Boy, that inflatable sleeping bag is called the Cocoon and it did cost about
$1000--the most expensive piece of outdoor gear I ever owned. But I hate
the cold and I was working near the Arctic Circle in the winter time!
Actually it was for emergencies and was a business expense!
The DAM is similar
construction--both are custom-made from readily available materials and I'm
thinking of adapting something similar for use as an under blanket for the
saw that inflatable tent last year (someone posted a link on BPL I
If I remember it was over $1000. If I were going to spend a
time in severe cold I believe I'd go with it. I dont think
would be a lot of advantages to hanging it. But if you are
expeirmenting with something like this I would like to
see a down air
mattres built just for hammocks. You may have seen
the D.A.M from
warmlight.com. This may be the best solution plus it
would work as a
ground pad when needed. I would like to see a down
air matress wider than
normal but a sewn on top skinnier than
normal. The bottem pad would
take care of the bottom and sides and
the top would just cover the top of
chest/legs. I'll bet it would be
expensive to make though.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Ed Speer" <info@s...>
> WOW, you have several great ideas here Bear. I especially
> of candles beneath the hammock for heat--I know that
> used in cave exploration where underground
camping is necessary.
> have been using hammocks
sourrounded by a plastic drop cloth tube-
> with a single candle
burning on the ground beneath the hammock for
> time. But
a cave envirnoment is mild temps (55-75F) w/ no wind (or
> bugs); may
not work as well outside. BTW, I currently have a Speer
on just such a caving expedition in India right now.
> I've been wanting to experiemnt w/ fabric side panels from hammock
> the ground, like skirting around a mobil home, but haven't
> to it yet. This should work well--my pile of
leaves under the
> this Fall worked great!
> An inflatable hammock? I've been thinking about this
> have a very expensive inflatable sleeping
bag that I bought a few
> ago for Arctic camping--It's like
having a 4"-thick air mattress
> completely around the body. Very
warm--down to -40F! The inflated
> tubes contain down, unlike
the heavy open-cell foam in ThermaRest
> to prevent air
currents. The entire setup weighs 8 lbs (but it all
> serves as
combo bivy, sleeping bag, sleep pad, and ground sheet).
has given me some ideas. I could probably make something similar
> straps for hanging like a hammock, but the weight would be too
> backpacking. I've thought about making a hammock w/
a 4/5 length,
> inflatable down-filled bottom--would probably weigh only
2 lbs (not
> counting bug net and tarp). It would be ideal for
> but not summer use. A 1.5" snap-on
removable 4/5 length inflatable
> down-filled under pad might just do
the trick--but the labor
> would make it very
expensive. Still, I hope to try this this year.
My observations on ThermARest type pads--the ultralight weight
> favored by backpackers produce cold spots because of the
> of foam inside. However, the regular versions
have solid open-
> inside, thus they weigh more, but are
much warmer w/out cold spots
> the old weight vs warmth
> Dang. I'm sorry but I seem to have
confused EVERYONE with my
> terminology. Ed. the "shawl" isn't anything
other than a
> piece of evazote pad (30 x 48 inches). I call it
> because I wrap it around my shoulders (like a shawl) just
before I lie down in the hammock. But once it's down, it's
> just like
any other piece of pad, lying there in the bottom.
> I think
closed-cell foam pads are great, except for the
> width. Either too
narrow, or so wide you ruin them by
> folding them to pack them around.
I wish fleece was as good,
> but for some reason I don't think it packs
> Maybe because the pads get put outside my pack, but
> fleece suit doesn't.
> I also like the notion of
non-compressible fabrics, like
> fleece and wool. But their strength is
> Hooray! They don't compress! Darn! They don't
> Still, I'm going to try more experiments with a wool
> pad to replace the foam pad. At least I COULD wear
> around camp like a shawl. (But then of course, I should
> it a pad, to sustain the confusion.)
dreamed about wearing a wet suit jacket. My diving
> buddies tell me
it's not a comfortable idea. Probably
> wouldn't pack well
> Maybe I just need about four chunks of 1 x 2 foot
> evazote to position between me and the hammock as I
> around on cold nights.
> I've said this before and
I'll say it again. I'd like to
> make a cloth cover that's like my
> BackCounty, but has wings. that way I could fold
> shoulder/torso wing parts and roll it all up neatly. Or
> take the pads out and roll them flat. I'd make the cover
accept one or two thicknesses of main pads, so I could
> tailor the pad
thickness to the weather.
> Slickery on the bottom and grabby
on the top. I don't know
> why, but it works, even in an HH.
> I also really do wonder about circulating the warm air that
floats above my torso down to the bottom of my Pea Pod. Not
> quite the
VW exchanger umbilical cord, but maybe an actual
> chunk of drier pipe
with a battery powered fan. Well...
> And maybe
dropping non-flammable skirts to the ground and
> putting a row of six
votive candles under my hammock.
> I'm also thinking about
taking a second look at ThermaRest
> pads. When I look at my winter
pack, then (later) look at my
> hammock and bag and puffy clothes, it
really hits home how
> much insulation is about volume. So adding the
> inflating a pad seems good. I don't have to pack and
> the air.
> Maybe a sealed silnylon under-hammock
that gets inflated
> after hanging?
> And about the
under-hammock. The idea of making a simple one
> appeals to me, because
I could stuff whatever I wanted
> between my butt and the under-hammock,
but still be able to
> position it easily when I'm in the hammock. I
think Ed does
> that with his Pea Pod some times.
this same vein, the Garling insulation system seems
> really promising,
especially as it can work with simple and
> complex hammocks.
> In summary, the best I've actually found so far:
- Mountain Hardwear BackCountry with quilt
> Simple - Speer Pea Pod plus
various closed or combination
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