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RE: [Hammock Camping] time to move on

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  • David Ball
    Now that is funny!!!! Personal growth, team building and leadership development through outdoor adventure http:/www.riverjourneys.org On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at
    Message 1 of 45 , Sep 22 12:11 PM
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      Now that is funny!!!!

      Personal growth, team building and leadership development through
      outdoor adventure

      On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:26 PM , Robert Gochicoa wrote:

      OMG. If the opt-in list for this forum has now convinced itself that
      is no longer either in the immediate past or imminent future I think
      time to move on re: the subject line. You can do a redux on October 31
      hobgoblins and jack-o-lanterns.


      From: hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com
      <mailto:hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com> [mailto: hammockcamping@
      yahoogroups. com <mailto:hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com> ]
      On Behalf Of boardmanmw
      Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:24 PM
      To: hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com
      Subject: [Hammock Camping] Re: Is this forum dead? (Suspension system)

      Here's my solution:
      Use polypro straps; mine are from Speer, rated at 750 lbs. I like to do
      strap adjusting from the hammock end of the line, not the tree end. It's
      more convenient, and you only have to get next to the tree once,
      the branches, bugs, dew, sap etc.

      Sew (or tie) a 3inch loop in the end of your strap. Wrap that end of the
      strap around the tree (twice, if you have enough strap), then run the
      hammock end of the strap thru the loop and snug up against the tree.
      with that end, and no knot to worry about. The free end goes to the

      On each end of the hammock I use a 1.5 inch climbers descender ring (0.5
      each). Instead of a Spear style knot in the hammock, I bunch the hammock
      up, run it thru the ring a couple of inches, lay it over and whip it
      back on
      the hammock body with mason twine or thin nylon cord (could use the
      cords of gutted parachute line). Wrap the whipping tight as possible at
      least 1.5-2.0 inch, or more. The hammock material (assuming you are
      some lightweight nylon), will lay thru the ring nicely, with no sharp
      and good stress distribution on the material. If the whipping is tight,
      hammock material won't slip back thru the ring. If you're concerned
      it, melt a small hole thru the bunched hammock material halfway down the
      whipping and run the whip cord thru the hole a couple of times, then
      continue the whipping. The whip cord will cover the hole, and now you've
      a very positive connection between the hammock material and the whip
      cord. I
      stand 73 inches and weigh 215, and I've used this for the last 5 years
      without ever a failure. And that's without the thru hole.

      So now you have a hammock with descender rings at each end, with your
      hanging straps fixed to the trees--incidently with no overtightened
      knots at
      the tree end.

      To suspend the hammock, just run the strap thru the descender ring, then
      around and back thru the ring, so it goes thru the ring twice. Pull the
      slack thru until you've got the hammock curve you want, then just pull a
      loop of the strap over itself and snug up, like tieing a shoelace. The
      excess strap just hangs down, so it doesn't matter how much extra strap
      have. When you tension the hammock (ie, get in)your weight pulls the
      knot up
      against the descender ring, and it won't slip, even if wet. If you only
      the strap thru the ring once, it might slip, but with two wraps thru the
      ring, the stress is on the wraps, not the knot. It holds with no slip,
      it's fully adjustable until you tie the slip knot.

      To disassemble, just hold the hammock in one hand, grab the free end of
      strap and give it a good pull to undo the slip knot. If it's really
      you might need to waggle the free end back and forth a time or two, but
      will come loose easily, guaranteed. I've never had this system jam on
      me, or
      come loose when I didn't want it to. Then you just recover the two
      roll 'em up and stash in the stow bag with the hammock itself.

