Re: Hammock Camping Field use questions
Do you use the canopy that comes with the hh or did you get a custom
job like sgt rock ?
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Shane Steinkamp"
> > 1) The tree straps seem way too short. According to the HHloops - you
> > web site's setup recommendations, you'd need to restrict
> > yourself to a 4" diameter tree to get the strap around
> > twice. They seem woefully inadequate for real field use.
> > If I want a longer strap it means I have to drive to REI
> > (or order it) and spend time sewing up the ends. Is that
> > what you guys have done?
> You can make your own straps, but you don't have to stitch the
> can just tie a water knot.that
> In reality, though, you don't need longer straps. While I wish
> Hennessy would provide them as standard equipment, the 42" theysend you is
> adequate. (They do offer longer straps, but you have to orderthem or
> request them when ordering the hammock.)as far as
> When using them around trees that are too big, you just use them
> they go. You can either use a fisherman's knot or the 'regular'figure 8
> knot in this configuration. I have a picture of this in myExplorer Deluxe
> A-Sym Initial Report on backpackgeartest.org. We've got prettybig trees
> down here in most of the places I camp, and I've never actuallyhad real
> trouble.Get the
> > 2) What do you do if you're setting up this thing in the
> > rain? According to the design specs, the hammock goes up
> > first, and the tarp attaches to the hammock line.
> That's just a one time job. After that, leave the tarp attached.
> Snakeskins. They ARE worth it, although they can take somegetting used to.
> There is a page on my website that gives detailed instructions.See:
> I also talk about this in the Field and Long Term Explorer Deluxe
> reports on BGT.Snakeskins,
> > 3) If it's raining when you get into camp and you haven't
> > eaten dinner yet, what then? (Sometimes I eat dinner on
> > the trail then hike more, but not always). Set up the tarp
> > alone in-between two trees, cook under there, then set up
> > the hammock beneath? What about if it's raining in the
> > morning and the designated breakfast requires cooking (or
> > you're a tea addict like me?) The hammock has to come
> > down before any of this happens.
> When you want to cook, simply string the hammock up, retract the
> and set the tarp. Grab the hammock bed, roll it up, and tuck itover the
> ridge cord out of your way.buddies even
> I've never had a faster or easier setup than using the HH with the
> Snakeskins in this way. I can be out of my wet gear before my
> have their tarps or tents pitched.hammock
> > In rain or colder weather, I often cook from my sleeping
> > bag. I don't see any way of doing this while using a
> > hammock. This restricts hammock camping to only the
> > warmest of days or nice-weather days, at least for my
> > style.
> You just have to think ahead. Your alcohol stove is ideal for
> cooking. When you wake up in the morning, just switch ends in thehammock
> so that your head is at the foot end. Dangle an arm out of theentrance
> slit, light your stove, and put your water on. Of course, thestove needs
> to be off a little to one side or the other. It takes somegetting used to
> in order to successfully carry off this monkey stunt, but it'seasy enough
> once you figure it out.hammock, take
> If you really can't get the hang of that, then get out of the
> your morning whiz, pull the sleeping pad out, put it on theground, pull
> your sleeping bag out, put it on the pad, roll the hammock bed andtuck it
> over the ridge cord, then get back in the sleeping bag to makeyour tea.
> I haven't used the Hennessy in severely cold weather, but another
> be to get out, take your morning whiz, and drop the hammocksuspension lines
> until the hammock bed is resting on the ground. Crawl back intothe hammock
> bed and your sleeping bag, turning it around so that you wind upwith you
> head at the entrance slit end, and cook like you were in a bivy.You could
> conceivably do this for dinner as well, and then raise thesuspension ropes
> when it's time for bed.It's a
> Of course, this is all with the HH and the bottom entry slit.
> complication you pay for with the HH. With a 'normal' top entryhammock,
> like a Speer Hammock, or any number of other hammocks, you simplydangle
> over the edge and cook. Don't get any misconceptions, however,this is just
> as much a monkey trick as with the HH. I've ditched myself out ofa hammock
> from time to time with this trick.just as
> Like I said before, I'm not too keen on doing this anymore. I'd
> soon get up, stow the hammock bed over the ridge cord, put myground cloth
> down (yes, I carry one even when hammocking) put my pad down, sitdown, and
> drape my sleeping bag over my shoulders and wrap it around me.I'm still
> toasty warm, but I don't have any of the safety issues mentionedpreviously.
