Oh Boy, Cold Wars II, winding up!
- View SourceIt's the time of year, I guess. School just started. Someplace in
the back of our brains, the notion of COLD is beginning to sink in.
It's still hot as blazes, but there are some hints of the coming
season. Some of the leaves are falling from the trees. And questions
about keeping warm are becoming more frequent.
I think we are going to have a fun season working to defeat the
adversary of a cold back at 3 AM!
First, a short report on the VERY wide pad I built yesterday: It
works. It keeps me warm. No cold shoulders, no cold knees. Last
night we had a series of rain showers with winds about 15-25 mph come
though. It gently rocked me to sleep. The pad felt great and I have
never had such a nice night's sleep in a hammock... and that is
compared with a lot of nights. If I can figure out a way to easily
pack the thing, it is worth the extra 2 oz. More details to follow...
just a teaser for now.
For the questions:
>What results have you all had using a pad forinsulation and using an under quilt?
I have used several versions of the Garlington Insulator and the
derivitive Taco Shell. I have not yet used a quilt, though I plan on
building a derivitive of Ed's Pea Pod this fall. In my plan, it will
be the inverse of a Big Agnes. It will have no insulation above, all
will be below. I intend a simple tube that is put on the hammock
before the line is tied to the tree. The bottom of the tube will be
insulated with polar guard. The top will be a layer of 1.1oz nylon.
I have lots of experience with several different pads. They all work
well. The stiffer they are, the more irritating are the folds that
bend into them along their margin as they bend into the hammock shape.
>I'd like to know the temps as well.I have needed a pad for all temps below 80. With two pads and a
Garlington Insulator, I slept through a 5 F (-15 C) night with blustry
winds last winter.
>I'm trying to decide weather to pursue the pad option or justmake an under quilt. ANy info. is appreciated
Ah..., simple answer is to try both. Pad options are a lot cheaper,
lighter, and easier. There are conditions when both are necessary.
>And also: Has anyone used the 5/8 pad in comparison to the 3/8 andwhat were your results? Is it overkill? Aslo, down to what temps
have we had success with either pad size? Finally, is there an
advantage to using the flat pads as opposed to the ones that are
bumpy or ridged? I'd also like to know if you are using your pad in
the hammock or under.
Last winter's experiments were made with pads inside the hammock.
Since then, I have been using a double bottomed hammock built to hold
a pad between two layers... My version is called the Quarterweight
hammock and has been described in detail here... I find materials
very important in staying warm. 5/8 is not overkill. WalMart has a
nice waffle weave pad that is quite thick. For real winter, it is a
godsend, either alone, or inside another wider pad. I like the Target
pad material because it stretches a lot and compresses a lot before it
folds. And the folds are not as hard as with many materials. It also
does not seem to be a closed cell foam, as it will slowly get wet (in
the bottom of a wet pack) and takes a while to dry.
>Which is better, the REI or Target pad? I have both in my house nowand can't tell just by looking. I like the feel of the REI pad better,
but it's an ounce heavier.
Much like the above, Carol, just try them one at a time in several
temperature ranges. The Target pad, alone, is only good to about
freezing. After that, I need more insulation... either a second pad,
or a thicker pad, or some fleece clothing, or something.
I'd also like to mention Medicine Man's complete post just above. I
enjoyed reading it. I look forward to his work this winter. The new
down underquilt sounds very interesting.