## Re: [Hammock Camping] Which hammock and bag for cold and warm weather?

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• Temp conversion: some benchmarks to remember 100C =212 boiling water 40C =104 you are in the desert {Pass the water) 35C = 95 Hot - near body temp 30C =
Message 1 of 40 , Feb 10, 2008
Temp conversion:
some benchmarks to remember

100C =212 boiling water

40C =104 you are in the desert {Pass the water)
35C = 95 Hot - near body temp
30C = 86 Call it 85 Warm
20C = 68F call it ~70 Nice
10C = 50F cool
0 C = 32F frozen water
-10C =14F really cold / cold enough yet?
-20C = -4F what are you doing out?

or if you really need accuracy
<http://www.onlineconversion.com/temperature.htm>
or if you prefer a chart
<http://www.temperatureworld.com/ctable1.htm>

want some benchmarks for weights and measures too?

Sapere Aude,
Arye P. Rubenstein

Imagination is more important than knowledge...
It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education.

Albert Einstein

----- Original Message ----
From: Cara Lin Bridgman <caralinb@...>
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2008 10:04:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] Which hammock and bag for cold and warm weather?

Sorry, I usually try to do that... I find I cannot convert and the
values in one system have no meaning compared to the same values in
another system: i.e. I 'know' that 12*C means it's time for me to wear a
hat and that 90*F is HOT, but I cannot convert them and the 52*F and
32*C do not have any meaning to me. This is probably because I use
Celsius when in Taiwan at elevations >2000 m (>6300 feet) and I use
Fahrenheit when in the Kentucky in the summer. I carry around a little
slide-rule for metric-English conversions: it's called, of all things, a
Universal ENGLISH/SI (metric) Datalizer, printed in USA in 1976.

> For one recent on-the-ground camping trip, I found the 3/4 length
thermarest and the No-Sniveler kept me warm enough at temperatures
near 0*C. I had considered carrying both quilts for I'm very sensitive
to cold, but was delighted to find that just one kept me toasty.

> One thing I have learned about humidity, though, is that when it is
really humid (>80%), you need a bag rated for much cooler than the
lowest temperature you will really experience. I live and hike in
Taiwan and rarely experience temperatures cooler than 0*C, but I carry
a bag rated for -15*C.

I sort of made up the bag ratings, since I've not seen them published on
bags sold here in Taiwan. What I do know is that I buy the 'warmest
down bag' available (many, if not most, down bags are made here in
Taiwan) and I'm still cold when temperatures get to 0*C is about 32*F.
I attribute this to the humidity and the fact I tend to start out
sleeping cold.

Anyway, the fact the No-Sniveler worked so well as a quilt on one trip
impressed me. I think the thinness of the rip-stop nylon used to make
the quilt greatly improves it's ability to 'breathe,' reducing the
amount of water vapor retained from one night to the next.

CL

C C Wayah wrote:
> Can you change the Celsius degrees of your Hennessey to Farenheight for us
> non metric types.

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• Since the weather usually comes here from the west/ south & north Lake Effect snow doesn t happen here as much as it does to Northern Indiana, Michigan State
Message 40 of 40 , Feb 13, 2008
Since the weather usually comes here from the west/ south & north 'Lake Effect' snow doesn't happen here as much as it does to Northern Indiana, Michigan State and points East of Lake Michigan. This is because there aren't major bodies of water to the west to feed the snow. The most apparent and often 'Lake Effect' is during the summer as it is 'cooler by the lake' (up to 1mi inland) and in the winter it is warmer by the lake (~5-10 degrees).

still no overnight camping on the lakefront or in anywhere I know of in the metro area (25-35 mile radius from downtown) though. But there are lots of out of the way forested areas where you cant be seen.

weight 100grams (g) = ~3.5 ounces 1/2 an ounce short of a 1/4 pound (a nice sandwich)
Liquid 1 cup / 8oz = about 1/4 liter (L) 250milliliter (ml) actual
distance 1Km = .6 mi This also applies to MPH vs. KPH
10Km = 6 mi
100Km = 60 mi

Sapere Aude,
Arye P. Rubenstein

----- Original Message ----
From: C C Wayah <ccwayah@...>
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:56:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] Which hammock and bag for cold and warm weather?

Absolute Zero....
WISE DECISION I'm sure you would be missed !
>Thank you!

While Chicago does have a breeze (most notable in the near north / downtown
area near the river), the moniker the "Windy City" comes from the long
winded politicians past and current.
>I was also thinking of the words Lake Effect! Double applications seams to
>be the operative with hikers.

MS Why

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