15558Re: Buying from Wally world
- Aug 28, 2006Great post Jeff. Very well described and extremely informative. Oh,
and yeah, I've learned to ignore the funny looks in the fabric
section also. :)
--- In email@example.com, "Jeff" <jwj32542@...> wrote:
> What you'll find at Walmart...
> You kinda have to guess at the weights, but it'll come to you.
> Search the archives...this topic comes up regularly.
> Ripstop simply refers to the pattern of squares in the nylon. The
> squares are made from thicker threads that function to...you
> it...stop rips before they get too big. Ripstop may or may not
> a treatment on it, frays very easily, and you can easily blow
> through it (and so can the wind). It's great for summer hammocks
> and isn't water resistant at all.
> Durable Water Repellent (DWR) is a treatment added to ripstop
> (and other fabrics). It'll usually be shiny, feel slippier, and
> pretty hard to blow through. It'll still fray. Depending on the
> treatment, it can be very water resistant or not really resistant
> all. It is breathable, but how breathable depends on the fabric
> weight and treatment. Lots of folks prefer DWR for hammocks,
> windsuits, stuff sacks, quilt and sleeping bag shells, etc.
> Silnylon is very slippery, hardly frays at all when new, and you
> can't blow through it. It's not breathable so condensation can be
> an issue with certain uses (rain gear, hammocks). It's waterproof
> to a certain water pressure depending on fabric weight and
> thickness. Sil is good for tarps, stuff sacks, snakeskins,
> etc. Not many hammock models are made from non-breathable
> like silnylon.
> Weights given are usually for the fabric before any treatment is
> applied, so 1.1 oz silnylon may actually weigh ~1.3 oz per square
> yard. I've found LOTS of 1.9 oz untreated ripstop, quite a bit of
> 1.1 oz DWR (mostly gray/silver), and a bit of 1.9 oz silnylon.
> What kind of HH model do you have? Check the HH website for the
> weight of your fly and use that as a basis for your guesses on
> Walmart's fabric. Or drop the $4 on a sample pack from owfinc.com
> so you'll know for sure.
> Sooo...ripstop describes the fabric itself, DWR and sil are
> treatments added to the ripstop, and the ladies there will
> have no idea what the differences are. And don't mind the funny
> looks you'll get for being a guy who ACTUALLY shops in the fabric
> section. :p
- << Previous post in topic Next post in topic >>