17241Re: [Hammock Camping] Re: weather shield vs. larger tarp
- Apr 4, 2007ok, i looked at the picture again & i see that the extra tie out is mid way on the side. can you tell me again the size of that tarp? i like that set-up.
i started using picasa a while back & it's by far the best picture storage i've used. ...tim
PS... getting close to SEHHA at hot springs time!!!
Dave Womble <dpwomble@...> wrote: Tim,
That is a different Brian, the one that runs the GeorgiaHikes web site
that I frequent. That is the same tarp you have seen me use for years
at Hot Springs. It has three tie outs on each side-- one at each
corner and one along the side at the center. The angle of the photo is
playing that optical illusion game on you.
Brian had used a heater in the loft of the shelter, had his camera out
in the morning and took a few other photos of my setup. It was cold
enough that I didn't want to mess with my camera... I would have had
to warm it up before it would have even worked. Anyway he posted them
on Picasa, a free site you have to sign in to see that is at this
link: http://picasaweb.google.com/brian.tant .
--- In email@example.com, tim garner wrote:
> dave, is that tarp that is closed on the end just a rectangular
tarp w/ extra tie outs a foot or so in from the corners?
> and that's not t-back brian is it? ..tim
> Dave Womble wrote: Scott,
> It is my opinion that a rectangular shaped tarp provides more
> protection from wind, rain and bad weather than tarps that can be
> visualized as rectangular tarps with portions of the ends cut off, ie
> diamond shaped or hex shaped. These tarps trade off coverage and
> flexibility for lighter weight and a setup that sometimes requires
> less stakes and guylines.
> There is obviously a place for both maximum protection style tarps and
> minimum protection and middle protection tarps. The colder the
> weather the more important protection from the wind becomes, so in one
> sense you could make it a warm weather versus cold weather argument.
> On long trips without any other shelter you might appreciate more
> coverage when you have to live under a tarp in prolonged rains for
> cooking, changing clothes, etc. Rectangular tarps also provide much
> better rain and splash protection if you want to sleep on the ground
> with a tarp.
> A rectangular tarp with center tie-outs along the sides can be rigged
> similar to a diamond shaped tarp with one end or both ends partially
> closed off for wind protection. I've done that many times when I have
> been in exposed sites and the wind picked up on me. When I set up in a
> conventional A-frame, I had to get up and reposition two stakes to
> block off the wind coming at me from one end of the tarp; if I
> suspected the wind might come from that direction I just set my tarp
> up that way. This is a link to some photos of how I did this a month
> or so ago when I was expecting wind and snow at an exposed site-
> http://tinyurl.com/ys4hnb . You can't do that with diamond shaped or
> hex shaped tarps because that portion of the tarp simply isn't
> there... you have to rely on something else like WeatherShields or
> SuperShelters or some other scheme to make up for not having enough
> tarp to do the job. With that tarp, I can hang it high and wide to
> have an excellent view and ample rain protection from most rains or
> hang it low and tight to block off most winds and shed snow. You do
> want a steeper pitch to shed snow, it doesn't roll off like water. It
> has to slide off and if the pitch isn't steep enough it will get heavy
> enough to cause a tarp to droop and collect enough to cause a major
> problem with the weight of the snow.
> Dave Womble
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