1711Hammock Camping Re: utterly amazed I am
- Jun 10, 2003Robi,
Nice to see that someone else uses themselves as a measurement.
Regarding the inch... It has a confusing history:
\Inch\, n. [OE. inche, unche, AS. ynce, L. uncia the twelfth part,
inch, ounce. See Ounce a weight.] 1. A measure of length, the twelfth
part of a foot, commonly subdivided into halves, quarters, eights,
sixteenths, etc., as among mechanics. It was also formerly divided
into twelve parts, called lines, and originally into three parts,
called barleycorns, its length supposed to have been determined from
three grains of barley placed end to end lengthwise. It is also
sometimes called a prime ('), composed of twelve seconds (''), as in
the duodecimal system of arithmetic.
Relationship of the foot to the measurement called a foot is
interesting. My foot is size 11 and is 11 inches long... but the
same sort of thing is not true for smaller sizes. Someone with a
size 6 foot has a foot much longer than 6 inches. However someone
with a size 12 foot has a foot about 12 inches long.
If you read the other post, you saw that the nautical and statute
miles are actually metric... 1000 fathoms and paces respectively.
That the minute of latitude and the nautical mile ended up being the
same was a happy accident that really helps find distances on a
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, robi dawson <beanco@m...>
> Hi Rick,ps.yahoo.com/group/hammockcamping/message/757
> >Metric? English? Both are too limited.
> >Actually, I wish we would all get back to anatomic measurements for
> >things like hammocks and kayaks and clothing.
> >See a previous message:
> very interesting... i do that kind of measuring all the time when i
> working from my head. it is when i follow the instructions ofothers that i
> turn to the *box* and use meters and feet and yards and centimetersetc.
> but cooking tends to be from sight, sound, feel and taste as does
> oven i am slowly building in my back yard...know the
> i find it easier to use these anatomic measurements, although i
> terms mentioned i did not know exactly what they referred to.invented to
> That being said i suppose the english and metric systems were
> ensure standards so everybody is talking about the same thingarms.
> >It makes everything so much simpler to say that your hammock cloth
> >needs to be a fathom and 3 forearms long and its cords need to be 2
> >fathoms and a forearm long at each end.
> >fathom: as far as you can pull a cord between your outstretched
> >2 fathoms is just about perfect distance between hammocktrees...you
> >can use 2 paces as well, but they are a little shorter than fathoms(pronounced
> >(a pace is two steps)
> >forearm: from the elbow to the fleshy part of the thumb where you
> >would hold a cord (fathom = 4 forearms) I make my hammocks 3
> >forearms wide, while Ed suggests a foot wider.
> does inch not refer to some anatomic measurement. Huvely
> hoo-vay), the hungary word for inch - a measurement not actuallyused here,
> just translated from Eng. refers to thumb....the
> >handspan: end of little finger to thumb when spread (forearm = 2
> >hand spans) This is about how far the tarp should overlap the
> >hammock at each end.
> the way horses are still measured if i am not mistaken...
> >The "english" system went crazy when someone tried to standardize
> >lengths. This was necessary for precision (like for machine parts)to
> >but we lost all collective memory about how to use our own bodies
> >measure things for ourselves.were
> i have seen lots of survival camping shows of late on TV and they
> mentioning measurements like this for making lean-tos and stuff...made it
> a whole heck of a lot easier than trying to worry about how many cmlong or
> deep you make it....the
> as for the collective memory.. at the school where i will be taking
> kids camping from each 3rd grade class builds a house or structureof some
> sorts. I was out helping last week. The teacher had a sketching ofthis
> round structure with measurements on it... the kids were justlearning
> meters and cm and stuff but they had forgotten their tape measurer.measure with?
> how do you build a structure to size without an instrument to
> they started pacing the distance from the center of the roundbuilding to
> be to the out edge and marked it off. they had to dig a trench forthe
> foundation, 80 cm deep. again no tape to measure with. they knewthe teach
> was just over 160 cm tall so they dug a whole, made her get in anddecided
> where her middle is and adjusted the hole depth accordingly, thenthey dug
> the entire trench and it was pretty darn accurate...how many
> another story from the school"
> my son had to draw his bedroom to scale, he went around measuring
> *fathoms* two of the walls were and did the math, he actuallyfigured that
> out on his own because i was busy working and he did not want toask me to
> hold the tape measurer for him.... which i would have done gladlybut i am
> actually happier that at the age of 10 he solved the problem withwhat he
> had at his disposal!feet,
> >My practice is to use personal anatomic measurements and when
> >necessary to convert them to some standard measurement. In the US,
> >by the way, cloth and webbing measurements are not in inches or
> >but in yards. If I go into a fabric store and asks for 10 feet ofignorant
> >ripstop nylon, the clerk looks at me like I am some sort of
> >male. She will always stop and correct me... so you want 3 1/3from whole
> >yards? Is that correct??
> what you could congratulate the clerk for being able to convert
> numbers to fractions!one that
> rick, thanks for the message. very good to hear i am not the only
> still uses his body... i would think that the only way to make aproper
> fitting kayak -a dream of ours BTW - is to measure the body and ifyour
> fathoms and arm/hand spans work then who needs a ruler?fishermen - i
> the absolute best ladik - Hungarian type of rowing boat for
> have ever seen were made by craftsman, masters at that, without asingle
> measurement in cm or meters! all spans and paces and done by eyenot blue
> print. they row well, are stable on water and last for ages! andall wood!
> nice, nice nice...
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