18888Re: [Hammock Camping] Hammock Camping In the Eastern North West.
- Mar 27, 2008Thanks, for the information guys. Sorry, for the late reply but as
we all know work sucks.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Blake Robert <xflagstaff9@...>
> I have never lived in your new area but I have often
> visited there.
> In Spokane-there is a really nice park with camping on
> the Spokane River---both sides of the river are in the
> park. About a 1-2 mile drive from the nearest
> grocery-a nice base for enjoying Spokane. I was last
> there long before taking up hammock camping so I did
> not notice of the trees are right for hammocks---but,
> there are lots of trees.
> Couer d'Alene, Idaho (20 miles east of Spokane) is a
> wonderful place to visit with its lake. Adjacent to
> the big resort (ESE) is Tubbs Hill with three levels
> of trails-one crossing a cable suspension bridge. I
> saw Canadians picking blue berries there---they called
> them sasketoons. I assume that is Canadian for
> blueberry. I once saw a tent set up on the hill in
> plain sight of the resort parking lot so maybe camping
> is legal. At least, it is not posted. As of my last
> visit. If still not posted against camping-I would
> still be unobtrussive. I would set up camp after dark
> and break camp as it gets light in the morning. There
> is a National Forest campground just off the east
> shore of the lake-20 minutes drive past the city. I
> seem to recall that their ramada pipes MIGHT be
> suitable for hammocks. If not-the drive is not
> lost---just continue on the same dirt road as the USFS
> campground for disperssed camping with lots of trees.
> Coming back into town---there was a motel that had
> coin operated showers.
> I have not been in eastern Washington north of Spokane
> but I have been in nearby Idaho. Lots of trees and
> lakes-such as Round Lake and Priest Lake.
> If you wander south into Oregon----Wallawa Lake is a
> beautiful area. Not only is there Wallawa Lake State
> Park---but, the famous Mirror Lake is there---you'll
> see the postcards. That made me wish I had been
> carrying backpacking gear.
> One trip you HAVE to make is Whidbey Island. There are
> several nice parks there incl. the fortifications that
> were used in An Officer and a Gentleman. Remember the
> leading man doing pushups? Pensacola Naval Air Station
> (where I was born) would not let them film there so
> they went to Whidbey Island instead. You find the same
> type 1898 fortifications at Pensacola Bay.
> Leaving Whidbey by the Deception Pass Bridge-you will
> pass Erie Lake on your left. Take the next turn to the
> left-find the right bearing road to the top of Erie
> Mountain. One of the great views of the NW that can be
> reached easily by car. To the WSW you'll see the
> Olympic Mountain range, to the east you'll see the
> Cascades. If it is really clear-to the south you'll
> see Mt. Ranier just east of Tacoma. Folks from the
> east always tell me their mountains are just as high
> as western mountains in terms of rise from the
> surrounding terrain-but, Mt. Ranier rises to over
> 14,400 feet just 3-4 dozen (as-the-crow-flies) miles
> from high tide-line of the Bay---sea level.
> If I wasn't living in Flagstaff, I would envy you.
> No Lyme disease here. Be sure to close pants legs
> against Lyme disease carrying ticks. It has been many
> years since I stopped on a trail in Glacier Park and
> let deer lick the salty sweat off my hands and arms.
> RB: See below
> Mount Rainier
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> For other uses, see Mount Rainier (disambiguation).
> Mount Rainier
> Mount Rainier as viewed from the northeast.
