I imagine the Ponderaos is about as good as it gets. I'm considering
something like a Nort Face Golith or Mammoth. I would have to
modify it with a hole in the end for the hammock line to pass out but
the 6' 8" version might be long enough to get a speere inside. The
hood on the bottom might want to hang down or maybe pass the head end
rope through the "modified hood" something like a big gromet. It
weighs 4 lb 10 oz but of couse I would be doing away with any pad
except for really cold nights which i would have to experiment to find
the low it would go. Basically like the PeaPod I'm looking to get a
sleeping bag which will fit around my setup. you could always "loan"
me the Ponderosa. I would send it right back LOL
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org
, Robert Moore <simva4040@y...>
> The more I play with the Ponderosa the more I like it....I guess I
have been spoiled by the Arc Alpinist-the lightest amount of sleeping
warmth you can carry, and I always carry a WM Flight, so the two, well
I could go on and on...but the Ponderosa just may have an advantage
over the other pods....I was reading that Risk keeps a knife with him
so he can get out ....in the Pon/Crib combo you dont have that
worry.....I did sleep in the Nunatak down balaclava this evening to
get a feel for it....wonderful is an understatement but if you know
the Arc alpinist then you know their workmanship....
> Wednesday night we (La AquaNa) and I will be testing hammock
variations of insulation at Ripshin (realistic temps there)...she
doesnt want to deal with the tacos/underquilts/pods right now and is
trying to go it with pads...since she is 5'2 and very light and not
wide I told her she would probably do well with a Therm-a-rest and an
additional closed cell pad placed 90 to the therm-a-rest....
> OK for now, here in the hospital at the moment and will be all night.
> Medicine Man
> Coy <starnescr@y...> wrote:
> Medicine Man
> Thanks, and when you have "all" the answers I'm all ears LOL. As
> for the straps exiting as one, Yep, thats pretty much what I
> experienced. On the other hand my daughter has sort of laid claim
> to the Crib and when she uses it the straps dont draw up so tight or
> close together. Maybe I need to lose some weight LOL.
> It was cold here all day (Sat) but it got up to 40 for a few
> minutes. We had sleet and snow Friday but no acculation High Fri
> was 36. The ground is still to warm. Great testing weather... I
> for now I'm on the lookout for a "big man" rectangular bag like you
> see in Sportsmans Guide etc. I know they weigh a ton but I could
> test the concept with different hammocks to see if it will work for
> me. Then either get a Ponderosa, PeaPod, or a homemade version.
> Coy Boy
> --- In email@example.com, Robert Moore <simva4040@y...>
> > Coy,
> > So many questions and many I cannot answer because in all honesty
> I have not taken the Ponderosa/Crib on a hike yet....our last 2
> sections we slacked ( I had done them before and La AquaNa needed
> them, they were around Hotsprings NC so we took the opportunity to
> use the hot springs after each hike-luxury hiking!).....The system I
> have hiked with is the taco/HH with varying insulation.
> > The 6'6" Ponderosa had no problem covering up my head and still
> providing good (well complete) coverage of the foot area.....but not
> wanting condensation inside I ordered the Nunatak balaclava to use
> in this system.
> > The Crib does lay differently than the HH, and though I have the a-
> sym I never slept crosswise in it and wont in the Crib....in trials
> with La AquaNa padding me down to see if the down was every
> compressed we found that wasnt even in the fetal position--so with
> that I'm thinking the Ponderosa may not be as wide in the middle as
> the peapod, it is still a wide bag....which makes me wonder what the
> Spear PeaPod will cost when it comes out in down????
> > As far as wind driven rain/snow....I use the Golite Cave2 tarp
> instead of the OME fly that came with the HH...I like it for the
> real estate below though it is a heavy tarp at around a pound....but
> it is so large I havent had any problems with the driven water-I did
> with the OME with some intense horizontal rain behind Albert Mtn
> shelter, my underquilt got wet but I was still warm, it was then
> that I switched to the Cave2....
> > Yes my Crib has 2 straps but when weighted and pulled tight they
> are essentially one strap leaving the hammock....did you look
> closely at the pics I posted at whiteblaze.net of the setup? if so
> you saw that the foot end appears only to have one strap leaving the
> foot box.....
> > Ok, sorry I was late and missed your questions....I do love the
> Ponderosa, we have taken it on many a hike to sleep under as a
> comforter in the motel or hostel and its original intent was paddle
> camping where the kayak doesnt care how much it weighs :)
> > Medicine Man
> > oooo, forgot, here in the shadow of Roan Mountain it hasnt gotten
> above 24 degrees all day.
> > Coy <starnescr@y...> wrote:
> > Bob
> > I seee no one answered your questions, mine either, so I'll give
> > what I know and what I suspect. See below.
> > --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Robert Mittelman
> > <rmittelman@s...> wrote:
> > > Robert,
> > >
> > > I am considering buying a hammock and need either a new winter
> > for a January snow shoeing trip to northern Maine, or an overbag
> > my long mummy bag that is comfortable into the single digits.
> > my interest in your Crib/Ponderosa set up. I have a few questions:
> > >
> > > 1) what length Ponderosa do you have? I would think that the 7'
> > would be best for Pea Pod use, but for my overbag needs, 6' 6"
> > should be sufficient. I don't plan on using a hammock on my Maine
> > trip.
> > I would think the 7 foot version would be best with a speer type,
> > The crib is shorter by a little and is wider at each end. it uses
> > straps and it dosent quite come together at the ends like a Soeer
> > Hennessy. The bag will still need to slide down the hammock a
> > little but with a 7 foot bag it would be close to being able to
> > it closed at the middle of the foot end where the hanging strap
> > exits the bag.
> > >
> > > 2) Coy has a post where he questions using a Ponderosa as a Pea
> > Pod for a Speer hammock. I haven't seen a response from you, but
> > thought I'd ask if you have any thoughts on the subject.
> > The Crib is narrower than the Speere so I may try to make a Speere
> > little narrower. I don't think the Ponderosa is as big in the
> > middle as Eds PeaPod.
> > >
> > > 3) how does the Crib sleep relative to your Hennessey? Which is
> > more comfortable and why? Do you sleep in the Crib on the
> > as in the Hennessey and Speer? If not, how do you avoid the
> > shape? Will sleeping on the diagonal be possible when using the
> > Ponderosa as a Pea Pod, given the barrel shape of the Ponderosa?
> > I have a Crib but mine uses the hoops so mine dosn't pinch at the
> > shoulders as much as the regular Crib. I have tried mine without
> > the spreaded bars (hoops) and it definatly closes around me
> > than my hennessys do. But it is still very confortable. I sleep
> > little flatter in the HH than I do in the Crib especially sans the
> > spreader hoops.
> > >
> > > 4) have you used the Crib/Ponderosa in snowy, windy conditions?
> > If so, was snow blowing into the hammock a problem?
> > I imagine the head sticking out will allow some blowing snow
> > the face area but hanging the tarp low and devising a wind break
> > with spare rain jacket etc at the head end will help. When using
> > the Ponderosa as a PeaPod I doubt the netting would be in use even
> > though it helps block a little wind and most snow. Maybe throw a
> > Frogg Togg top over my head if the snow was blowing that bad.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Bob Mittelman
> > Coy Boy
> > Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > email@example.com
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > ---------------------------------
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
> Do you Yahoo!?
> New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing