Measure of the ropes

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• Hi! What is the measure of the ropes you use in the hammocks? Thanks and greetings from Brazil! Alberto.
Message 1 of 12 , Aug 18, 2008
Hi!

What is the measure of the ropes you use in the hammocks?

Thanks and greetings from Brazil!
Alberto.
• ... ..from one tree to another ? There is a chance I m not understanding your question. Mark
Message 2 of 12 , Aug 18, 2008
> What is the measure of the ropes you use in the hammocks?

..from one tree to another ?

There is a chance I'm not understanding your question.

Mark

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Flávio <arrozcompequi@...> wrote:
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> What is the measure of the ropes you use in the hammocks?
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> Thanks and greetings from Brazil!
> Alberto.
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• If you mean the ropes tied to each end of the hammock, it varies. I like to use separate tree straps and then tie the rope that is attached to the end of the
Message 3 of 12 , Aug 18, 2008
If you mean the ropes tied to each end of the hammock, it varies. I like to
use separate tree straps and then tie the rope that is attached to the end
of the hammock to the tree strap. I only need about 10 feet (about 3m) on
each end of the hammock at the most. Some people just use one long piece of
webbing tied to each end of the hammock and then tie that directly to the
tree. Then you would probably need to be about 15 feet (about 4.6m) long to
have enough to work with. If your forests have a lot more trees that are
close together, you might be able to use less rope; if they are further
apart, you may need more. Hope that helps.

Doug Campbell

On 8/18/08, Flávio <arrozcompequi@...> wrote:
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> What is the measure of the ropes you use in the hammocks?
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> Thanks and greetings from Brazil!
> Alberto.
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• Another interpretation of measure is diameter, load, and material. The Hennessey Ultralight-Backpacker Asym comes with spectra ropes. From one end of the
Message 4 of 12 , Aug 18, 2008
Another interpretation of measure is diameter, load, and material.

The Hennessey Ultralight-Backpacker Asym comes with spectra ropes. From
one end of the hammock to the end of the rope, it is 265 cm. So, there
are two lengths of rope 265 cm long. This spectra is about 3 mm in
diameter. This spectra does not tie directly to the trees. There is a
2.5 cm wide webbing about 124 cm long that wraps around the trees. The
rope ties to the webbing. The hammock is rated for 200 lbs (about 90
kilos).

For Taiwan's trees, I find the webbing is about short. The spectra,
however, is usually more than long enough.

CL
• I use 15 foot long 1 webbing straps on either end of my hammock. ... From: Flávio To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 11:07 AM
Message 5 of 12 , Aug 18, 2008
I use 15 foot long 1" webbing straps on either end of my hammock.

----- Original Message -----
From: Flávio
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 11:07 AM
Subject: [Hammock Camping] Measure of the ropes

Hi!

What is the measure of the ropes you use in the hammocks?

Thanks and greetings from Brazil!
Alberto.

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• The webbing I use has a 4,000 lb. (19 kilonewtons) per linear foot strength and comes in package of 30 feet (http://www.rei.com/product/752375 ), which I
Message 6 of 12 , Aug 18, 2008
The webbing I use has a 4,000 lb. (19 kilonewtons) per linear foot strength and comes in package of 30 feet (http://www.rei.com/product/752375 ), which I cut into two 1" wide straps 15' long. On one end of both straps I sew in a 6" loop, to which I attach a carabiner for a super quick tree hugger system. The other ends of the straps go into 1" cinch buckles (http://www.onrope1.com/store/index.php?p=product&id=118&parent=29) which are, in turn, tied to the hammock with a smaller accessory rope rated at 925lbs. per linear foot. Everything is at least climbing rated.

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• I also have 15 feet (4.6 meters) of 1 inch (25mm) Tubular Webbing for each side of the hammock, similar to Tom s set up. But the 1 inch (25mm) Tubular Webbing
Message 7 of 12 , Aug 19, 2008
I also have 15 feet (4.6 meters) of 1 inch (25mm) Tubular Webbing for each side of the hammock, similar to Tom's set up.
But the 1 inch (25mm) Tubular Webbing is from the same place as the 1" cinch buckles for .25 / foot (30.5 cm) - 30 feet~10 Meters = 7.50

Sapere Aude,

Arye P. Rubenstein

Imagination is more important than knowledge...
It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education... Albert Einstein

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From: Tom Frazier <wildewudu@...>
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:47:20 AM
Subject: Re: [X-Spam]Re: [Hammock Camping] Measure of the ropes

The webbing I use has a 4,000 lb. (19 kilonewtons) per linear foot strength and comes in package of 30 feet (http://www.rei com/product/ 752375 ), which I cut into two 1" wide straps 15' long. On one end of both straps I sew in a 6" loop, to which I attach a carabiner for a super quick tree hugger system. The other ends of the straps go into 1" cinch buckles (http://www.onrope1 com/store/ index.php? p=product& id=118&parent= 29) which are, in turn, tied to the hammock with a smaller accessory rope rated at 925lbs. per linear foot. Everything is at least climbing rated.

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• 12 feet long, 1 inch webbing. Risk
Message 8 of 12 , Aug 19, 2008
12 feet long, 1 inch webbing.

Risk

Tom Frazier wrote:
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> Subject: [Hammock Camping] Measure of the ropes
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> What is the measure of the ropes you use in the hammocks?
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> Thanks and greetings from Brazil!
> Alberto.
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• Hi! Do you just use straps to fix the hammocks? Why not ropes? When do you buy the hammock attached net+tarp (like the products from Clark Jungle, Hennessy,
Message 9 of 12 , Aug 20, 2008
Hi!

Do you just use straps to fix the hammocks? Why not ropes?

When do you buy the hammock attached net+tarp (like the products from Clark
Jungle, Hennessy, etc), how much ropes/straps come with them? Do you need to
buy another ones because is not enough or they do the job?

Thank you very much!

_____

De: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com]
Em nome de Rick
Enviada em: terça-feira, 19 de agosto de 2008 09:57
Para: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Assunto: Re: [Hammock Camping] Measure of the ropes

12 feet long, 1 inch webbing.

Risk

Tom Frazier wrote:
> I use 15 foot long 1" webbing straps on either end of my hammock.
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> To: hammockcamping@ <mailto:hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com>
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> Subject: [Hammock Camping] Measure of the ropes
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> What is the measure of the ropes you use in the hammocks?
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> Thanks and greetings from Brazil!
> Alberto.
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• Hi! Do you just use straps to fix the hammocks? Why not ropes? When do you buy the hammock attached net+tarp (like the products from Clark Jungle, Hennessy,
Message 10 of 12 , Aug 20, 2008
Hi!

Do you just use straps to fix the hammocks? Why not ropes?

When do you buy the hammock attached net+tarp (like the products from
Clark Jungle, Hennessy, etc), how much ropes/straps come with them? Do
you need to buy another ones because is not enough or they "do the job"?

Thank you very much!

--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, Rick <ra1@...> wrote:
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> Tom Frazier wrote:
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> > To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 11:07 AM
> > Subject: [Hammock Camping] Measure of the ropes
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> > Thanks and greetings from Brazil!
> > Alberto.
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• ... Most folks stay away from small diameter rope that would tend to damage tree bark. Some folks use small diameter rope with smaller pieces of webbing and
Message 11 of 12 , Aug 21, 2008
--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, Flávio <arrozcompequi@...> wrote:
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> Hi!
>
> Do you just use straps to fix the hammocks? Why not ropes?
>
> When do you buy the hammock attached net+tarp (like the products from
> Clark Jungle, Hennessy, etc), how much ropes/straps come with them? Do
> you need to buy another ones because is not enough or they "do the job"?
>
> Thank you very much!
>

Most folks stay away from small diameter rope that would tend to
damage tree bark. Some folks use small diameter rope with smaller
pieces of webbing and let the webbing make contact with the tree while
the rope attaches to that webbing (and call that small piece of
webbing a tree hugger).

Others just use all webbing and no ropes at all.

And some may use larger diameter rope hollow braid rope that flattens
out and doesn't dig into the tree bark as much.

There are various tradeoffs with all of these schemes. No matter what
approach, or scheme, you use it is advisable to use low stretch
suspension components that are strong enough to support you. The
forces on the suspension components can vary depending on how much you
weight and the sag (the angle your suspension rope,or webbing,

It might surprise you how much those forces can be. There are several
files in the FILES section that have information on those forces. I
have several under YOUNGBLOOD's STUFF. Generally, most folks end up
with roughly their body weight on each suspension line if they don't
use a structural ridgeline with their hammock and hang their hammock
with a moderate amount of sag. With a structural ridgeline, those
forces are generally higher and can be only moderately higher or much
higher depending on how you hang your hammock.

With rope or webbing you need a safety factor over the breaking
strength. Sometimes they are specified by their breaking strength and
other times they are specified by their safe working load (SWL). SWL
is the breaking strength with a safety factor applied to it.

Dave Womble
aka Youngblood AT2000
designer of the Speer Segmented Pad Extender, SnugFit Underquilt, and
WinterTarp
• Greetings, In answer to the question: When do you buy the hammock attached net+tarp (like the products from Clark Jungle, Hennessy, etc), how much ropes/straps
Message 12 of 12 , Aug 21, 2008
Greetings,

When do you buy the hammock attached net+tarp (like the products from
Clark Jungle, Hennessy, etc), how much ropes/straps come with them? Do
you need to buy another ones because is not enough or they "do the
job"?