Re: Tarp Tent
- Rat is right, the tarp tent that I have is not only complicated to
make it is complicated to use. The way I've used mine I can justify
it's weight and bulk for the benefits it provides in cold conditions
but the setup and take down time is problematic as well as sloping
ground. It is not so bad in nice weather but that is not when I
want to use it as even in a high hung A-frame pitch it blocks more
view than I prefer. In nice weather it might double or even triple
the time it takes to mess with setting it up as a hammock tarptent
versus a decent size tarp; in bad weather that is significant and it
can get worse because in bad weather you don't operate as
efficiently and often have more trouble doing simple task correctly
the first time. Even take down time can be miserable when it is
cold and everything is wet because you can't really handle the tarp
and guylines with thick warm gloves on and after a certain amount of
time you have to stop and rewarm your hands before continuing.
It is kind of tantalizing because it is very nice to have a warmish
protected area when it is freezing cold and breezy to sleep in,
change clothes in and cook. I think you could use the old candle in
your cook pot routine to warm things up in the morning as well...
but there are these dang tradeoffs.
--- In email@example.com, "Rat" <hogn8r2004@...> wrote:
> Yes, I built the Youngblood tarp-tent. Jsut like his, and it works
> just the way you think it would from the pictures. I also built
> thought would be an improvement on it. A totally enclosed design I
> lovingly dubbed "The Tunnel of Hate", you can proly guess how that
> turned out. I also prototyped a convertable tarp system for total
> weather protection called "Uber-tarp". All of these were built
> 1.1 or 1.9 oz material, they were prototypes after all, and each
> been scrapped.
> My main reason for scraping all of these is very simple. They were
> COMPLICATED! 1) They all needed pretty much identical set up
> each time. And it's just not realistic to expect to find
> spot" evey time. 2) The Uber-tarp had 22 tie out points, that's
> of cord to keep up with, not to mention stakes. 3) The complexity
> the tarp-tent wasn't that bad, but it was more than the benefits.
> Uber-tarp was just way too complicated. Entry and Exit required
> a minute each. 4) Weight 5) Set up time was crazy long.
> One of the main benefits to me with a tarp and hammock system is
> relative ease of operation. Set-up, entry, exit and breaking are
> I was making it much too complicated.
> I finally settled on a 10 x 10 tarp and a weather sock (like
> and Risks Travel Pod). I have never gotten wet with just the tarp,
> I use the sock to cut the wind in extreme cold. This system is
> extremely flexible, simple and light.
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "chcoa" <jdeben@> wrote:
> > On that note would Youngblood be willing to sell a few of these
> > interested tree hangers. I have tried a simular set up to this
> > it worked great. I don't have any sewing skills however and
> > type of thing is not on the market to my knowledge.
> > How about it sir????
> > jamie in az
- On 10/7/06, tim garner <slowhike@...> wrote:
>Two of them together have been known to pick up small children....
> ralph... they`ll have to be the ones from farther south... or alaska, or
> the skeeters in n.c. aren`t big enough. ...tim
> PS... how big do they get in idaho?
takes about a dozen working together for a steer. :]
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