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1215Re: [hegel] needing to be outside Hegel to understand Hegel?

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  • Paul Trejo
    May 30, 2003
      Omar Lughod wrote:


      > I notice Paul, that you answer questions with
      > sarcastic questions, or with unjustified assertions.
      > I await such justifications ever so patiently.

      Your questions were sarcastic, Omar. Or did
      you not notice?

      > You have yet to answer:
      > 1) why an atheist cannot get religion right?
      > 2) what this other side is to which you, undoubtedly,
      > have access, and the atheist inevitably lacks.
      >
      > Omar

      I answered these questions well and often, Omar,
      but I'll do so again.

      1. An atheist cannot get religion right because
      of the *assumptions* that he brings to the debate.

      1.1. The principle assumption is that *there is no
      God* (and the corrollaries: if there was a God, it
      would be impossible to prove; if there was a God,
      it would be impossible to experience)

      1.2. These are assumptions. They are not proven,
      but the Atheist -- to be an Atheist -- cannot do
      without them.

      1.3. Another assumption of the Atheist is materialism,
      and this reduces God to a psychological 'illusion.'

      1.4. Like any materialist, or empiricist, the Atheist
      wishes to regard Religion only *objectively*. It is
      *other* people's Religion he will talk about (usually
      in derogatory terms, pace Nietzsche, Marx).

      1.5. The idea of a *subjective* experience of God
      the Atheist presumes -- unquestionably -- is merely
      an illusion (refraction of Capital, refraction of the
      infant's Father, etc.)

      2. The other-side of the two-sided question that
      Hegel and Hegelians have access to that Atheists
      do not is simply this -- God.

      2.1. The Atheist (especially the materialist) tends to
      regard God in dualist terms -- Either it is Idealist, Or it
      is Materialist, and No Middle Term. This is one-sided
      thinking (also it is a Marxist-Leninist dogma).

      2.2. While non-dialectical theologians have been known
      to be one-sided, the Hegelian approach to God is not
      idealist, and surely not materialist. It is the MIDDLE
      TERM, so to speak; the Middle Path; the Golden Mean.

      There is nothing very new in any of this, Omar. It is just
      that the Atheist mind is solidly closed to these age-old
      truths.

      Regards,
      --Paul Trejo
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