15294Re: HH on PCT report
- Aug 14, 2006Jeff said:
"I've never used the Undercover and Underpad, but I understand that
many people are warm to about 50F with that system as their only
bottom insulation. By contrast, for about the same weight, you could
use only the JRB Nest that Pan sells and be comfortable into the 30s.
Or a Speer pad extender and CCF pads for a more inexpensive route -
about the same weight as the HH system and you shouldn't have a
problem being warm into the 30s.
Not really knocking the HH system - as I said I don't have any direct
experience with it - I just haven't seen many people confirm that it's
good to much below 50 F. And for that weight, other systems can
likely get you another 10-20 degrees of warmth."
Thanks, Jeff. I guess I too am looking to hear from anyone that can
confirm the sort of stats that the HH site gives for what their system
should do. For $240 I can buy the JRB Nest and hopefully that would
do what I thought I was getting for $130 from the HH supershelter
(read the arctic test on the HH site and tell me that isn't implying
the supershelter is good down to very low temps ...). Assuming that
the JRB nest really did keep me warm enough, I'd save a net of maybe 4
ounces, and perhaps have a simpler system.
Given that the supershelter doesn't seem to really cut it at cold
temps (?), I'm naturally leery of spending yet more money at this
point on something else that promises to do so ... (!)
The issue I have with the Speer pad extender is that I just don't
think it's going to be as comfortable; I'd really like to do without a
ccf pad that I lay on directly inside the hammock.
I suppose I could order a second underpad from HH for $30 (and 5.5
more ounces) and see if that added enough warmth. Or maybe I can just
get some open-celled foam from a local fabric store. Reading the
supershelter reviews on backpackgeartest.org, they talk about their
testing being delayed until HH shipped them separate hip and kidney
insulation pieces. Such items are not for sale on the HH site ...
I'm going to defer deciding about all of this until winter time when
it will be easy for me to test typical "three season low temps" in the
convenience of my backyard and try out various possibilities.
Hmm, then maybe I'll submit an owner review to augment what's on
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