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731Re: Big Agnes Zirkel used in hammock down to 20F

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  • starnescr <starnescr@yahoo.com>
    Feb 25, 2003
      The difference here is your pad is not near as wide as Paul and I
      made ours but you are adding a reflectix and closed cell together.
      Just how wide is each pad? I used a similar setup a few weeks ago
      and sweated at 29 deg. My pad was the 3/8 closed cell from Target 27
      x 72. My reflectix was shorter 27 x 40 if I remember correctly. I
      wrote about it in my Crazy Crib (or was it my REI Down Time review)
      initial review on BGT. Anyway it has me thinking that my
      fleece/reflectic pad is wider (40 in) than I really need. Dean. Do
      your shoulders ever feel cool in you Big Agnes?

      I keep hearing how hammockers have to carry so much extra padding
      but as those who use reflectix know, the stuff is extreemly light.
      Bulky yes, heavy no. Paul we need to get a Garlington Insulator
      built before cold weather gets gone. (hint You need to get Linda
      busy sewing)

      Coy Boy

      --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "drdlm <drdlm@y...>"
      <drdlm@y...> wrote:
      > Paul:
      > Actually, I wear fleece in my set up. I wear fleece tops and
      > rather than put fleece in with the other two pads. The closed
      > pad measures about 1/2" in thickness and the Big Agnes Zirkel bag
      > rated to 20 degrees. By using the Zirkels envelope to put the pads
      > into may make a difference since you don't have to try and
      > your sleeping bag on top of the pads. As you move, the pads move
      > you. I have used this combination now on two late season trips
      > the Washington cascades where the elevation on both trips exceeded
      > 6800 feet and the temps dropped into the teens (not factoring in
      > chill) I was toasty warm. If you want a little more info about
      > of the trips you can access it here:
      > http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1117
      > This story has some info about our HH camping in the Enchantment
      > and a couple pics attached to the story. I also have several pics
      > that you can access with this first one showing the two pads as I
      > packed them on one of my trips:
      > or you can
      > read the thread at Sgt Rock's here:
      > http://hikinghq.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=356
      > Anyway, my system remains this: Big Agnes Zirkel / reflectix pad
      > to fit Big Agnes envelope / closed cell foam pad 1/2" thick (cut
      > fit) I wear the fleece tops/bottoms and this system worked great
      > me. Hopefully I have answered your question.
      > Dean
      > --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "biker135803
      > <pjbucca@c...> wrote:
      > > Dean,
      > > Sounds like you are using the fleece/reflectix combo with a
      > > closed cell pad much like Tom describes. What kind of closed
      > > foam pad are you using and how thick is it?
      > > I use Toms fleece/reflectix/closed cell pad combo in a TNF
      > Blue
      > > Kazoo and am comfortable down to about 35F and the combo is the
      > > limiting factor, not the sleeping bag. If your combo is similar
      > > what Tom describes, I guess I'm a bit puzzled because the only
      > > difference between your system and mine is the sleeping bag-or
      am I
      > > confused? Show me the error in my ways.
      > > Later, Paul
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