      Best of all, it's easy to adjust the hang of the hammock to exactly the
      curve you want. Inevitably, I tie up, get in to test it, then want to
      the curve a little. This system makes it really easy, since you're
      at each end of the hammock, rather than all the way back at the tree

      This is the ring I use: http://www.rei com/product/ 471123
      <http://www.rei.com/product/471123> ,
      but you could use any qualified ring or a carabiner that's rated for the
      weight. These are cheap ($2.90 each at REI), compact and above all
      lightweight (0.5 oz). If you are concerned about ring failure, Omega
      sells a much more robust ring ( http://www.rei com/product/ 745608
      <http://www.rei.com/product/745608> ), but
      there's a size and weight trade off.

      Other advantages: The knot and ring act as water stops; any rain running
      down the strap hits the knot and diverts down the free end of the strap
      that's just hanging down; you don't need to tie a sock or cloth piece to
      prevent water draining down onto the hammock. Second, if you know you're
      headed to an area of very large diameter trees, you can make a second
      set of
      extra long straps to accomodate. Otherwise, use your shorter standard
      (mine are cut at 11 feet to save the extra weight-- and still longer
      I've ever needed). But I've never hung in the Redwoods... One hammock,
      multiple sets of straps, as needed.

      I can post some pictures if there's any interest. Regards to all. Mike

      --- In hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com
      <mailto:hammockcamp ing%40yahoogroup s.com> , "Steven Bronstein"
      > The knot Ralph is referring to is sometimes called a Trucker's Hitch
      > and ,
      > agree, it is a great solution.
      > One question I have is that when I wrap around the tree twice when you
      > up on the hitch you then have to adjust the strapping that is cinched
      > the tree to even out the pull and then your hammock adjustment has
      > I have been trying to come up with a more elegant solution so that you
      > can eliminate the fussing. Adding rings at the hammock loop and using
      > a carabiner around the tree works well but adds more weight.
      > I want to be able to pull till the curve in the hammock is correct and
      > tie it off and be done.
      > .
      > Steven Bronstein
      > Blackthorne Forge
      > Marshfield, VT 05658
      > phone/fax 802-426-3369
      > www.blackthorneforg e.com

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    • Jody Weiner
      Are there any hangs like this that happen in the New England area? I ve love to get a group together for a fall trip. ... [Non-text portions of this message
      Message 45 of 45 , Sep 22 1:46 PM
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        Are there any hangs like this that happen in the New England area? I've
        love to get a group together for a fall trip.

        On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Sandy <sandykayak@...> wrote:

        > Will the upcoming cuts in salary and benefits, I'm trying to sell my house
        > (have potential buyers)...so, who knows, maybe I'll be able to retire in the
        > not too distant future...
        > I have a new Aliner (A-frame popup camper) and plan to do more traveling.
        > sandy in miami
        > --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com <hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com>,
        > "Ed Speer" <ed@...> wrote:
        > >
        > > Hi Sandy, it sure has been quite here lately, but we're not dead. It's
        > > probably my fault since I simply don't have as much time as I'd like.
        > There
        > > have been a lot of new members lately, but they obviously don't feel
        > > comfortable enough to post yet. So the interest in hammock camping
        > > continues to grow rapidly. Today, I'm packing for our September Hang at
        > Hot
        > > Springs this weekend. Even with the rain, we expect 40-50 people. Hope
        > you
        > > can make it someday
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > Speer Hammocks Inc
        > >
        > > Quality Hammocks for Adventure Camping
        > >
        > > 3947 Mudcut Rd
        > >
        > > Marion, NC 28752
        > >
        > > 828.724.4444
        > >
        > > www.SpeerHammocks.com <http://www.speerhammocks.com/>
        > >
        > > info@...
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > From: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com <hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
        > hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com <hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com>]
        > > On Behalf Of sandykayak
        > > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:53 PM
        > > To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com <hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com>
        > > Subject: {Disarmed} [Hammock Camping] Is this forum dead?
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > Hi, I've been checking and there doesn't seem to be much conversing going
        > on
        > > here.
        > >
        > > Is everyone over at the other forum, which I haven't saved to
        > favorites?!!
        > >
        > > sandy kramer
        > > miami
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        > >

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