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19422Re: [Hammock Camping] Re: HH tree huggers & tree damage--correct links

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  • Arye P. R.
    Sep 8, 2008
      here is something Prepared by: Erv Evans, Consumer Horticulturist, NC State University on damage to trees and what to do.


      and something else from New Mexico State University College of Agriculture and Home Economics


      Sapere Aude,

      Arye P. Rubenstein

      Imagination is more important than knowledge...
      It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education... Albert Einstein

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      From: David Fox <amendment2@...>
      To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Monday, September 8, 2008 3:07:14 PM
      Subject: RE: [Hammock Camping] Re: HH tree huggers & tree damage--correct links

      I think that bark is a corky substance which can handle a lot of abuse because it is made to by nature. In a real forest trees get old and fall against other trees without killing the tree they fell against. In the northwestern United States I have seen pines with scorching 20 feet high on the bark and the trees are still alive. It is a common thing to scrape bark down to get a smooth flat surface on which to mark a blaze on the national trails. Bears claw bark, deer and elk rub their antlers on it. To me the issue isn�t whether the bark gets a mark on it. The issue is if the xylem and phloem ( the thin band of actual live tissue on the tree trunk where sap moves up and down) are disturbed. And further, for how long they can be disturbed, and whether that is permanent. A tree grows out each year by adding new cells in a shape roughly like an upside down ice cream cone to the existing tree. IF the living band is damaged, do the new cells grow over that
      area next year? Trees can grow completely over a barbed wire wrapped around it and live on. So to me, what does the hammock do to the inner living part of the tree is the real issue. That seems like a function of the thickness of the bark then.

      From: hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Cara Lin Bridgman
      Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:06 AM
      To: hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com
      Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] Re: HH tree huggers & tree damage--correct links

      Hi Graytatanka,

      That's rather what I was thinking--that I needed both wider and longer

      I guess I can look at this past trip as a well-documented case that
      hammocks, even with tree huggers, can damage trees. It's good to know.

      Before I left that camp, I took pictures of the footprints left by my
      hammock (marks on trees, but not much visible trampling of ground) and
      my husband's tent (flattened grass). I know from a previous trip, that
      it can take >4 days before flattend grass will perk back up--depends on
      the grass, sunlight, rainfall, etc. Unfortunately, the trees will hold
      the hammock scars for the rest of their lives--which are already much
      longer than mine. My marks are now added to the machete slices and huge
      scars (4-6 feet long, covering as much as half the circumfrence of the
      tree) where Taiwan's aborigines removed the bark to roof temporary


      gene fields wrote:
      > I got away from tree huggers years ago. I use re-cycled seat belts.
      > I retrieved seat belts from old wrecks in the junkyard, have a 4" loop sewn into each end I cut out of the car and one loop thru the other and with the buckle as the adjuster, I canhang from up to 30" diameter trees or as small as 6". Attach the hammock to a carabiner and then it to the protruding loop. Never saw damage to a tree in 15 years.
      > Greytatanka

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