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  • adventurenw32
    Mar 27, 2008
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      Thanks, for the information guys. Sorry, for the late reply but as
      we all know work sucks.

      -Paul

      --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, Blake Robert <xflagstaff9@...>
      wrote:
      >
      > I have never lived in your new area but I have often
      > visited there.
      >
      > In Spokane-there is a really nice park with camping on
      > the Spokane River---both sides of the river are in the
      > park. About a 1-2 mile drive from the nearest
      > grocery-a nice base for enjoying Spokane. I was last
      > there long before taking up hammock camping so I did
      > not notice of the trees are right for hammocks---but,
      > there are lots of trees.
      >
      > Couer d'Alene, Idaho (20 miles east of Spokane) is a
      > wonderful place to visit with its lake. Adjacent to
      > the big resort (ESE) is Tubbs Hill with three levels
      > of trails-one crossing a cable suspension bridge. I
      > saw Canadians picking blue berries there---they called
      > them sasketoons. I assume that is Canadian for
      > blueberry. I once saw a tent set up on the hill in
      > plain sight of the resort parking lot so maybe camping
      > is legal. At least, it is not posted. As of my last
      > visit. If still not posted against camping-I would
      > still be unobtrussive. I would set up camp after dark
      > and break camp as it gets light in the morning. There
      > is a National Forest campground just off the east
      > shore of the lake-20 minutes drive past the city. I
      > seem to recall that their ramada pipes MIGHT be
      > suitable for hammocks. If not-the drive is not
      > lost---just continue on the same dirt road as the USFS
      > campground for disperssed camping with lots of trees.
      > Coming back into town---there was a motel that had
      > coin operated showers.
      >
      > I have not been in eastern Washington north of Spokane
      > but I have been in nearby Idaho. Lots of trees and
      > lakes-such as Round Lake and Priest Lake.
      >
      > If you wander south into Oregon----Wallawa Lake is a
      > beautiful area. Not only is there Wallawa Lake State
      > Park---but, the famous Mirror Lake is there---you'll
      > see the postcards. That made me wish I had been
      > carrying backpacking gear.
      >
      > One trip you HAVE to make is Whidbey Island. There are
      > several nice parks there incl. the fortifications that
      > were used in An Officer and a Gentleman. Remember the
      > leading man doing pushups? Pensacola Naval Air Station
      > (where I was born) would not let them film there so
      > they went to Whidbey Island instead. You find the same
      > type 1898 fortifications at Pensacola Bay.
      >
      > Leaving Whidbey by the Deception Pass Bridge-you will
      > pass Erie Lake on your left. Take the next turn to the
      > left-find the right bearing road to the top of Erie
      > Mountain. One of the great views of the NW that can be
      > reached easily by car. To the WSW you'll see the
      > Olympic Mountain range, to the east you'll see the
      > Cascades. If it is really clear-to the south you'll
      > see Mt. Ranier just east of Tacoma. Folks from the
      > east always tell me their mountains are just as high
      > as western mountains in terms of rise from the
      > surrounding terrain-but, Mt. Ranier rises to over
      > 14,400 feet just 3-4 dozen (as-the-crow-flies) miles
      > from high tide-line of the Bay---sea level.
      >
      > If I wasn't living in Flagstaff, I would envy you.
      >
      > No Lyme disease here. Be sure to close pants legs
      > against Lyme disease carrying ticks. It has been many
      > years since I stopped on a trail in Glacier Park and
      > let deer lick the salty sweat off my hands and arms.
      >
      > RB: See below
      >
      > Mount Rainier
      > From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
      > (Redirected from Mount Ranier)
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      > For other uses, see Mount Rainier (disambiguation).
      > Mount Rainier
      >
      > Mount Rainier as viewed from the northeast.
