14094Re: HH supershelter experiences sought
- Jun 13, 2006Based on *some* experience with it, I very much doubt that open-
celled foam will do much for you by way of insulation when on the
ground - particularly if the temps are such that you're going to
ground because you get chilled when hanging.
For the ground option, you absolutely *need* something which won't
compress underneath you. DownAirMat, Big Agnes Insulated Air Core,
ccf pads all work - with the ccf pads being the simplest and cheapest
option. *Or* you decide that when you see a night coming in which
you'll have to go to ground, you start looking for a camp site early
on and find one where you can gather a lot of natural insulation
(dead leaves and the like) to build a nest. Not necessarily
comfortable, but nothing short of a DAM will feel comfortable on the
ground once you're used to hammocking.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Brian Lewis" <brianle@...>
> I recently bought a HH ultralight a-sym and the HH supershelter
> (undercover + underpad, not the overcover); thus far my massive
> hammock experience is of sleeping in my backyard a couple of
> I'll be doing a 150 mile stretch of the PCT in August and want to
> minimize potential unhappiness. At one point the trail gets up above
> 7000 feet or so; I don't tend to get cold at night but am a little
> concerned after reading backpackgeartest.org reviews. It seems
> --- having now bought the supershelter (which works fine in mybe
> backyard :-), I'd like to figure out some in-between approach that
> will keep me warm enough at relatively "upper" elevations, but not
> so beefy + heavy + expensive as to be winter-proof (i.e., a JRB nestand
> or the like).
> I'm thinking of buying a second underpad --- at 5-1/2 more ounces
> $30 this seems like a reasonable idea. Any experience out there inthe
> using two underpads? How about just buying open-celled foam and
> making my own second underpad? (for $30 maybe not worth the effort)
> I would hope that two underpads might also be enough cushioning in
> case I have to pitch the hammock as a ground tent (my fellow hikerssite
> have conventional tents); I don't want to also bring a traditional
> sleeping pad.
> Another issue is how to store the hammock in my backpack. The HH
> says this:fragile
> "KEEPING IT ALL TOGETHER Once the Undercover and Underpad are
> installed, I suggest leaving the system on the hammock. This makes
> set-up and break-down a breeze and also protects the somewhat
> pad from damage. I just stuff it all into my pack compressing thefoam
> UnderPad a lot if my pack is full or less if there is more room. Weapproach?
> reccommend lashing all of the attachmenty points so that they cannot
> come loose when collalpsed into your pack."
> I like the idea of keeping it all together (and not using snakeskins
> so I can keep the underpad in place)). What I'm considering is
> getting a couple of light stuff sacks, one for the tarp (which could
> be wet and I thus want to store separately), and another for the
> overall hammock plus supershelter with pad(s?) left in. Good
> There are little loops at the far ends of the hammock; any risk if I
> put and just keep mini-beeners there, to include leaving these there
> when I stuff the hammock at the bottom of my backpack? I figure I
> store significant stuff in a bag at one or both ends without it
> getting in my way.
> Thanks in advance for feedback on any of the above.
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