> > It's not just about sleeping or keeping warm. I can see
> > that hammock camping requires a fundamental shift in
> > approach and thinking about how camp activities are done.
> > I would appreciate detailed stories about how these
> > obstacles are dealt with by you guys that are sold
> > on it.
> You'd think so, but the fundamental shift is actually an
> hammock setup is just a tarp, like any other tarp, with theaddition of the
> hammock bed. The hammock bed rolls up and tucks under the ridgecord, you
> can put it out of your way for cooking or other chores. Thinkabout it - if
> you removed the hammock bed, you'd just have a tarp with a ridgecord.
> Don't let the addition of the hammock bed throw you off. I carrya diamond
> shaped ground cloth when hammocking. This is for when I have touse the
> hammock as a bivy when I can't hang it. This ground cloth allowsme to
> simply setup like a 'normal' tarp, however for cooking or doingother camp
> chores that are a pain to do in the hammock itself.irritating
> I tend to be one that doesn't mind the cold, so I'm not into
> myself by cooking inside my sleeping bag. I rarely do this anymore because
> I have found it to be dangerous - and to my mind it would be evenmore
> dangerous with a liquid fuel stove of any kind. The last placeyou want to
> be when you find yourself set on fire is zipped up in a sleepingbag. One
> man died recently in just such a situation.temperature
> Having said that, I've also given up hiking in the cold. If the
> is going to be below zero, I just won't go out anymore. It justisn't worth
> it to me anymore. That doesn't mean that hammock camping isimpossible,
> though. I've slept in a hammock all the way down to -29 degrees.On that
> trip I was using a closed cell foam pad about 5/8 inch thick,wrapped in
> thin plastic, which was then wrapped in two wool blankets. I wastoasty
> warm, but I also had ALL my clothes on, and a slightly complicatedtarp
> setup. (This also meant that I had a heavy sledge to pull duringthe day,
> but that's better than carrying a heavy pack.)aren't
> Regular camp chores are easy. If the weather is good, then there
> many tricks. If the weather is bad, then the hammock rig actuallyshines.
> When you're soaked to the bone, it's really nice to be able to setthe
> hammock up, strip everything off and hang it on the ridge cord todry, then
> have a dry place to sit and relax for awhile. I really appreciatethis
> during lunch breaks in the rain, which is frequent down here inthe early
> afternoon. My non-hammocking hiking buddies (heathens!) arealways envious
> when I set the hammock up as a lounger for rainy lunch breaks.They also
> appreciate it when I let them sit under me rather than huddlemiserably in
> their ponchos...NOT be
> The lounge chair configuration works with ALL hammocks and should
> overlooked. It is, in my opinion the second best thing abouthammock
> camping. It will literally drive your hiking buddies green withenvy that
> you set your shelter up at EVERY break and have a sheltered placeto sit.
> In addition, you can set up camp everywhere that they can, andMANY more
> places that they cannot.becomes
> Hammocking doesn't make you better than them, but it quickly
> apparent that it makes you smarter... Everybody might out hikeyou, but you
> out sleep them - and in the end sleep is the third most importantI've
> consideration on long hikes, following hydration and nutrition.
> actually seen more long distance hikers wash out due to improperrest than
> anything else - but it's a statistic that you never seementioned. Long
> after your buddies have exhausted themselves, you will still besleeping
> well at night, and that makes an incredible difference in yourmood and your
> hike.are a few
> There are a lot of pages available for a lot of 'tips and tricks'.
> Definitely peruse Sgt. Rock's website: www.hikinghq.net. There
> pages on my website too, besides the How To Hennessy Hammock pages.
<snort> Not nearly as hard as I will the first time I get to do it! Of course, that will be after the initial shock of finding myself asleep on the roof of my hammock wears off ROTFL!
Abnormality is THE normality at this locality
From: colonelcorn76 [mailto:colonelcorn76@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: Hammock Camping Field use questions
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> No offense but how the hell did you do THAT????????? I¡Çve had
> a good rock but it has NEVER rolled - course, I also tie the sides
Dunno or I wouldn't have done it twice more. I figure I probably
rolled over a couple or few times over the course of the night. I
like starting to fall asleep on my back until I'm just dropping off
when I roll over onto my side. I think I roll back on my back during
the night and then back on my side. If the roll is violent enough
it's possible to yank the tie-out if I haven't done an appropriate
knot (the elastic doesn't really hold a taughtline hitch very well).
I'm gonna laugh my ass off when you do it the first time.
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