Re: [Hammock Camping] Re: Survival/emergency topics, was Solar Stills
- --- dt king <whipmaker@...> wrote:
> Avoiding a dangerous survival situation is a far underrated skill.This is exactly why we're doing our planning! We've been accumulating various gear for quite some
> Most often, experienced trekkers don't need to start a fire with
> sticks, because they brought three other ways of making a fire.
time, and practicing their use at our "permanent" campsite in a private campground. We've got
propane fire starters, wind/stormproof butane lighters, small Bic lighters, and those one-handed
Swiss sparkers - and we've tested all of them!
Likewise with building shelters; carrying food and water; and so on. Just last month, we tried
out the pocket chain saw. We now know we can cut wood with it, if need be.
>This is exactly our opinion. We're actually working on packing a "bare essentials" kit for short
> The most dangerous hike you will ever undertake will start out as a
> short day hike. People going out for an afternoon in the woods don't
> pack the essentials for making it through the night, so missteps turn
> into tragedies.
hikes - say, three hours or less. Then, add-ons for day hikes - this is where we'll pack the
hammock. Even more gear when kayaking or rafting or wilderness sightseeing by plane or other
vehicle, where carrying the weight isn't so much of an issue, but there may be other people along
who won't be so prepared...
>That's the plan. I really like the hammock for the flexibility of being able to set up a basic
> Don't hit the trail without the minimum gear to survive the night for
> each of you. Know how to use it without thinking. Hypothermia and
> dehydration make everybody stupid.
camp in places that wouldn't be suitable for ground sleeping. We've been taking short hikes
lately, observing our environment, and practicing "what if" thinking. If one of us were injured,
where could we set up a basic "camp"? Where could we hang the hammocks? Build a fire? Get
water? It's an interesting exercise, and it seems on each hike we come up with something else to
think about when planning the next one...
But back to my original question - has anybody here had experience hammock camping in areas with
potential predators, like bears, coyote, etc? It makes sense to me that hammocks can be set up
away from established camps, thereby mitigating the opportunistic animal who has become accustomed
to going to the established sites for food. But has anybody been in a hammock and had an
encounter with an animal that happened upon them accidentally? What has the animal done? Do you
keep bear spray handy? Does being in the hammock help - or inhibit - your ability to react?
The Truly Educated Never Graduate
- Yep, a copious amount of clean water used to flush a wound (at
pressure if possible) is really all you need. some studies suggest
it's even potentially more destructive to the injured tissue to use
peroxide or other anit-bacterial cleaning agents.
Huh, good old mother nature provided H2O, how about that.
Another thing I find really interesting is that according to the
rescue peeps I've talked to most rescues occur within a 72 hour
period. That has changed the way I look at my "survival" kit.
Jamie in AZ
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, pure mahem <pure_mahem@...>
>and remove the towlettes now that I know this. The reason I went with
> Thanks for the info I will definately add the women's sanitary pad
clorox as a water treatment is that I remember reading in one of the
outdoor magazines or survival shows that overdosing iodine can be
potentially deadly where as the clorox has a bit more of a higher
fudge factor. another thing I thought of is that since I carry the
alcohol couldn't I dilute a bit of the gel in a bit of water and come
up with an applicalble antiseptic if needed? For the most part I guess
I always figured that I would just use my treated water as a flush if
I needed one.