6263[Hammock Camping] Re: ZHammock Page
- Jul 6, 2004--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Rick <ra1@i...> wrote:
> Dave Womble wrote:I
> >I was a little curious about the advantage of using whipped ends.
> >think you mentioned before that you were not hemming the shortends
> >of the hammock when you used Ed's overhand knot but that you dohem
> >the short ends of the hammock when you use the whipped ends. Youcord
> >still use less fabric with the whipped ends, but you have added
> >to the whipped ends. Seems to me the overhand knot is easier tomake
> >and is known to be trouble free. Any idea of how much weight youare
> >saving using the whipped ends versus the overhand knot?The
> Weight saved in cloth is about an ounce. Actually 8/9 of 1.1 oz.
> weight of the cords I used is about half of that - half an ounce.light
> Almost all the weight savings could be retained by using a very
> whipping of heavy fishing line. But weight savings is not the bestconsider. I
> reason to consider whipped ends.
> There is the savings of the cost and bulk of the cloth to
> bought almost a yard less of material and saved about $4 ofmaterial
> cost. When I fold my hammock up, there is a little less bulk tostuff
> into the stuff sack.easy
> The other advantage is mainly for experimenters like me. It is as
> as duck soup to take the whipping off and make a change in thehammock.
> Having untied the overhand knots in hammocks many times, I don'tmind
> skipping the 15-30 minutes necessary to untie those nasty knots atall.
> Ray Garlington originally made the suggestion when he wasexperimenting
> with smooth curves in the end of the hammock with a goal of havingprocess
> better edge control. I have not tried those experiments, but can
> imagine how whipping the end of the hammock can make such a
> much easier.strap
> I am considering adding a second whipping that incorporates the
> and the hammock - that will be purely for the vanity of making thejoint
> look finished.is a
> However, at day's finish, whipping or tying the ends of the hammock
> flourish and not worth worrying about. For the addicted hammockfind
> builder, I suggest trying the whipping route as an experiment. I
> the improvement modest, but real. Only a year's worth ofexperience
> will tell me if the whipped end is as durable as the Speer overhandknot.
>Thanks Rick, I can appreciate untying the overhand knots as I too
have wore out my fingers on occasion. I guess any weight savings
using the whipping instead of the overhand knot will be a function of
the weight of the fabric and the width of the hammock. I say this
because the whipping requires hemmed ends and the amount of fabric
taken up would seem to be independent of fabric weight and hammock
width, where as with the overhand knot the hemmed end is not
necessary and the amount of fabric taken up with the knot will change
depending on the fabric weight and hammock width. What I am getting
at is that for some combination of fabric weight and hammock width,
the whipping technique could actually result in a heavier hammock.
For instance, if you used a single layer of 1.1 oz material for a 4
foot wide hammock it is not obvious to me that the whipped ends would
result in a weight savings... actually, when I try to back that out
using your estimates I suspect that the whipping would result in a
slightly heavier hammock. Just trying to do a little figuring, and
thanks again for the info.
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