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  • Ed Speer
    Jamie and Dave After seeing Dave s folded pad on our recent hike, I m intrigued and may just have to try it myself soon....Ed ... From: Dave Womble
    Message 1 of 15 , Jul 29, 2003
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      Jamie and Dave
      After seeing Dave's folded pad on our recent hike, I'm intrigued and may just have to try it myself soon....Ed
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Dave Womble [mailto:dpwomble@...]
      Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:55 AM
      To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Hammock Camping Re: The thinest pad?...


      Okay, I have a better idea of what you have.  I have been using a
      homemade two layer Speer hammock (or double bottom or twin-layer, its
      the same principal) since March and have had pretty good results with
      keeping my pad in place.  This two layer arrangement gives equal
      tension on both layers and your body weight keeps the pad in place.
      Unfortunately, I haven't used it in cold weather yet, and cold
      weather is the real test.  If all other things are equal, and they
      are not always equal, a pads 'warmth' is directly proportional to its
      thickness.  Right now, I am using a REI standard blue foam 3/8" pad
      cut into four llx24" sections, with the sections duct taped together
      so that they fold up to 1.5x11x24" and fold out to 3/8x44x24".  The
      folded up pad goes into my Breeze backpack, with a slight J-bend at
      the bottom on my pack.  The duct tape seems to hold very well on this
      type of foam.  My sleeping bag goes in next on top of the J-bend and
      kind of locks the padding in place.  Of course the padding is
      oriented such that it pads my back when I have my pack on.  Now, I do
      use highly compressible down sleeping bags, the WM Highlite and the
      WM Ultralite for 40 and 20 degree weather, respectively.  If I were
      using sleeping bags that were much larger when stuffed, this wouldn't

      Having said all that, I think Ed Speer mentioned that he offers 1/4"
      pads for sell that he thinks work great for hammocks.  I haven't used
      them, but I tend to pay attention to what Ed says as he has probably
      forgotten more about hammocks than I know, but I am having fun
      learning.  I don't think Ed cuts & tapes his pad, I believe he uses
      the unroll/empty tube pack frame arrangement, as do most people.  I
      like the squared padding arrangement because that is closer to the
      shape of my pack, I only have the 'sticky' pad to deal with on one
      side when I stuff/unstuff my pack and the J-bend arrangement tends to
      lock the pad in postion so that it doesn't 'ride up' during the day.


      --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "Jamie" <jdeben@h...> wrote:
      > Dave, my mistake, the REI pad I was refering to is the very same
      > stated.  My pregnancy depleated memory was not working when I wrote
      > that they were 3/4 of an inch thick.
      > I made a bottom insulator kind of like the GI taco out of a Neat
      > Sheet and was going to put a lightweight pad in there for colder
      > temps when I need more insulation rather than have to try to sleep
      > the pad in the hammock.
      > jamie in az
      > --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Womble"
      > wrote:
      > > Jamie,
      > >
      > > The unbranded pads that REI sells are what people usually refer
      > > as 'standard blue foam' and comes in two sizes, 75x24x3/8" and
      > > 56x24x3/8"; they sell for $16 and $10, respectively.  The Target
      > pads
      > > are also blue but appear to be a different material and they are
      > > 72x27x3/8"; this pad sells for $10.  So, I am confused about the
      > 3/4"
      > > pad that you mentioned that REI sells.  I am also confused as to
      > how
      > > you are using a pad as "a under the hammock wind/cold barrier",
      > I
      > > believe that the pad thickness will still determine how warm you
      > will
      > > be.
      > >
      > > Youngblood
      > >
      > > --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "Jamie" <jdeben@h...>
      > > >
      > > > > You didn't mention how thick your pad is, but both
      > > > > www.spearhammocks.com and www.owareusa.com sell 1/4" thick
      > > of
      > > > > various sizes for hammock campers.  Also keep in mind that
      > > are
      > > > > using the pad to keep your backside warm and usually the
      > thinner
      > > > pads
      > > > > won't keep you as warm.
      > > > >
      > > > > Youngblood
      > > >
      > > > Now this isn't the case if you are using the pad as a under the
      > > > hammock wind/cold barrier is it?  I was looking at the ones REI
      > > have
      > > > that are 3/4 of an inche think or the one's from Target that
      > > everyone
      > > > talks about.
      > > >
      > > > Jamie in AZ

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