      > Elevation 14,411 ft (4,392 m)
      > Location Washington State, USA
      > Range Cascade Range
      > Prominence 13,210 ft (4,026 m) Ranked 21st
      > Coordinates 46°51′11.9″N
      > 121°45′35.6″W / 46.853306,
      > -121.759889
      > Topo map USGS Mount Rainier West
      > Type Stratovolcano
      > Volcanic arc/belt Cascade Volcanic Arc
      > Age of rock 500,000 years
      > Last eruption 1854
      > First ascent 1870 by Hazard Stevens and P. B. Van
      > Trump
      > Easiest route rock/ice climb via Disappointment
      > Cleaver
      > Mount Rainier is an active[1] stratovolcano (also
      > known as a composite volcano) in Pierce County,
      > Washington, located 54 miles (87 km) southeast of
      > Seattle, Washington, in the United States. It is the
      > highest peak in the Cascade Range and Cascade Volcanic
      > Arc at 14,410 feet (4,392 m). The mountain and the
      > surrounding area are protected within Mount Rainier
      > National Park. With 26 major glaciers, Mount Rainier
      > is the most heavily glaciated peak in the lower 48
      > states with 35 square miles (91 km²) of permanent
      > snowfields and glaciers. The summit is topped by two
      > volcanic craters, each over 1,000 feet (300 m) in
      > diameter with the larger east crater overlapping the
      > west crater. Geothermal heat from the volcano keeps
      > areas of both crater rims free of snow and ice, and
      > has formed an extensive network of glacier caves
      > within the ice-filled craters. A small crater lake,
      > the highest in North America, occupies the lowest
      > portion of the west crater below more than 160 feet
      > (50 m) of ice and is accessible only via the caves.
      >
      >
      > LocationMount Rainier was originally known as Talol,
      > or Tahoma, from the Lushootseed word
      > təqʷúʔbəʔ ("mother of
      > waters") spoken by the Puyallup. It has a topographic
      > prominence of 13,210 feet (4,026 m), greater than that
      > of K2. It is a prominent feature of the southern
      > landscape in most of the Seattle metropolitan area. On
      > clear days, it can also be seen from as far away as
      > Portland, Oregon, and Victoria, British Columbia.
      > Because of its scenic dominance, Seattle-Tacoma-area
      > residents often refer to it simply as "the Mountain."
      > [2]
      >
      > The Carbon, Puyallup, Mowich, Nisqually, and Cowlitz
      > Rivers begin at eponymous glaciers of Mount Rainier.
      > The sources of the White River are Winthrop, Emmons,
      > and Fryingpan Glaciers. The White, Carbon, and Mowich
      > join the Puyallup River, which discharges into
      > Commencement Bay at Tacoma; the Nisqually empties into
      > Puget Sound east of Lacey; and the Cowlitz joins the
      > Columbia River between Kelso and Longview.
      >
      > Contents [hide]
      > 1 Geological history
      > 2 Human history
      > 2.1 Naming controversy
      > 3 Subsidiary peaks
      > 4 Climbing and recreation
      > 5 Washington state quarter
      > 6 See also
      > 7 References
      > 8 External links
      >
      >
      >
      > [edit] Geological history
      > Mount Rainier's earliest lavas are over 840,000 years
      > old and are part of the Lily Formation (2.9 million to
      > 840,000 years ago). The early lavas formed a
      > "proto-Rainier" or an ancestral cone prior to the
      > present-day cone. The present cone is over 500,000
      > years old.[3] The volcano is highly eroded, with
      > glaciers on its slopes, and appears to be made mostly
      > of andesite. Rainier likely once stood even higher
      > than today at about 16,000 feet (4,900 m) before a
      > major debris avalanche and the resulting Osceola
      > Mudflow 5,000 years ago.
      >
      >
      > Hazard map
      > One of many emergency evacuation route signs in case
      > of volcanic eruption or lahar around Mt. Rainier.In
      > the past, Rainier has had large debris avalanches, and
      > has also produced enormous lahars (volcanic mudflows)
      > due to the large amount of glacial ice present. Its
      > lahars have reached all the way to the Puget Sound.
      > Around 5,000 years ago, a large chunk of the volcano
      > slid away and that debris avalanche helped to produce
      > the massive Osceola Mudflow, which went all the way to
      > the site of present-day Tacoma and south Seattle.[4]
      > This massive avalanche of rock and ice took out the
      > top 1,600 feet (500 m) of Rainier, bringing its height
      > down to around 14,100 feet (4,300 m). About 530 to 550
      > years ago, the Electron Mudflow occurred, although
      > this was not as large-scale as the Osceola Mudflow.
      >
      > After the major collapse 5,000 years ago, subsequent
      > eruptions of lava and tephra built up the modern
      > summit cone until about as recently as 1,000 years
      > ago. As many as 11 Holocene tephra layers have been
      > found.
      >
      > The most recent recorded volcanic eruption was between
      > 1820 and 1854, but many eyewitnesses reported eruptive
      > activity in 1858, 1870, 1879, 1882 and 1894 as
      > well.[5] As of 2008, there is no imminent risk of
      > eruption, but geologists expect that the volcano will
      > erupt again.
