David, have you tried to eliminate the ring up next to the tree (to
save some weight). Using the ring and toggle you have you would
just start with your 20 foot strap folded in half. Face the tree
with your back pointed to the other tree. Take the center of your
strap and place it against the tree and pass both ends around the
tree. They will come out on the other side (opposite side they
started on but coming back toward you) but stay spread however wide
the tree is. Now take both ends but only put one through the ring
at your hammock and pull it to the proper (a guess) tightness. come
towards this strap with the other strap and have them lay directly
on top of each other only they will be headed in opposite
directions. place the ring on top and pull both straps up through
it and put the toggle in place. to avoid any possible sliding you
could just take the ends (now headed away from each other and tie a
bow (shoe knot) back across the top of the toggle.
or just sew a loop in the end of your strap (like you did to hold
the ring) only just pass the bitter end through it. this would make
a chocker. all adjustment would be made at the loop and toggle.
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, "Chinell, David F \(GE
Indust, Security\)" <david.chinell@...> wrote:
> Here's part two of my weekend experiments.
> Years ago, I started using the double-ring method in an attempt to
get easy adjustment without untying and retying knots. Later, I
decided to make the rings serve as drip rings as well, but I
couldn't always put the rings in the same location every time with
respect to my tarp (i.e. under it).
> Still the method isn't too shabby, and I'm gratified that some of
you are able to use it to good effect.
> This weekend, I was experimenting with a way to keep the bitter
end of the strap aligned so it wouldn't slide off to the side and
let the webbing slip. I discovered a new system that's a mystery to
me. I mean why it works is a mystery -- but it works. There are
photos in my folder, Bear's Pix. They're titled "ring-and-toggle."
> Here's a description. All the rings I used were 2-inch outside
diameter, but I'm pretty sure any size will do. In fact, I did a
couple of versions with an oval carabiner in place of a ring.
> I use hammocks with casings in both ends. To start, I replaced the
supplied hammock cord with a two-foot cord tied in a loop through
the casing. To this I attach a ring using a lark's head hitch. This
puts my hammock ring / drip ring at a constant distance of one foot
from the hammock end, no matter how far apart the trees are.
> My tree ropes for this experiment were two twenty-foot lengths of
1-inch polypropylene webbing. These have a loop tied in one end. I
also attach a ring to this loop, using a lark's head hitch.
> To hang the hammock, you start by attaching your tree ropes
however you prefer. The tree ropes handle all the variations of tree
diameter and separation. You just stop wrapping the tree when you
have three or four feet (however much you need to reach the hammock
and still have at least a foot of webbing to spare).
> Pass the bitter end through the hammock ring and pull it back
along the standing run. (The two sections of tree webbing are going
to lie on top of each other in the end.)
> When it's at the right spot, place a ring on top of the webbing,
reach through and pull up a loop of the double-thickness of webbing
(both the standing run and the bitter run). Insert a toggle through
the loop, and let the webbing pull the toggle down onto the ring.
Square and align everything.
> That's it.
> I was just trying to improvise a ladder buckle to position the
bitter end, but for fun I tested my weight on it. I was astonished
to find that it held my weight with utterly no slippage (and no
chance of misaligned webbing).
> Additional notes:
> I suppose what I'm making with the ring and toggle is a form of
ladder buckle, and that makes me wonder if a standard ladder buckle
would do the same job.
> In the pictures, you're looking at a three-inch length of 1/4-inch
diameter aluminum rod. I started off using 3/8-inch doweling, and
that worked fine too, though it put serious dents in the dowels
where they rested on the ring. So I just cut up some metal rod I had
> The parts are troublesome to keep track of. I'd like to find a rod
with a hole through it and tie it to the ring, so there's one less
thing to juggle.
> Toggle stick only - knotless knot
> Loooong ago I discovered a way to tie my tropical hammock using no
hardware, just a toggle stick. There's a diagram of that in my
Bear's Pix folder too. It requires a long loop of webbing through
the casing -- but that's how most tropical hammocks ship, anyway.
> As the diagram shows, you need a separate tree rope or tree
webbing. The bitter end of the loop from the hammock rope goes up
through the tree rope, down along the standing run. When it's
adjusted, you reach through the bitter end loop, pull up the two
strands of the standing run, and insert a toggle under them. To keep
the toggle from sliding up towards the tree, you throw a loop of the
standing run over both sides of the toggle.
> There. That's my weekend.
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