RE: Hammock Camping Silnylon question and Hammock report
MessageJim, the usual 1.1 oz/yd2 silnylon ripstop is much too fragile to survive 70MPH winds with normal attachment points, such as snaps, or sewed pull tabs--the fabric will tear at the stress point, especially where it is sewed or a grommett or snap is installed. If you could support the fabric evenly along each full edge, it might work--as in a vise like gripping system where the fabric is rolled around a rod and is stressed evenly and fully along each edge. The fabric is windproof, even at 70 MPH winds, but it's a challenge to secure it properly. Using overhand knots as anchor points, like we do in Speer Hammocks, might work--is there any way to do this?Glad to hear about the Sturgis trip...Ed-----Original Message-----Hey all, first a question that doesn't exactly deal with hammocks.
From: Jim Rubino [mailto:jrubino@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 10:15 AM
Subject: Hammock Camping Silnylon question and Hammock report
How durable is silnylon? As a biker/tree-hanger I was thinking that this
material might be perfect to cover the front crash bars on my motorcycle.
But will it be durable enough to handle 70+ mph winds for extended
durations? Will it stop the wind at this speed? If I install snaps will that
tear the fabric? Or is there a better way to attach it around a bar
temporarily? (I am asking here because y'all seem to be the most
knowledgeable people I know on this subject) oh and to sort of relate it to
hammock camping, I take my hammock when traveling on my bike. That leads me
to the second part...
Sportsman's guide hammock review:
Before my 2 week trip to Sturgis, SD for a motorcycle rally, I asked a few
questions about hanging a hammock with only one anchor point. I am glad to
report this was all in vain. All but 3 nights I found great mounting points
and had no problem, the other 3 nights we spent indoors for various reasons.
My camping rig consisted of the following:
1 Sportsman's guide blue hammock
1 5 x 8 typical blue tarp with grommets
1 blue waffle type sleeping pad
1 VERY light weight sleeping bag
4 tent stakes
Luckily bugs were never an issue so I never wished I had any bug-net type
stuff. As for the actual use of the hammock, it worked out fair to good. (in
hammock terms, but much better than a tent) the hammock itself is priced
fairly, it is not a great hammock but it did it's job. I did have one of the
support strings in the "fan" part of the strings break. I didn't notice any
ill effects from this other than me being a bit nervous the first time
getting in after this. The tarp was a bit noisy, but nothing compared to
tons of motorcycles driving all along the campground all night, so it didn't
bother me. In the woods it would probably drive me crazy. I did make quite a
few bikers re-think their sleeping arrangements, I would wake up after a
long day of riding, and a long night of playing without a sore bone in my
body. Not many ground dwellers could claim the same. I did cheat a little
and have a small kid's tent as a backup but it proved worth it's space by
becoming my storage/changing room. So the short story is that I would like
to thank y'all for the help and giving me the confidence to take the
hammock. It worked great.
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- The silnylon may not be waterproof at 70mph.
The 1.9 oz might be more durable, but I'm not sure it would survive
70 mph either.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Ed Speer" <info@s...> wrote:
> Jim, the usual 1.1 oz/yd2 silnylon ripstop is much too fragile to
> 70MPH winds with normal attachment points, such as snaps, or sewed
> tabs--the fabric will tear at the stress point, especially where it
> or a grommett or snap is installed.
- Hi, If this is attached to your Bike, why don't you
think about using "Spectra" ?? Bill
--- ciyd01 <ciyd@...> wrote:
> The silnylon may not be waterproof at 70mph.__________________________________
> The 1.9 oz might be more durable, but I'm not sure
> it would survive
> 70 mph either.
> --- In email@example.com, "Ed Speer"
> <info@s...> wrote:
> > Jim, the usual 1.1 oz/yd2 silnylon ripstop is much
> too fragile to
> > 70MPH winds with normal attachment points, such as
> snaps, or sewed
> > tabs--the fabric will tear at the stress point,
> especially where it
> is sewed
> > or a grommett or snap is installed.
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- Or waterproof oxford cloth or cordura. Now that's good stuff!
Quoting Bill Fornshell <bfornshell@...>:
> Hi, If this is attached to your Bike, why don't you-------------------------------------------------
> think about using "Spectra" ?? Bill
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- I wanted to thank everyone for the answers on the material. I will skip the
Silnylon, since it seems to be too fragile, and while Spectra seems great, I
think it may be a bit cost prohibitive and it is special order only. I think
I will try the waterproof oxford cloth or cordura. As my testing continues
through the winter (well when I find something that works) I will let
everyone know. I basically want something that packs down fairly well so
that I can keep in in my saddlebags. But since this will be more punishment
than most hammocks will have to withstand, it may be useful information for
anyone looking for a "bombproof" hammock and/or tarp.
Thanks again for the help.