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  • m2b1997
    Okay, until a few days ago I had just been using a piece of cloth fabric, indoor or winter outdoor use only that was initially 15 feet long. I tied a knot in
    Message 1 of 51 , Jan 21, 2009
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      Okay, until a few days ago I had just been using a piece of cloth
      fabric, indoor or winter outdoor use only that was initially 15 feet
      long. I tied a knot in both ends and boom...there was my hammock
      ready to be hung.

      I had purchased a 15 foot piece of nylon and had already tied it off
      the old fashioned way and used it last Friday night outside and once
      or twice inside. Working like always, beautifully. No problems
      keeping the whole body/sleeping bag inside the hammock. Sure a
      little sliding around thanks to the switch to slicker bottom but I
      knew not to be surprised.

      I saw, if I remember right, on Just Jeff's page that Ed says to start
      with the fabric 2 feet longer than you are tall. Tie the ends and
      your ready to go.

      After seeing Just Jeff's piece I went out and retied my cotton
      hammock and redid the setup for it in the house. The first thing I
      was noticing was that it seemed like it was harder to get to feet to
      stay in the bottom of the hammock. The old way the feet had no
      trouble whatsoever staying in the hammock. Granted my feet were
      nowhere near the end of the hammock either which off course made the
      foot pocket that much larger.

      Yesterday in preps for heading back out for a near zero degree night
      last night I retied the nylon hammock and did some other farting
      around trying to get it set up so hopefully I would stay warm and
      comfortable all night long.

      I headed out and after doing a little fighting trying to get the
      padding where I wanted it I finally fell asleep. After waking up and
      using the peanut bar jar a few times overnight I noticed my toes were
      getting cold. Since I didn't have to open the hammock for any reason,
      thanks to the peanut bar jar, I didn't get a chance to see what was
      actually going on down at the feet.

      I managed to get the feet warmed back up/tired once again and fell
      back asleep for another 45-60 minutes. I woke up about 7:45, later
      than when I planned on getting up. As I started to get out of the
      sleeping bag the first thing I noticed was the feet were completely
      on top of the hammock. The feet weren't even inside the hammock at
      all. I think that helped to answer why my feet were cold. Heck, no
      padding, no wind/air break(admittedly it was dead calm winds
      overnight), no nothing underneath them at all.

      After getting out of the sleeping bag I walked to the top of the
      hammock where I had the thermometer hanging and I figured it was 5
      above zero. NOT!!! The forecast had been for 3 above for the low.
      OOPS, take away that weatherman's license to practice. Try more like -
      3 and just a couple of miles from Hanover, about a 35 minute drive
      from me...-11.

      So Ed, what do you guys use for your cut length? While 2 feet longer
      than your height does make for a nice tight fit, it also makes for A
      NICE TIGHT FIT! Having the feet dangling on top of the hammock isn't
      what is suppose to happen but it is a problem I have more or less
      seen each of the past three nights I've slept in a shorter hammock.
      I've never had the problem until now.

      Now if I could just figure out how to wrap that padding all the way
      around the body versus having it just under the body only...oops
      talking outloud. I got to learn to keep my mouth shut. I guess I know
      the forecast is for 10-15 below this weekend and I'm not staying
      inside. It's amazing the difference between having padding up around
      your shoulders and just having padding under your shoulders. I want
      the padding totally wrapped around the body for this weekend. I think
      I can take this zero degree Wal-Mart special mummy bag down to -15,
      very comfortably. Yes, I did decide to do it slightly differently as
      well. Since I couldn't find a decent way of attaching it to the
      outside of the hammock like I wanted to, no sewing machine yet, I put
      the padding right inside the sleeping bag. If the sleeping bag
      doesn't get cold, you won't get cold. The only part of the sleeping
      bag that was cold this morning was right above me...underneath and
      alogn the sides were still nice and warm thanks to the padding.

      MEANT 2B
      GAME '97
    • Arye P. R.
      another Option Check out Looking at page 2 under the
      Message 51 of 51 , Feb 22, 2009
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        another Option

        Check out

        <http://www.paragear.com/templates/parachutes.asp?group=244&level=2&parent=34>

        <http://www.paragear.com>

        Looking at page 2 under the Hardware section or search for the Item No's (Item: H336 or H336SS or 101 or 101SS) you have the following 1" cinch buckles ... page 1 has 'D' rings and there are tons of other goood stuff on the site inc. fabric, webbing, hardware, etc. I haven't seen a mention of a Min Order But I'm a walk in customer.

        Paragear has ALL you will need webbing cloth and hardware AND may also be able to do your sewing (remember they are making/ repairing Parachutes and Harnesses so they will do it right)


        Item: H336 1" QUICK FIT ADAPTER - 101

        H336 1" QUICK FIT ADAPTER - 101Same as No. H337 except this fits 1" wide webbing.
        Shipping Weight: 3 oz. (85g).
        Quantity Price Discounts:
        Price: 1 to 5 $2.50 6 to 19 $2.15 20 or more $1.75

        Item Price: $2.50
        =================================================

        Item: H336SS 1" STAINLESS STEEL QUICK FIT ADAPTER - 101SS

        H336SS 1" STAINLESS STEEL QUICK FIT ADAPTER - 101SS Similar to No. H336. Accepts 1" webbing. Tensile Strength: 500 lbs. (225kg). Shipping Weight: 3 oz. (85g).
        Quantity Price Discounts:
        Price: 1 to 5 $4.50 6 to 19 $3.85 20 or more $3.15



        Sapere Aude,

        Arye P. Rubenstein


        Imagination is more important than knowledge...
        It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education... Albert Einstein




        ________________________________
        From: Tom Frazier <wildewudu@...>
        To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 1:57:48 PM
        Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] WEBBING STRAPS


        Well, I looked on their website (my brother needs to get a couple as he's finally building himself a hammock now)....and they require a minimum order of $25...which means I'd have to order 18 of these cinch buckles at the same time! lol...I'll have to look at what else the site offers to see if I can get it up to $25, heh.

