[Hammock Camping] Re: Knot photos in group's photo album
- Any requests?
I am going to put up the taughtline hitch, again (I screwed the first
one up and deleted it). If you have a favorite wilderness knot you
would like to see, I will post the pictures.
- Rat said:
> Any requests?Put them somewhere that I don't have to create a yahoo id for and log
Oh, knots... I'm always interested in new knots, would love to see
Butterfly, truckie, bowline and figure 8 are about all I ever use,
plus my easy-tie variant on the Hennessy knot. But all of those on the
web in one place would be useful. I'll put my variant up on my web
pages tomorrow and post a link.
- People like you are what makes the internet such a cool and useful
place. Thanks for your work.
I don't have any particular requests, although if you posted the
butterfly knot (hitch wahtever) I would definitely refer to it.
Bill in Houston
--- In email@example.com, "Rat" <hogn8r2004@y...> wrote:
> Guilty as charged. I've been meaning to put up some more. Now maybe I
> have the motivation to get 'er done.
> Glad you liked them.
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "zippydooda" <zippydooda@y...>
> > Ya, it's nice work, isn't it? Hogn8r is a member here.
> > Bill in Houston
- --- In email@example.com, "zippydooda" <zippydooda@y...>
>Cool, I will post the Butterfly and the Taughtline hitch tomorrow
> People like you are what makes the internet such a cool and useful
> place. Thanks for your work.
> I don't have any particular requests, although if you posted the
> butterfly knot (hitch wahtever) I would definitely refer to it.
> Bill in Houston
(tonight for ya'll). I have never thought about putting them on my
website, I'm just learning how to do all that stuff, but that might be
kinda cool also.
Great photos! I would suggest making a folder just
for Knots in the photo album so they are easy to find.
requests.... timber hitch
See my progress (albeit slow) on my horseless carriage.
Signal Corps: -- http://www.civilwarsignal.org/
USMT -- http://www.unitedstatesmilitarytelegraph.org
I had seen you knot photos a while back but just now tried the
highwayman knot. I like it... holds much better than the clove hitch
with quick release that I had been using to hang stuff sacks to my
hammock suspension rope.
- Okay, a new collection, Knots by Rat,
Contains the following knots:
Bowline Sailors Way
butterfly Sailors Way
Figure 8 on a Bight
Tomorrow I will put up a Truckers Hitch and Timber Hitch.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Ted Wagner <trwagner1@y...>
> Great photos! I would suggest making a folder just
> for Knots in the photo album so they are easy to find.
> requests.... timber hitch
- More knots...
I posted more knots today.
Trucker's Hitch (with a knot variant)
I will clean up the others also (the originals) to make them easier to
I was looking at the Exploding Clove Hitch and tied it off. It
looked to me that for hammockers, that it would be applicable for
similar applications as the Bowline with a Slip Loop, or quick
release ( http://www.junglehammock.com/tips.php & Page Down about 3
times). But, I noticed that after the Exploding Clove Hitch is loaded
that it is much more difficult to untie. Am I missing something...
seems like either knot should have sufficient holding power for tarp
ridgelines or hammock suspension lines? Anyway, as you know, being
able to easily untie knots is important... sometimes the difference
between great gear and gear that is a piece of @#%& is whether or not
you can untie it from the trees in the morning <grin>.
--- In email@example.com, "Rat" <hogn8r2004@y...> wrote:
> More knots...
> I posted more knots today.
> Trucker's Hitch (with a knot variant)
> Timber Hitch
> Farmer's Hitch
> I will clean up the others also (the originals) to make them easier
Both the Exploding Clove hitch and the Slipped Bowline will work to
suspend a ridgeline or a Hammock. Although I wouldn't suspend my
Hammock with the Expl. Clove, it could work loose when the Hammock
isn't occupied. Then when you set/lay down in it it would dump you.
Both of these are difficult to untie when extremely loaded, like if
you are lying in the hammock for example. I just use the Expl. Clove
on my ridge line because it is quick and easy, and I think it is
easier to adjust the loop size before you cinch it down than the
Slipped Bowline. Plus it has double the holding power (double
hitched) than the Slipped Bowline. Of course you could always use a
Slipped Water Bowline to accomplish the same thing, but that would
be more difficult to tie and still be a beast to untie under a load.
I use the Expl. Clove on one end of my ridge line and a Trucker's
Hitch on the other. When I break camp I untie the Trucker's and
wimper the Expl. Clove, this way I never need to untie it under
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Dave Womble" <dpwomble@y...>
> I was looking at the Exploding Clove Hitch and tied it off. It
> looked to me that for hammockers, that it would be applicable for
> similar applications as the Bowline with a Slip Loop, or quick
> release ( http://www.junglehammock.com/tips.php & Page Down about
> times). But, I noticed that after the Exploding Clove Hitch isloaded
> that it is much more difficult to untie. Am I missingsomething...
> seems like either knot should have sufficient holding power fortarp
> ridgelines or hammock suspension lines? Anyway, as you know,being
> able to easily untie knots is important... sometimes thedifference
> between great gear and gear that is a piece of @#%& is whether ornot
> you can untie it from the trees in the morning <grin>.
- I also put up two more knots
The Driver's Hitch, a superior Trucker's Hitch, but still a Hitch.
and I rebuilt the Highwayman Hitch so it is easier to see and read.
P.S. If you see anything wrong with these knot instructions please let
me know. I have been known to mess 'em up in the past, JOAT usually
kept me in line tho. I just don't want some one to get hurt because I
put up bad knot info.
I've never had the Slipped Bowline give me any trouble on hammock
suspension line or my ridgeline. I use a home make Speer with low
friction, hollow braid poly line for the hammock suspension line and
it easily slips the knot when it is unloaded.
On my tarp ridgeline I use the Slipped Bowline for the first tree and
then use Ed Speers Four Wrap Method on the second, smaller tree,
finished off with 2 half hitches. The Four Wrap Method (or 2 or 3
wraps if the tree is larger) allows me to tie it while the line is
taut and is easy to untie, especially if you finish off the 2nd half
hitch with a slip loop.
Knots are kind of neat aren't they? You can't always use your
preferred knots and need backup plans. If I don't have enough line
for the Four Wrap Method I will use a Slipped Bowline for both tarp
ridgelines and then work the Taut Line Knots that I use to attach the
ridgeline to the tarp to get the tarp taut. The Four Wrap Method
comes in handy when the spacing between trees isn't much more than
the length of the tarp and in those cases I will use the Four Wrap
Method for both knots. (I guess I'm using somewhat of a logic diagram
for which knot to use in what condition.)
I am switching to the Highwayman Hitch to suspend some of my stuff
sacks to my hammock suspension line or tarp ridgeline. It holds
better than the Slip Clove Hitch I was using and I have more
confidence in it holding all night during high winds. Thanks for the
work you are doing.