## [Hammock Camping] Re: 2nd Outing (tree distance)

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• ... Ralph, When you are in your hammock like that and try to make some slack in the ridgeline, you are basically trying to lift your body weight with or
Message 1 of 16 , Jun 27, 2005
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--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, Ralph Oborn <Ralph.oborn@g...>
wrote:

> Last weekend O was out with my scouts... While in my HH I reached up
> and tried to make some slack in the ridgeline, couldn't do it. It's is
> surprising the amount of tension that a HH ridgeline carries.
>
> Ralph
>

Ralph,

When you are in your hammock like that and try to make some slack in
the ridgeline, you are basically trying to lift your body weight with
or without a mechanical advantage, depending on a couple of angles.
One angle is the hammock sag angle and the other angle is the angle of
the suppension ropes. If you are using the backpacker Asym I think you
are trying to lift more than your weight when the angle of the
suppension ropes are less than 22 to 23 degrees (relative to the
horizon)... when the angle is around 30 degrees you are only trying to
lift a quarter of your body weight, so the amount of force changes
pretty fast.

Dave
• Yeah, I should ve run a statics analysis, And as Mike so delicately put it, that can be a lot of weight. I was just trying to get a feel for the stress on
Message 2 of 16 , Jun 27, 2005
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Yeah, I should've run a statics analysis,
And as Mike so delicately put it, that can be a lot of weight.
I was just trying to get a feel for the stress on Coy's caribiner

On 6/27/05, Dave Womble <dpwomble@...> wrote:
> --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, Ralph Oborn <Ralph.oborn@g...>
> wrote:
>
> > Last weekend O was out with my scouts... While in my HH I reached up
> > and tried to make some slack in the ridgeline, couldn't do it. It's is
> > surprising the amount of tension that a HH ridgeline carries.
> >
> > Ralph
> >
>
> Ralph,
>
> When you are in your hammock like that and try to make some slack in
> the ridgeline, you are basically trying to lift your body weight with
> or without a mechanical advantage, depending on a couple of angles.
> One angle is the hammock sag angle and the other angle is the angle of
> the suppension ropes. If you are using the backpacker Asym I think you
> are trying to lift more than your weight when the angle of the
> suppension ropes are less than 22 to 23 degrees (relative to the
> horizon)... when the angle is around 30 degrees you are only trying to
> lift a quarter of your body weight, so the amount of force changes
> pretty fast.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
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• Ralph, I use a cheapo line level on mine and it works great. I am always amazed how bad I am at eyeballing whether things are level. ... From: Ralph Oborn
Message 3 of 16 , Jun 27, 2005
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Ralph,
I use a cheapo line level on mine and it works great. I am always amazed how bad I am
at "eyeballing" whether things are level.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ralph Oborn
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] Re: 2nd Outing (tree distance)

You can move the staff from had to hand (as needed).
I'm considering putting a mason's line level on my ridgeline to help
me get the angles of the dangles about right.

Last weekend O was out with my scouts... While in my HH I reached up
and tried to make some slack in the ridgeline, couldn't do it. It's is
surprising the amount of tension that a HH ridgeline carries.

Ralph

On 6/27/05, hiking@... <hiking@...> wrote:
> Works if you use two poles, I use a staff. I'll have to find out what the
> distance is with a single staff, but I am getting the idea that around
> 12-13 feet is ideal.
>
> mike
>
>

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• And here I thought that was my own method! It works well with my Hennessy. Bruce W. (Black Wolfe) ... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by
Message 4 of 16 , Jun 27, 2005
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And here I thought that was my own method!

It works well with my Hennessy.

Bruce W. (Black Wolfe)

> I found the hiking pole method to be quite nice (forgot who suggested it).
> Standing between two trees extend both poles outward and that is a
> good distance.
> Scott

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• ... Great minds..... Ralph
Message 5 of 16 , Jun 27, 2005
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> Ralph,
> I use a cheapo line level on mine and it works great. I am always amazed
> at "eyeballing" whether things are level.

Great minds.....

Ralph
• I had occasion to need to swap out my fly on my Hennessy Hammock. First... I don t think I ever got either a timely reply or a reply that wasn t an
Message 6 of 16 , Jun 28, 2005
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I had occasion to need to swap out my fly on my Hennessy
Hammock.

First... I don't think I ever got either a timely reply or
a reply that wasn't an automatically generated one from any