> Elevation 14,411 ft (4,392 m)
> Location Washington State, USA
> Range Cascade Range
> Prominence 13,210 ft (4,026 m) Ranked 21st
> Coordinates 46°51′11.9″N
> 121°45′35.6″W / 46.853306,
> Topo map USGS Mount Rainier West
> Type Stratovolcano
> Volcanic arc/belt Cascade Volcanic Arc
> Age of rock 500,000 years
> Last eruption 1854
> First ascent 1870 by Hazard Stevens and P. B. Van
> Easiest route rock/ice climb via Disappointment
> Mount Rainier is an active stratovolcano (also
> known as a composite volcano) in Pierce County,
> Washington, located 54 miles (87 km) southeast of
> Seattle, Washington, in the United States. It is the
> highest peak in the Cascade Range and Cascade Volcanic
> Arc at 14,410 feet (4,392 m). The mountain and the
> surrounding area are protected within Mount Rainier
> National Park. With 26 major glaciers, Mount Rainier
> is the most heavily glaciated peak in the lower 48
> states with 35 square miles (91 km²) of permanent
> snowfields and glaciers. The summit is topped by two
> volcanic craters, each over 1,000 feet (300 m) in
> diameter with the larger east crater overlapping the
> west crater. Geothermal heat from the volcano keeps
> areas of both crater rims free of snow and ice, and
> has formed an extensive network of glacier caves
> within the ice-filled craters. A small crater lake,
> the highest in North America, occupies the lowest
> portion of the west crater below more than 160 feet
> (50 m) of ice and is accessible only via the caves.
> LocationMount Rainier was originally known as Talol,
> or Tahoma, from the Lushootseed word
> təqʷúʔbəʔ ("mother of
> waters") spoken by the Puyallup. It has a topographic
> prominence of 13,210 feet (4,026 m), greater than that
> of K2. It is a prominent feature of the southern
> landscape in most of the Seattle metropolitan area. On
> clear days, it can also be seen from as far away as
> Portland, Oregon, and Victoria, British Columbia.
> Because of its scenic dominance, Seattle-Tacoma-area
> residents often refer to it simply as "the Mountain."
> The Carbon, Puyallup, Mowich, Nisqually, and Cowlitz
> Rivers begin at eponymous glaciers of Mount Rainier.
> The sources of the White River are Winthrop, Emmons,
> and Fryingpan Glaciers. The White, Carbon, and Mowich
> join the Puyallup River, which discharges into
> Commencement Bay at Tacoma; the Nisqually empties into
> Puget Sound east of Lacey; and the Cowlitz joins the
> Columbia River between Kelso and Longview.
> Contents [hide]
> 1 Geological history
> 2 Human history
> 2.1 Naming controversy
> 3 Subsidiary peaks
> 4 Climbing and recreation
> 5 Washington state quarter
> 6 See also
> 7 References
> 8 External links
>  Geological history
> Mount Rainier's earliest lavas are over 840,000 years
> old and are part of the Lily Formation (2.9 million to
> 840,000 years ago). The early lavas formed a
> "proto-Rainier" or an ancestral cone prior to the
> present-day cone. The present cone is over 500,000
> years old. The volcano is highly eroded, with
> glaciers on its slopes, and appears to be made mostly
> of andesite. Rainier likely once stood even higher
> than today at about 16,000 feet (4,900 m) before a
> major debris avalanche and the resulting Osceola
> Mudflow 5,000 years ago.
> Hazard map
> One of many emergency evacuation route signs in case
> of volcanic eruption or lahar around Mt. Rainier.In
> the past, Rainier has had large debris avalanches, and
> has also produced enormous lahars (volcanic mudflows)
> due to the large amount of glacial ice present. Its
> lahars have reached all the way to the Puget Sound.
> Around 5,000 years ago, a large chunk of the volcano
> slid away and that debris avalanche helped to produce
> the massive Osceola Mudflow, which went all the way to
> the site of present-day Tacoma and south Seattle.
> This massive avalanche of rock and ice took out the
> top 1,600 feet (500 m) of Rainier, bringing its height
> down to around 14,100 feet (4,300 m). About 530 to 550
> years ago, the Electron Mudflow occurred, although
> this was not as large-scale as the Osceola Mudflow.
> After the major collapse 5,000 years ago, subsequent
> eruptions of lava and tephra built up the modern
> summit cone until about as recently as 1,000 years
> ago. As many as 11 Holocene tephra layers have been
> The most recent recorded volcanic eruption was between
> 1820 and 1854, but many eyewitnesses reported eruptive
> activity in 1858, 1870, 1879, 1882 and 1894 as
> well. As of 2008, there is no imminent risk of
> eruption, but geologists expect that the volcano will
> erupt again.
> Lahars from Rainier pose the most risk to life and
> property, as many communities lie atop older lahar
> deposits. Not only is there much ice atop the volcano,
> the volcano is also slowly being weakened by
> hydrothermal activity. According to Geoff Clayton, a
> geologist with RH2, a repeat of the Osceola mudflow
> would destroy Enumclaw, Kent, Auburn, and most or all
> of Renton. Such a mudflow might also reach down the
> Duwamish estuary and destroy parts of downtown
> Seattle, and cause tsunamis in Puget Sound and Lake
> Washington. According to USGS, about 150,000 people
> live on top of old lahar deposits of Rainier.
> Rainier is also capable of producing pyroclastic flows
> as well as lava.
> Northwest side of Mount Rainier seen from Tacoma.
> Liberty Cap is the visible summit from this view,
> sitting atop the Mowich Face.
> Mount Rainier from space
>  Human history
> The three summits of Mount Rainier: Liberty Cap,
> Columbia Crest, and Point SuccessMount Rainier was
> first known by the Native Americans as Talol, Tahoma,
> or Tacoma, from the Lushootseed word
> təqʷúʔbəʔ ("mother of
> waters") spoken by the Puyallup. At the time of
> European contact, the river valleys and other areas
> near the mountain were inhabited by many Pacific
> Northwest tribes who hunted and gathered berries in
> the forests and mountain meadows. These included the
> Nisqually, Cowlitz, Yakama, Puyallup, and Muckleshoot.
> Captain George Vancouver reached Puget Sound in 1792
> and became the first European to see the mountain. He
> named it in honour of his friend, Rear Admiral Peter
> In 1833, Dr. William Fraser Tolmie explored the area
> looking for medicinal plants. He was followed by other
> explorers seeking challenge. Hazard Stevens and P. B.
> Van Trump received a hero's welcome in the streets of
> Olympia after their successful summit climb in 1870.
> John Muir climbed Mount Rainier in 1888, and although
> he enjoyed the view, he conceded that it was best
> appreciated from below. Muir was one of many who
> advocated protecting the mountain. In 1893, the area
> was set aside as part of the Pacific Forest Reserve in
> order to protect its physical/economic resources:
> timber and watersheds.
> Citing the need to also protect scenery and provide
> for public enjoyment, railroads and local businesses
> urged the creation of a national park in hopes of
> increased tourism. On March 2, 1899, President William
> McKinley established Mount Rainier National Park as
> America's fifth national park. Congress dedicated the
> new park "for the benefit and enjoyment of the people;
> and...for the preservation from injury or spoliation
> of all timber, mineral deposits, natural curiosities,
> or wonders within said park, and their retention in
> their natural condition."
> In 1998, the United States Geological Survey began
> putting together the Mount Rainier Volcano Lahar
> Warning System to assist in the emergency evacuation
> of the Puyallup River valley in the event of a
> catastrophic debris flow. It is now run by the Pierce
> County Department of Emergency Management. Tacoma, at
> the mouth of the Puyallup, is only 37 miles (60 km)
> west of Rainier, and moderately sized towns such as
> Puyallup and Orting are only 27 miles (43 km) and 20
> miles (32 km) away, respectively.
>  Naming controversy
> 1907 Rainier Beer advertisementAlthough "Rainier" had
> been considered the official name of the mountain,
> Theodore Winthrop, in his posthumously published 1862
> travel book The Canoe and the Saddle, claimed the
> indigenous name of the mountain was "Tacoma" and
> afterwards, both names were used interchangeably,
> although "Mt. Tacoma" was preferred in the city of
> In 1890, the United States Board on Geographic Names
> declared that the mountain would be known as
> "Rainier". Following this in 1897, the Pacific Forest
> Reserve became the Mount Rainier Forest Reserve, and
> the national park was established two years later.
> Despite this, there was still a movement to change the
> mountain's name to "Tacoma" and Congress was still
> considering a resolution to change the name as late as
> After Rainier Brewing Company resumed producing
> "Rainier Beer" after the end of Prohibition and its
> advertisements became ubiquitous in the Seattle-Tacoma
> area, a rumor began circulating that the brewery's
> owner, Emil Sick, had bribed a Washington state
> committee with free beer to promote the name
> "Rainier". This, however, is an urban legend and can
> still be heard today among Tacoma residents who
> preferred the alternate name. Sick did, however,
> purchase the local baseball team and renamed them to
> be the Seattle Rainiers for this purpose.