      >
      > Lahars from Rainier pose the most risk to life and
      > property, as many communities lie atop older lahar
      > deposits. Not only is there much ice atop the volcano,
      > the volcano is also slowly being weakened by
      > hydrothermal activity. According to Geoff Clayton, a
      > geologist with RH2, a repeat of the Osceola mudflow
      > would destroy Enumclaw, Kent, Auburn, and most or all
      > of Renton.[4] Such a mudflow might also reach down the
      > Duwamish estuary and destroy parts of downtown
      > Seattle, and cause tsunamis in Puget Sound and Lake
      > Washington. According to USGS, about 150,000 people
      > live on top of old lahar deposits of Rainier.[1]
      > Rainier is also capable of producing pyroclastic flows
      > as well as lava.
      >
      >
      > Northwest side of Mount Rainier seen from Tacoma.
      > Liberty Cap is the visible summit from this view,
      > sitting atop the Mowich Face.
      > Mount Rainier from space
      > [edit] Human history
      >
      > The three summits of Mount Rainier: Liberty Cap,
      > Columbia Crest, and Point SuccessMount Rainier was
      > first known by the Native Americans as Talol, Tahoma,
      > or Tacoma, from the Lushootseed word
      > təqʷúʔbəʔ ("mother of
      > waters") spoken by the Puyallup. At the time of
      > European contact, the river valleys and other areas
      > near the mountain were inhabited by many Pacific
      > Northwest tribes who hunted and gathered berries in
      > the forests and mountain meadows. These included the
      > Nisqually, Cowlitz, Yakama, Puyallup, and Muckleshoot.
      >
      > Captain George Vancouver reached Puget Sound in 1792
      > and became the first European to see the mountain. He
      > named it in honour of his friend, Rear Admiral Peter
      > Rainier.
      >
      > In 1833, Dr. William Fraser Tolmie explored the area
      > looking for medicinal plants. He was followed by other
      > explorers seeking challenge. Hazard Stevens and P. B.
      > Van Trump received a hero's welcome in the streets of
      > Olympia after their successful summit climb in 1870.
      > John Muir climbed Mount Rainier in 1888, and although
      > he enjoyed the view, he conceded that it was best
      > appreciated from below. Muir was one of many who
      > advocated protecting the mountain. In 1893, the area
      > was set aside as part of the Pacific Forest Reserve in
      > order to protect its physical/economic resources:
      > timber and watersheds.
      >
      > Citing the need to also protect scenery and provide
      > for public enjoyment, railroads and local businesses
      > urged the creation of a national park in hopes of
      > increased tourism. On March 2, 1899, President William
      > McKinley established Mount Rainier National Park as
      > America's fifth national park. Congress dedicated the
      > new park "for the benefit and enjoyment of the people;
      > and...for the preservation from injury or spoliation
      > of all timber, mineral deposits, natural curiosities,
      > or wonders within said park, and their retention in
      > their natural condition."
      >
      > In 1998, the United States Geological Survey began
      > putting together the Mount Rainier Volcano Lahar
      > Warning System to assist in the emergency evacuation
      > of the Puyallup River valley in the event of a
      > catastrophic debris flow. It is now run by the Pierce
      > County Department of Emergency Management. Tacoma, at
      > the mouth of the Puyallup, is only 37 miles (60 km)
      > west of Rainier, and moderately sized towns such as
      > Puyallup and Orting are only 27 miles (43 km) and 20
      > miles (32 km) away, respectively.
      >
      >
      > [edit] Naming controversy
      >
      > 1907 Rainier Beer advertisementAlthough "Rainier" had
      > been considered the official name of the mountain,
      > Theodore Winthrop, in his posthumously published 1862
      > travel book The Canoe and the Saddle, claimed the
      > indigenous name of the mountain was "Tacoma" and
      > afterwards, both names were used interchangeably,
      > although "Mt. Tacoma" was preferred in the city of
      > Tacoma.[6]
      >
      > In 1890, the United States Board on Geographic Names
      > declared that the mountain would be known as
      > "Rainier". Following this in 1897, the Pacific Forest
      > Reserve became the Mount Rainier Forest Reserve, and
      > the national park was established two years later.
