HELLO ALL !!!!! my name is george[gumby]cole ,I live in Mebane NC 27302.I
use a surplus hammock w/1"  20' straps[just can't always find tree's at
12-15' LOL.I also carry  200'coils of rope[not for climbing],that with
some knots,allow me plenty of room from others[I tend to wake up BEAR'S]
!!!!! this all fits in my kayak hatch,and doesn't cause probs in or uot .
later gumby/zenkayaker,and part time social terrorist[heh heh heh] [?]
enjoy your days&remember your nites, move or die ,the only
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Robert Gochicoa <rgochicoa@...>wrote:
> OMG. If the opt-in list for this forum has now convinced itself that death
> is no longer either in the immediate past or imminent future I think it's
> time to move on re: the subject line. You can do a redux on October 31 with
> hobgoblins and jack-o-lanterns.
> From: firstname.lastname@example.org <hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> email@example.com <hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com>]
> On Behalf Of boardmanmw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:24 PM
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org <hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Hammock Camping] Re: Is this forum dead? (Suspension system)
> Here's my solution:
> Use polypro straps; mine are from Speer, rated at 750 lbs. I like to do the
> strap adjusting from the hammock end of the line, not the tree end. It's
> more convenient, and you only have to get next to the tree once, avoiding
> the branches, bugs, dew, sap etc.
> Sew (or tie) a 3inch loop in the end of your strap. Wrap that end of the
> strap around the tree (twice, if you have enough strap), then run the
> hammock end of the strap thru the loop and snug up against the tree. Done
> with that end, and no knot to worry about. The free end goes to the
> On each end of the hammock I use a 1.5 inch climbers descender ring (0.5 oz
> each). Instead of a Spear style knot in the hammock, I bunch the hammock
> up, run it thru the ring a couple of inches, lay it over and whip it back
> the hammock body with mason twine or thin nylon cord (could use the
> cords of gutted parachute line). Wrap the whipping tight as possible at
> least 1.5-2.0 inch, or more. The hammock material (assuming you are using
> some lightweight nylon), will lay thru the ring nicely, with no sharp edges
> and good stress distribution on the material. If the whipping is tight, the
> hammock material won't slip back thru the ring. If you're concerned about
> it, melt a small hole thru the bunched hammock material halfway down the
> whipping and run the whip cord thru the hole a couple of times, then
> continue the whipping. The whip cord will cover the hole, and now you've
> a very positive connection between the hammock material and the whip cord.
> stand 73 inches and weigh 215, and I've used this for the last 5 years
> without ever a failure. And that's without the thru hole.
> So now you have a hammock with descender rings at each end, with your
> hanging straps fixed to the trees--incidently with no overtightened knots
> the tree end.
> To suspend the hammock, just run the strap thru the descender ring, then
> around and back thru the ring, so it goes thru the ring twice. Pull the
> slack thru until you've got the hammock curve you want, then just pull a
> loop of the strap over itself and snug up, like tieing a shoelace. The
> excess strap just hangs down, so it doesn't matter how much extra strap you
> have. When you tension the hammock (ie, get in)your weight pulls the knot
> against the descender ring, and it won't slip, even if wet. If you only ran
> the strap thru the ring once, it might slip, but with two wraps thru the
> ring, the stress is on the wraps, not the knot. It holds with no slip, yet
> it's fully adjustable until you tie the slip knot.
> To disassemble, just hold the hammock in one hand, grab the free end of the
> strap and give it a good pull to undo the slip knot. If it's really tight,
> you might need to waggle the free end back and forth a time or two, but it
> will come loose easily, guaranteed. I've never had this system jam on me,
> come loose when I didn't want it to. Then you just recover the two straps,
> roll 'em up and stash in the stow bag with the hammock itself.
> Best of all, it's easy to adjust the hang of the hammock to exactly the
> curve you want. Inevitably, I tie up, get in to test it, then want to tweak
> the curve a little. This system makes it really easy, since you're working
> at each end of the hammock, rather than all the way back at the tree ends.
> This is the ring I use: http://www.rei.com/product/471123 ,
> but you could use any qualified ring or a carabiner that's rated for the
> weight. These are cheap ($2.90 each at REI), compact and above all
> lightweight (0.5 oz). If you are concerned about ring failure, Omega
> sells a much more robust ring (http://www.rei.com/product/745608), but
> there's a size and weight trade off.
> Other advantages: The knot and ring act as water stops; any rain running
> down the strap hits the knot and diverts down the free end of the strap
> that's just hanging down; you don't need to tie a sock or cloth piece to
> prevent water draining down onto the hammock. Second, if you know you're
> headed to an area of very large diameter trees, you can make a second set
> extra long straps to accomodate. Otherwise, use your shorter standard ones
> (mine are cut at 11 feet to save the extra weight-- and still longer than
> I've ever needed). But I've never hung in the Redwoods... One hammock,
> multiple sets of straps, as needed.
> I can post some pictures if there's any interest. Regards to all. Mike
> --- In email@example.com <hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com>
> , "Steven Bronstein" <steve@...>
> > The knot Ralph is referring to is sometimes called a Trucker's Hitch and
> > agree, it is a great solution.
> > One question I have is that when I wrap around the tree twice when you
> > up on the hitch you then have to adjust the strapping that is cinched
> > the tree to even out the pull and then your hammock adjustment has
> > I have been trying to come up with a more elegant solution so that you
> > eliminate the fussing. Adding rings at the hammock loop and using a
> > carabiner around the tree works well but adds more weight.
> > I want to be able to pull till the curve in the hammock is correct and
> > tie it off and be done.
> > .
> > Steven Bronstein
> > Blackthorne Forge
> > Marshfield, VT 05658
> > phone/fax 802-426-3369
> > www.blackthorneforge.com
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