>  Subsidiary peaks
> The broad top of Mount Rainier contains three named
> summits. The highest is called Columbia Crest. The
> second highest summit is Point Success, 14,158 feet
> (4,315 m), at the southern edge of the summit plateau,
> atop the ridge known as Success Cleaver. It has a
> topographic prominence of about 138 feet (42 m), so it
> is not considered a separate peak. The lowest of the
> three summits is Liberty Cap, 14,112 feet (4,301 m),
> at the northwestern edge, which overlooks Liberty
> Ridge, the Sunset Amphitheater, and the dramatic
> Willis Wall. Liberty Cap has a prominence of 492 feet
> (150 m), and so would qualify as a separate peak under
> most strictly prominence-based rules. A prominence
> cutoff of 400 feet (122 m) is commonly used in
> Washington state. However it is not usually
> considered a separate peak, due to the massive size of
> Mount Rainier, relative to which a 492 foot (150 m)
> drop is not very large.
> High on the eastern flank of Mount Rainier is a peak
> known as Little Tahoma, 11,138 feet (3,395 m), an
> eroded remnant of the earlier, much higher, Mount
> Rainier. It has a prominence of 858 feet (262 m), and
> it is almost never climbed in direct conjunction with
> Columbia Crest, so it is usually considered a separate
> peak. If considered separately from Mt. Rainier,
> Little Tahoma would be the third highest Mountain peak
> in Washington.
> Mountaineers descending from the summit avoid
> crevasses above Emmons Flats Camp.
>  Climbing and recreation
> Mountain climbing on Mount Rainier is difficult; it
> includes climbing on the largest glaciers in the U.S.
> south of Alaska. Most climbers require two to three
> days to reach the summit. Climbing teams require
> experience in glacier travel, self-rescue, and
> wilderness travel. About 8,000 to 13,000 people
> attempt the climb each year, about 90% via routes
> from Camp Muir on the southeast flank. Most of the
> rest ascend Emmons Glacier via Camp Schurman on the
> northeast. About half of the attempts are successful,
> with weather and conditioning being the most common
> reasons for failure. About three mountaineering deaths
> each year occur due to rock and ice fall, avalanche,
> falls, and hypothermia associated with severe weather.
> The north face of Mount Rainier (1932)Hiking,
> photography, and camping are popular in the park.
> Hiking trails, including the Wonderland Trail, a 93
> miles (150 km) circumnavigation of the peak provide
> access to the backcountry. Mount Rainier is also
> popular for winter sports, including snowshoeing and
> cross-country skiing. In summer, visitors pass through
> vast meadows of wildflowers, on trails emanating from
> historic Paradise Inn.
>  Washington state quarter
> The Washington state quarter, which was released on
> April 11, 2007, features Mount Rainier and a salmon.
>  See also
> Wikimedia Commons has media related to:
> Mount RainierMount Rainier National Park
> Mountain peaks of North America
> Mountain peaks of the United States
> Cascade Volcanoes
> Cascade Range
> --- Paul Marin <adventurenw32@...> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I'm new to hammock camping and can't wait to hit
> > the trail. I made the wonderful discovery of
> > hammock's in late 06 when I still lived on the East
> > Coast. I got to do 1 short trip to a State Park in
> > Va. (False Cape) with my shinny new hammock before
> > my wonderful wife announced that we were pregnant
> > and she wanted to move back home. Home took this
> > Southern East Coast Boy 2500 mile too "Inland"
> > Eastern Washington. I spent most of 07 working,
> > researching areas to hike and camp in, and playing
> > dad to be. Now, in 08 I've secured a couple of
> > hall passes but am still not sure of good locations
> > to go hammock camping at. Anyone, have an
> > suggestions, blogs, clubs, etc.. In Eastern
> > Washington they could point me to that can help me
> > find some good spots?
> > -Thanks
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