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17240[Hammock Camping] Re: weather shield vs. larger tarp

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  • Dave Womble
    Apr 4, 2007

      That is a different Brian, the one that runs the GeorgiaHikes web site
      that I frequent. That is the same tarp you have seen me use for years
      at Hot Springs. It has three tie outs on each side-- one at each
      corner and one along the side at the center. The angle of the photo is
      playing that optical illusion game on you. <grin>

      Brian had used a heater in the loft of the shelter, had his camera out
      in the morning and took a few other photos of my setup. It was cold
      enough that I didn't want to mess with my camera... I would have had
      to warm it up before it would have even worked. Anyway he posted them
      on Picasa, a free site you have to sign in to see that is at this
      link: http://picasaweb.google.com/brian.tant .


      --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, tim garner <slowhike@...> wrote:
      > dave, is that tarp that is closed on the end just a rectangular
      tarp w/ extra tie outs a foot or so in from the corners?
      > and that's not t-back brian is it? ..tim
      > Dave Womble <dpwomble@...> wrote: Scott,
      > It is my opinion that a rectangular shaped tarp provides more
      > protection from wind, rain and bad weather than tarps that can be
      > visualized as rectangular tarps with portions of the ends cut off, ie
      > diamond shaped or hex shaped. These tarps trade off coverage and
      > flexibility for lighter weight and a setup that sometimes requires
      > less stakes and guylines.
      > There is obviously a place for both maximum protection style tarps and
      > minimum protection and middle protection tarps. The colder the
      > weather the more important protection from the wind becomes, so in one
      > sense you could make it a warm weather versus cold weather argument.
      > On long trips without any other shelter you might appreciate more
      > coverage when you have to live under a tarp in prolonged rains for
      > cooking, changing clothes, etc. Rectangular tarps also provide much
      > better rain and splash protection if you want to sleep on the ground
      > with a tarp.
      > A rectangular tarp with center tie-outs along the sides can be rigged
      > similar to a diamond shaped tarp with one end or both ends partially
      > closed off for wind protection. I've done that many times when I have
      > been in exposed sites and the wind picked up on me. When I set up in a
      > conventional A-frame, I had to get up and reposition two stakes to
      > block off the wind coming at me from one end of the tarp; if I
      > suspected the wind might come from that direction I just set my tarp
      > up that way. This is a link to some photos of how I did this a month
      > or so ago when I was expecting wind and snow at an exposed site-
      > http://tinyurl.com/ys4hnb . You can't do that with diamond shaped or
      > hex shaped tarps because that portion of the tarp simply isn't
      > there... you have to rely on something else like WeatherShields or
      > SuperShelters or some other scheme to make up for not having enough
      > tarp to do the job. With that tarp, I can hang it high and wide to
      > have an excellent view and ample rain protection from most rains or
      > hang it low and tight to block off most winds and shed snow. You do
      > want a steeper pitch to shed snow, it doesn't roll off like water. It
      > has to slide off and if the pitch isn't steep enough it will get heavy
      > enough to cause a tarp to droop and collect enough to cause a major
      > problem with the weight of the snow.
      > Dave Womble
      > aka Youngblood 2000
      > .
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