18086Re: Bridge Hammock ...is it cumfortable?
- Sep 24, 2007I made a Bridge Hammock. It's 96 inches long and 60 inches wide. First
It was 36 inch spreaders on the head end and 24 inches on the foot
end. Shoulder squeeze killed me. And Side sleeping didn't allow for
the fetal position. Also, lines tend to get tangled.
I'm one of those who has had a hard time getting comfortable in any
hammock. But I ill say this, I think the Bridge Hammock is the only
one I've seen with the potential to be comfortable. On Hammock Forums
there is a version of the Bridge Hammock that does not use spreader
bars. It uses snow stakes and line tied out on all four corners
instead. That'll will be my next try. I just need to buy some big
stakes and more Spyderline.
I hear you about banana hammock being torture. I just can't get
comfortable in them. I can't sleep on my back. And the banana curve
plus the torque when laying on the diagonal is too much for me. For a
long time I thought of giving up hammock camping. But the Bridge
Hammock offers hope where banana hammocks fall short.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "terry_and_pearl"
> --- In email@example.com, "Dave Womble" <dpwomble@> wrote:
> > GrizzlyAdams,
> > I couldn't get the photo link to work this morning but I think I have
> > seen the photos you refer too. You and I could probably get lost in
> > technical talk but most folks don't want to hear that, they just want
> > to know how it performs and compares relative to something they are
> > familiar with.
> > Getting into and out of hammocks is a tricky proposition with all
> > hammocks and is something I get concerned with from time to time. You
> > have to pay attention to what you are doing, particularly the novice
> > hammock user or someone using underquilts, peapods or most any other
> > insulation as they do add some level of complexity to the process.
> > The narrow mid section that one would presumably first sit in on your
> > bridge hammock is the first thing I notice. I have noticed that
> > narrow conventional hammocks are more difficult to safely enter that
> > wider conventional hammocks. Do the spreader bars somewhat opening up
> > the hammock bed help with that?
> Dave, I responded to your question about entry/exit to the Bridge
> Hammock. As I said there, for me at least, it has turned out to be a
> non-issue. I was concerned when I started. And a little confused. Do I
> get over the webbing or duck under the spreader bar or ...???
> After making the Hammock, getting in and out is as natural as any top
> loader I have used. Since I enter/exit at the mid-point, the spreader
> bars are far away and don't really enter into the procedure.
> The narrow mid-section, doesn't really matter. I find it enjoyable in
> I can sit cross-wise, i.e., webbing to webbing, in the hammock with my
> back against one webbing and my legs hanging out over the opposite
> webbing. I can sit up, almost upright, or I can lean way back. I find
> it rather comfortable. I can also get entirely in the hammock, and sit
> up with my legs laid out in front of me. Scott and David developed
> methods for using the Hammock as a lounger, kind of like a Laz-y-Boy.
> Both quite inventive.
> > And speaking of those wide spreader bars, whether they are dedicated
> > poles or hiking poles, they present new issues besides the torque and
> > tension on them and the hammock bed. I have used similar struts to
> > experiment with hammocks and to attach two hammocks side by side to
> > the same trees (http://tinyurl.com/2o7qu5). I don't believe the ones
> > I used would be as high as the ones you have on your bridge hammock
> > and I don't think they were as long. But I worried they were
> > something that could potentially be a problem with tarp coverage,
> > possibly snagging someone walking nearby, or poke a tarp when the
> > hammocks swing or are pushed to one side. Certainly that is not a
> > particularly difficult technical issue to resolve, but it is different
> > than the customary backpacking hammocks.
> Yes tarp coverage and interference between the pole ends and the tarp
> can be an issue. But I find the issue can be managed by how you hang
> the tarp and how high you hang the hammock. As for the spreader ends
> interfering with movement under the tarp. Again I have found it to be
> an issue that goes away with learning to use the hammock.
> When you moved from the ground to a hammock you had to learn new
> habits and ways of doing things. The same is true for the Bridge
> Hammock, just not as big a learning curve. For me, I set up the
> hammock and tarp. I then have my trekking poles setup as spreader
> bars. I then remove the poles with one end still attached to the
> hammock. The hammock then collapses down - no spread. Moving around
> under the tarp is then easier than with a Hennessy and the side tie
> outs. Maybe even easier than a Speer since the Bridge collapses down
> very narrow. Narrower than any Speer I have seen. Inserting the
> trekking poles as spreader bars just before entering for the night is
> accomplished in a matter of seconds. Night time calls just reverse the
> procedure. Inserting the trekking poles and taking them out is
> accomplished in seconds and with a little practice, it becomes second
> nature. At least it has worked that way for me.
> As far as the ends of the trekking poles tearing the tarp. This again
> was something I was concerned about also. It has turned out to be
> another non-issue for me. The carbide tips of my poles are covered
> with plastic which enables them to be used as spreader bars and the
> other end has a 1/2" diameter AL cylinder with rounded edges, but not
> pointed. Could the tarp material rub and eventually wear through? Yes,
> but the situation can be managed by learning slightly different
> techniques than those used with a conventional hammock.
> > The bridge hammock has some significant differences from what folks
> > are use to and I would think most folks are concerned with the
> > differences-- the tradeoffs if you will, both the positive ones, the
> > negative ones, and even the ones that are six of one versus half a
> > dozen of the other. Something laid out simple and brief to help them
> > understand just what it is and what it can do for them versus what it
> > isn't and what it can't do for them. And I know that is sometimes
> > difficult for technical folks involved in design specifics to do-- we
> > often have a hard time seeing the forest because of all the specific
> > trees we see.
> Yes - using the Bridge Hammock is different from a conventional
> hammock. Not as different as moving from a tent to a hammock, but
> different. For anybody that made the transition from the tent to a
> hammock, learning to use a Bridge should be a lot easier. A lot more
> common ground.
> For those who have never used a tent and are going straight to a
> hammock, then the learning curve for a Bridge is no worse than for any
> other hammock. They will probably have it easier than those who have
> used a conventional hammock since they won't have deeply rooted
> concepts of how a hammock is supposed to be. No habits to overcome.
> > Dave Womble
> > aka Youngblood 2000
> > designer of the Speer Segmented Pad Extender and SnugFit Underquilt
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