the master/slave. Then there is the stoic/sceptic/unhappy consciousness. So, to begin with, it is broken out in five parts.
But the master/slave thing can be further broken out into the desire for recognition/the fight to the death/the work of the slave. I don't think anyone imagines that the desire for recognition might lead to a fight to the death. And who would imagine that the fight to the death would result in the work of the slave transforming the world?
And the unhappy consciousness is in three parts.
So the structure is:
Life
desire for recognition
fight to the death
work of the slave
stoic
sceptic
unhappy consciousness 1
unhappy consciousness 2
unhappy consciousness 3.
One could show that the Consciousness section has this same structure. And the Observing Reason corresponds, at a higher level, to the Consciousness section, and with the same structure.
So then we get to parts 2 and 3 of the Reason chapter, followed by the Spirit chapter.
This, again, has the same structure as the Self-consciousness chapter.
Life corresponds to Pleasure and Necessity.
Desire for recognition corresponds to the Law of the Heart
fight to the death corresponds to Virtue and the Way of the World
work of the slave to the Spiritual Animal Kingdom
stoic to the Maker of Laws
Sceptic to the judge of laws
Unhappy consciousness 1 to Ethical Life
Unhappy Consciousness 2 to Culture
Unhappy Consciousness 3 to Morality.
Then there is the same correspondence with Natural Religion corresponding to the Consciousness section and Observing Reason and The Religion of Art corresponding, again, to the Self-consciousness chapter. This concludes, for instance, with the triad Epic, Drama, Comedy which correspond to Unhappy Consciousness 1, 2, and 3.
So then we have the final duality (after Consciousness/Self-consciousness and Observing Reason/ Reason parts 2 and 3 and Spirit). This is the duality of Revealed Religion/Absolute Knowing. Does that work?
At any rate, what the Introduction says is that, once things start, they always follow the same structure--over and over again--always.
Wouldn't it be nice, though, if we were really interested in the elusive structure of the Phenomenology--or how the SL works--rather than all this completely brain-dean, completely ignorant "atheism"? And I really do have to put the word "atheism" in quotation marks--because it is sooo stupid that it can't really be taken seriously. If only these "atheists" had any real interest in Hegel.
John
John
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