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  • Robert Gochicoa
    Sep 22, 2009
      OMG. If the opt-in list for this forum has now convinced itself that death
      is no longer either in the immediate past or imminent future I think it's
      time to move on re: the subject line. You can do a redux on October 31 with
      hobgoblins and jack-o-lanterns.


      From: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com]
      On Behalf Of boardmanmw
      Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:24 PM
      To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [Hammock Camping] Re: Is this forum dead? (Suspension system)

      Here's my solution:
      Use polypro straps; mine are from Speer, rated at 750 lbs. I like to do the
      strap adjusting from the hammock end of the line, not the tree end. It's
      more convenient, and you only have to get next to the tree once, avoiding
      the branches, bugs, dew, sap etc.

      Sew (or tie) a 3inch loop in the end of your strap. Wrap that end of the
      strap around the tree (twice, if you have enough strap), then run the
      hammock end of the strap thru the loop and snug up against the tree. Done
      with that end, and no knot to worry about. The free end goes to the hammock.

      On each end of the hammock I use a 1.5 inch climbers descender ring (0.5 oz
      each). Instead of a Spear style knot in the hammock, I bunch the hammock end
      up, run it thru the ring a couple of inches, lay it over and whip it back on
      the hammock body with mason twine or thin nylon cord (could use the interior
      cords of gutted parachute line). Wrap the whipping tight as possible at
      least 1.5-2.0 inch, or more. The hammock material (assuming you are using
      some lightweight nylon), will lay thru the ring nicely, with no sharp edges
      and good stress distribution on the material. If the whipping is tight, the
      hammock material won't slip back thru the ring. If you're concerned about
      it, melt a small hole thru the bunched hammock material halfway down the
      whipping and run the whip cord thru the hole a couple of times, then
      continue the whipping. The whip cord will cover the hole, and now you've got
      a very positive connection between the hammock material and the whip cord. I
      stand 73 inches and weigh 215, and I've used this for the last 5 years
      without ever a failure. And that's without the thru hole.

      So now you have a hammock with descender rings at each end, with your
      hanging straps fixed to the trees--incidently with no overtightened knots at
      the tree end.

      To suspend the hammock, just run the strap thru the descender ring, then
      around and back thru the ring, so it goes thru the ring twice. Pull the
      slack thru until you've got the hammock curve you want, then just pull a
      loop of the strap over itself and snug up, like tieing a shoelace. The
      excess strap just hangs down, so it doesn't matter how much extra strap you
      have. When you tension the hammock (ie, get in)your weight pulls the knot up
      against the descender ring, and it won't slip, even if wet. If you only ran
      the strap thru the ring once, it might slip, but with two wraps thru the
      ring, the stress is on the wraps, not the knot. It holds with no slip, yet
      it's fully adjustable until you tie the slip knot.

      To disassemble, just hold the hammock in one hand, grab the free end of the
      strap and give it a good pull to undo the slip knot. If it's really tight,
      you might need to waggle the free end back and forth a time or two, but it
      will come loose easily, guaranteed. I've never had this system jam on me, or
      come loose when I didn't want it to. Then you just recover the two straps,
      roll 'em up and stash in the stow bag with the hammock itself.

      Best of all, it's easy to adjust the hang of the hammock to exactly the
      curve you want. Inevitably, I tie up, get in to test it, then want to tweak
      the curve a little. This system makes it really easy, since you're working
      at each end of the hammock, rather than all the way back at the tree ends.

      This is the ring I use: http://www.rei.com/product/471123 ,
      but you could use any qualified ring or a carabiner that's rated for the
      weight. These are cheap ($2.90 each at REI), compact and above all
      lightweight (0.5 oz). If you are concerned about ring failure, Omega Pacific
      sells a much more robust ring (http://www.rei.com/product/745608), but
      there's a size and weight trade off.

      Other advantages: The knot and ring act as water stops; any rain running
      down the strap hits the knot and diverts down the free end of the strap
      that's just hanging down; you don't need to tie a sock or cloth piece to
      prevent water draining down onto the hammock. Second, if you know you're
      headed to an area of very large diameter trees, you can make a second set of
      extra long straps to accomodate. Otherwise, use your shorter standard ones
      (mine are cut at 11 feet to save the extra weight-- and still longer than
      I've ever needed). But I've never hung in the Redwoods... One hammock,
      multiple sets of straps, as needed.

      I can post some pictures if there's any interest. Regards to all. Mike

      --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
      <mailto:hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com> , "Steven Bronstein" <steve@...>
      > The knot Ralph is referring to is sometimes called a Trucker's Hitch and ,
      > agree, it is a great solution.
      > One question I have is that when I wrap around the tree twice when you
      > up on the hitch you then have to adjust the strapping that is cinched
      > the tree to even out the pull and then your hammock adjustment has
      > I have been trying to come up with a more elegant solution so that you can
      > eliminate the fussing. Adding rings at the hammock loop and using a
      > carabiner around the tree works well but adds more weight.
      > I want to be able to pull till the curve in the hammock is correct and
      > tie it off and be done.
      > .
      > Steven Bronstein
      > Blackthorne Forge
      > Marshfield, VT 05658
      > phone/fax 802-426-3369
      > www.blackthorneforge.com

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