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  • Rob
    ... ... about ... main ... ( ... added ... passed ... comfortable ... Jack, I will let you know early next week on my decision. I am
    Message 1 of 8 , Dec 29, 2004
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      --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "jack_tier" <jacktier@c...>
      wrote:
      >
      > --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <rebraswell@y...>
      wrote:
      > >
      > > --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "jack_tier"
      <jacktier@c...>
      > > wrote:
      > > >
      > > > --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <rebraswell@y...>
      > > wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > I am still seeking direction. I posted last week regarding
      > > > sleeping
      > > > > system and also have been reading lots and lots of post on
      > this
      > > > > site. Thusfar, this is the direction I am leaning. JRB have
      > a 3
      > > > > season set up (nest & quilt no sniveler). I am thinking
      about
      > > > > changing out the no sniveler quilt with old rag mnt quilt due
      > to
      > > > > extra down in the later. I have several concerns/questions.
      > At
      > > > what
      > > > > temp range will this setup be? If pad is added/used (therm-a-
      > > rest
      > > > > pro lite) would that give extra warmth? Would swapping the
      > > quilts
      > > > > (no sniveler vs old rag mnt) make a difference. Is anyone
      > using
      > > > this
      > > > > combo? Since I have always used a mummy bag, will I have
      > trouble
      > > > > adjusting to quilt? Are there any other suggestions for
      > similiar
      > > > > sleep system. Have a Happy New Year!
      > > > > Rob
      > > >
      > > > Rob,
      > > >
      > > > Too date no one has just a Nest and Old Rag Mtn Quilt. The
      main
      > > > issue with that combo is that the Old Rag Mtn is loss of some
      > > > flexibility. The ORM is not designed to also function as an
      > under
      > > > quilt. This means that you loose the "double up the bottom"
      > > > option. By its self the ORM is about a 20 degree quilt…Sides
      > stay
      > > > tucked in a hammock. Ground sleeper will experience some air
      > leaks
      > > > if they toss and turn…IMHO quilts are easy to adjust to for a
      > > > hammocker….most who tried quilts right after Jardine first
      > > published
      > > > Beyond Backpacking were ground sleepers and many gave up on
      > quilts…
      > > > Also, if one sleeps with ones head and face inside a mummy bag
      (
      > > not
      > > > a good ideas as it loads moisture into the bag) it will take
      > some
      > > > effort to get used to a quilt…a good balaclava is the key to
      > > > enjoying the quilt.
      > > >
      > > > Recommend reading the articles on www.jacksrbetter.com . They
      > will
      > > > give you a good feel for temperature ranges and tricks for
      added
      > > > warmth .
      > > >
      > > > The ORM is best as a light weight alternative to a sleeping bag…
      > > Most
      > > > folk continue to use an existing bag for the winter with the 3
      > > > season set doubled on the bottom…. Send the bag home when
      passed
      > Mt
      > > > Rogers VA, if nobo, then use the three season set…. Glen Cliff
      > NH
      > > is
      > > > a popular place to get winter gear mailed back too for the fall
      > > > finishing leg of a thru.
      > > >
      > > > If you intend to carry a pad anyway, the nest supplemented by
      > the
      > > > pad and the ORM will be warmer….it will also be less
      comfortable
      > in
      > > > the summer.
      > > >
      > > > Hope this helps.
      > > >
      > > > Jack
      > >
      > > Jack,
      > >
      > > Thanks for the responce. I understand you are one of the owners
      > of
      > > JRB. I have looked @ the articles on your website. I have
      > another
      > > couple of questions. Will JRB 3 season setup fit the ultralight
      > > Expedition HH and perform the same as backpacker ultralight? If
      > > ordered, how long will it take JRB to conplete order. What is
      > color
      > > of current batch production? Thank you in advance!
      > >
      > > Rob
      >
      > Rob,
      >
      > Yes, the 3 season set will fit the UL exped. It fits all HH. In
      > fact, we have not found a hammock that it will not work with. See
      > pictures on FAQ page of web site.
      >
      > We have two sets in stock...currently no waiting. This could change
      > at any time based on orders.
      >
      > Current color is emerald green. Close match to our current tarp
      > color.
      >
      > Jack

      Jack,

      I will let you know early next week on my decision. I am considering
      also going to 4 season setup. Thanks for the help and will talk to
      you soon.

      Rob
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