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Re: Best material for making quilts for use inside the hammock

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  • Jon Davis
    Ah, I understand your question better now. From what i can tell from the product information there is basicly a curve of increased weight, increased comfort,
    Message 1 of 9 , Oct 16, 2007
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      Ah, I understand your question better now.
      From what i can tell from the product information there is basicly a
      curve of increased weight, increased comfort, for the same
      insulation value. the most insulative being the xp then hl then cl,
      the combad seems to fit in somewhere between xp and hl because it is
      the lightest insulation but has a mid level warmth to weight ratio.

      light, soft, warm. pick 2

      :)


      > Jon,
      >
      > I understand what you are saying. What I didn't have a good
      > understanding of was in reference to the various versions of
      > insulation that Climashield sells
      > http://www.climashield.com/products.php . They have their XP, HL,
      CL,
      > and Combat versions. Their specs indicate that the HL is the
      highest
      > lofting version and the XP has the most insulation per ounce... my
      > question was why would you use anything other than the XP since it
      has
      > the most insulation per ounce. Surely there are other tradeoffs
      > because if there wasn't... why would you need anything other than
      the
      > XP version? I was curious as to what those tradeoffs were. On
      their
      > product pages, they list the same 4 applications for all four
      > versions-- sleeping bags, outerwear, footwear, and gloves.
      >
      > Dave Womble
      > aka Youngblood 2000
      > Designer of the Speer Segmented Pad Extender, SnugFit Underquilt,
      and
      > Winter Tarp
    • C C Wayah
      I d be curious to know how each one compresses in the backpack for storage while hiking. Might be one is far too bulky???? Rogene ... From: Dave Womble
      Message 2 of 9 , Dec 16, 2007
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        I'd be curious to know how each one compresses in the backpack for storage
        while hiking.
        Might be one is far too bulky????
        Rogene

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Dave Womble" <dpwomble@...>
        To: <hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:32 AM
        Subject: [Hammock Camping] Re: Best material for making quilts for use
        inside the hammock


        > Jon,
        >
        > I understand what you are saying. What I didn't have a good
        > understanding of was in reference to the various versions of
        > insulation that Climashield sells
        > http://www.climashield.com/products.php . They have their XP, HL, CL,
        > and Combat versions. Their specs indicate that the HL is the highest
        > lofting version and the XP has the most insulation per ounce... my
        > question was why would you use anything other than the XP since it has
        > the most insulation per ounce. Surely there are other tradeoffs
        > because if there wasn't... why would you need anything other than the
        > XP version? I was curious as to what those tradeoffs were. On their
        > product pages, they list the same 4 applications for all four
        > versions-- sleeping bags, outerwear, footwear, and gloves.
        >
        > Dave Womble
        > aka Youngblood 2000
        > Designer of the Speer Segmented Pad Extender, SnugFit Underquilt, and
        > Winter Tarp
        >
        > --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Davis" <kohburn@...> wrote:
        >>
        >> When it comes to materials other than down loft does not equal
        >> insulative value. Think of foams, the more dense the foam tpically
        >> the higher the R value. With foams and often the hollow synthetic
        >> fibers the more dense it is the more small air pockets exist inside it
        >> that do not allow convection or conduction increasing the insulation
        >> value without lofting like down.
        >>
        >>
        >> --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Womble" <dpwomble@> wrote:
        >> >
        >> > Rodney,
        >> >
        >> > The 1.1 oz rip stop nylon with DWR is the standby for the down quilts
        >> > I have made. I think that is what most of the DIY crowd uses unless
        >> > they have some specific application where they want something more
        >> > water resistance or want to see just how light they can make something
        >> > with the lightest possible materials they can get their hands on.
        >> >
        >> > I haven't used synthetic insulation before. I am curious as to why
        >> > you are using different types of insulation for the warm and cold
        >> > weather quilts when you are using one layer on one and two layers on
        >> > the other. I have looked at the Climashield and was a little puzzled
        >> > with the different versions they had of it. They had one that had the
        >> > best insulative value per ounce but it wasn't the highest lofting
        >> > version. What do you gain by not using the best insulative value per
        >> > ounce version?
        >> >
        >> > Dave Womble
        >> > aka Youngblood 2000
        >> > Designer of the Speer Segmented Pad Extender, SnugFit Underquilt, and
        >> > Winter Tarp
        >> >
        >>
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