        T3

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Arye P. R.
        To: hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com
        Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:27 PM
        Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] WEBBING STRAPS

        the same adjusters are less at

        <http://www.dj- associates. com/index. html>

        All Categories > Buckles, Loops, Slides > Adjuster > View Items

        <http://djassociates .thomasnet. com/viewitems/ buckles-loops- slides/adjuster? &forward= 1>

        101- 1" Adjuster 1 Inch $1.42
        101- SS Stainless Steel Adjuster 1 Inch $1.99

        ============ =======

        and from <www.paragear. com> under hardware - page 2

        Item: H3361" QUICK FIT ADAPTER - 101
        Same
        as No.
        H337 except this fits 1" wide webbing.
        Shipping Weight: 3 oz. (85g).
        Quantity
        Price Discounts:
        Price: 1
        to 5 $2.50 6
        to 19$2.15 20 or more$1.75

        Sapere Aude,

        Arye P. Rubenstein

        Imagination is more important than knowledge...
        It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education... Albert Einstein

        ____________ _________ _________ __
        From: Tom Frazier <wildewudu@charter. net>
        To: hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com
        Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:23:50 PM
        Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] WEBBING STRAPS

        Onrope1 is where I got my cinch buckle for the 1" webbing support system I use. I *love* these things!!!
        http://www.onrope1. com/store/ index.php? p=product& id=118&parent= 4 Just checked out their website again; when I ordered six (made claytor-clone hammocks for my son and wife as well as myself) of these the min. order was five; apparently they lowered the min. order to 4. I definitely intend on buying more of these. They're awesome!

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Arye P. R.
        To: hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com
        Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:30 AM
        Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] WEBBING STRAPS

        <http://www.onrope1. com/store/ index.php? p=catalog& parent=29& pg=1>

        onrope1 is another good source for webbing rope and hardware.

        Sapere Aude,

        Arye P. Rubenstein

        Imagination is more important than knowledge...
        It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education... Albert Einstein

        ____________ _________ _________ __
        From: Arye P. R. <aprarye@ameritech. net>
        To: hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com
        Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:41:31 AM
        Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] WEBBING STRAPS

        "V" ring adjuster is a type of adjustable locking buckle with a V ring or an O ring to tie of to or insert a hook into. They are typically used on parachute harnesses and rescue rigging belts and slings. Firemen have them on their air bottle harnesses too.

        check out the hardware near the bottom of page 1 and through pg 2. The name on the title is "V" RING QUICK FIT BAR"

        <http://www.paragear .com/templates/ parachutes. asp?group= 243&parent= 34&level= 2>
        ------------ --------- ----
        DJ Associates has the same products at somewhat better prices but do not sew for you.

        Fort Smith, AR 72903
        (479) 452-3987
        <dj-associates. com>

        <http://djassociates .thomasnet. com/viewitems/ military- hardware/ adjusters? &forward= 1>

        Sapere Aude,

        Arye P. Rubenstein

        Imagination is more important than knowledge...
        It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education... Albert Einstein

        ____________ _________ _________ __
        From: Sandy Kramer <sandykayak@ yahoo. com>
        To: hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com
        Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:11:44 AM
        Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] WEBBING STRAPS

        what's a "V" ring adjuster??

        sandy in miami

        --- In hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com, "Arye P. R." <aprarye@... >
        wrote:
        >
        > While there is nothing wrong with the ENO Slap Straps there are
        other designs out there that give better adjustablity, both pre-made
        and home made/designed, and when homemade or home designed are sewn
        professionally can suit you better.
        > I've delt with <http://www.paragear .com> outside Chicago and they
        are great, they have all the hardware, webbing and fabric you may
        need and will sew it for you. They may be a bit more expensive than
        others but I got what I wanted and how I designed it. I do have the
        advantage of living about 5 miles from them and would drive by almost
        everyday to/from work. Or just buy the materials elsewhere and have
        your local shoe repair guy sew the straps.
        >
        > 2-15ft lengths of webbing with loops at one end of each and a pair
        of 'V' ring adjusters are all you need. Put a twist in the loop b4
        sewing for easier and better use.
        >
        > BTW I'm on a motorcycle so the weight doesn't matter as much.
        >
        > Sapere Aude,
        >
        > Arye P. Rubenstein
        >

        > ____________ _________ _________ __
        > From: Sandy Kramer <sandykayak@ ...>
        > To: hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com
        > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:17:48 PM
        > Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] WEBBING STRAPS
        >
        > Comments on these? The sewn loops give adjustability
        >
        > http://www.amazon. com/eno-SlapStra p-Hammock- Suspension-
        > Systems/dp/B001CB05 56/ref=sr_ 1_1?ie=UTF8& s=garden&
        qid=1233087268& sr=1-
        > 1#productPromotions
        >
        > sandy in miami
        >

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