      > Despite this, there was still a movement to change the
      > mountain's name to "Tacoma" and Congress was still
      > considering a resolution to change the name as late as
      > 1924.[6]
      >
      > After Rainier Brewing Company resumed producing
      > "Rainier Beer" after the end of Prohibition and its
      > advertisements became ubiquitous in the Seattle-Tacoma
      > area, a rumor began circulating that the brewery's
      > owner, Emil Sick, had bribed a Washington state
      > committee with free beer to promote the name
      > "Rainier". This, however, is an urban legend and can
      > still be heard today among Tacoma residents who
      > preferred the alternate name.[6] Sick did, however,
      > purchase the local baseball team and renamed them to
      > be the Seattle Rainiers for this purpose.[7]
      >
      >
      > [edit] Subsidiary peaks
      > The broad top of Mount Rainier contains three named
      > summits. The highest is called Columbia Crest. The
      > second highest summit is Point Success, 14,158 feet
      > (4,315 m), at the southern edge of the summit plateau,
      > atop the ridge known as Success Cleaver. It has a
      > topographic prominence of about 138 feet (42 m), so it
      > is not considered a separate peak. The lowest of the
      > three summits is Liberty Cap, 14,112 feet (4,301 m),
      > at the northwestern edge, which overlooks Liberty
      > Ridge, the Sunset Amphitheater, and the dramatic
      > Willis Wall. Liberty Cap has a prominence of 492 feet
      > (150 m), and so would qualify as a separate peak under
      > most strictly prominence-based rules. A prominence
      > cutoff of 400 feet (122 m) is commonly used in
      > Washington state.[8] However it is not usually
      > considered a separate peak, due to the massive size of
      > Mount Rainier, relative to which a 492 foot (150 m)
      > drop is not very large.
      >
      > High on the eastern flank of Mount Rainier is a peak
      > known as Little Tahoma, 11,138 feet (3,395 m), an
      > eroded remnant of the earlier, much higher, Mount
      > Rainier. It has a prominence of 858 feet (262 m), and
      > it is almost never climbed in direct conjunction with
      > Columbia Crest, so it is usually considered a separate
      > peak. If considered separately from Mt. Rainier,
      > Little Tahoma would be the third highest Mountain peak
      > in Washington.
      >
      >
      > Mountaineers descending from the summit avoid
      > crevasses above Emmons Flats Camp.
      > [edit] Climbing and recreation
      > Mountain climbing on Mount Rainier is difficult; it
      > includes climbing on the largest glaciers in the U.S.
      > south of Alaska. Most climbers require two to three
      > days to reach the summit. Climbing teams require
      > experience in glacier travel, self-rescue, and
      > wilderness travel. About 8,000 to 13,000 people
      > attempt the climb each year,[9] about 90% via routes
      > from Camp Muir on the southeast flank.[10] Most of the
      > rest ascend Emmons Glacier via Camp Schurman on the
      > northeast. About half of the attempts are successful,
      > with weather and conditioning being the most common
      > reasons for failure. About three mountaineering deaths
      > each year occur due to rock and ice fall, avalanche,
      > falls, and hypothermia associated with severe weather.
      >
      >
      > The north face of Mount Rainier (1932)Hiking,
      > photography, and camping are popular in the park.
      > Hiking trails, including the Wonderland Trail, a 93
      > miles (150 km) circumnavigation of the peak provide
      > access to the backcountry. Mount Rainier is also
      > popular for winter sports, including snowshoeing and
      > cross-country skiing. In summer, visitors pass through
      > vast meadows of wildflowers, on trails emanating from
      > historic Paradise Inn.
      >
      >
      > [edit] Washington state quarter
      > The Washington state quarter, which was released on
      > April 11, 2007, features Mount Rainier and a salmon.
      > [11][12]
      >
      >
      > [edit] See also
      > Wikimedia Commons has media related to:
      > Mount RainierMount Rainier National Park
      > Mountain peaks of North America
      > Mountain peaks of the United States
      > Cascade Volcanoes
      > Cascade Range
      >
      >
      > Neaby
      > --- Paul Marin <adventurenw32@...> wrote:
      >
      > > Hello,
      > > I'm new to hammock camping and can't wait to hit
      > > the trail. I made the wonderful discovery of
      > > hammock's in late 06 when I still lived on the East
      > > Coast. I got to do 1 short trip to a State Park in
      > > Va. (False Cape) with my shinny new hammock before
      > > my wonderful wife announced that we were pregnant
      > > and she wanted to move back home. Home took this
      > > Southern East Coast Boy 2500 mile too "Inland"
      > > Eastern Washington. I spent most of 07 working,
      > > researching areas to hike and camp in, and playing
      > > dad to be. Now, in 08 I've secured a couple of
      > > hall passes but am still not sure of good locations
      > > to go hammock camping at. Anyone, have an
      > > suggestions, blogs, clubs, etc.. In Eastern
      > > Washington they could point me to that can help me
      > > find some good spots?
      > >
      > > -Thanks
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
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