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  • lady hawk
    This just came in from one of he Ormus Groups I subscribe to . maybe some of you might find this interesting & useful. T (no editing done on this page)
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      This just came in from one of he Ormus Groups I subscribe to .
      maybe some of you might find this interesting & useful.
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      Subject: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic


      KMTech, et al,
      *
      Errata*
      This is a repost of the same article with the names corrected.

      Frank Znidarsic is the scientist with a breakthrough assembly of
      classical physics against modern data from Bose-Einstein condensates and
      nucleo-sonic (nuclear phonon) 'time-dilation', ergo, light-speed
      reduction, of the transition of an orbital electron to a different
      electronic shell of an atom.

      When the measured electron wave transition found far (far) below
      light-speed is considered against classical physics, Plank's constant is
      explained to be the refractive index of a photon going from near
      light-speed orbital velocity while bound in an electron shell, to the
      velocity that a sonic wave travels on the positive wave-function of the
      nucleus, the Coulomb field.

      The marvelous fit with modern alchemical sonic transmutation (E.G., of
      salt to precious metals) and cold-fusion experiments, is the
      experimental finding that the matter wave of a solid atomic lattice can
      have the thermal energy polarized by an excited standing wave, such that
      the whole of the matter lattice resonates as a whole with the
      thermo-acoustic coherence to the exciting wave.

      While working with NASA attempting to duplicate the findings of Dr. Li,
      Znidarsic's team found an harmonic constant that caused matter lattice
      to behave as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC).

      This enables mathematical models using the transition event path of an
      electron described as less than light speed, and harmonic at the same
      frequency that the nucleus is phononically harmonic with electronic
      pressures. The coincidental frequencies are modeled by classical physics

      The harmonic frequency of the aether is found experimentally to be 1.094
      million cycles per second-meter [e.g., a 1/3 meter disk is harmonic at 3
      times 1.094 megaHertz]. This in effect is creation of a spin-gradient
      across a macro-BEC that describes the standing wave.

      I'm sorry time and lack of illustration prevents a better projection to
      your mind of the importance this theory holds as a new adhesive for
      bright minds to ponder the applied science entailed by the ability to
      morph a BEC sphere into a Golden Egg, for one [causing inertial
      displacement of the unit due to asymmetry of the time-retardation well
      near center of the spin axis].

      The following excerpt is from the post by 'AlienScientist' at youtube.com.

      DonEMitchell
      http://groupKOS.com
      http://portal.groupKOS.com/index.php?title=Control of the Natural Forces
      ----------------------------------------------------------

      *Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
      *

      This is a most excellent video for anyone to ponder that is curious
      about the widespread claims that quantum physics is bogus and desperate.

      Frank Znidarsic worked on the NASA team that tested Dr. Podkletnov's
      gravity anomaly with spinning superconductors.

      This video is just out today (Tuesday, July 13, 2010). A Must see!

      *Source: *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr_s28wIOzQ *posted by
      'AlienScientist' (youtube.com)*

      "Richard Feynman once said "It doesn't matter how smart you are, or
      how brilliant your theory is. If it doesn't agree with experiment,
      it's WRONG!" If you happen to go by a Barnes and Noble's this month,
      stop in and pick up a copy of the July Issue of Infinite Energy
      Magazine and look for Frank Znidarsic's Article on the Duality of
      Matter and Waves.

      I'd really like to see if this theory is wrong, but I don't think it
      is. At least until someone can show me how and why it fails. So far
      it's only given right answers. You get the Compton wave of the
      electron, the radii and intensities of spectral emissions, and it
      explains why everything looked so confusing through the only lenses
      which 1930s science permitted.

      The mathematical achievements of the past century are astounding in
      retrospect to such a simplified theory of quantum mechanics. Yet the
      math gives us real answers, and tells us these abstract
      hyperdimensional modelings was just the speed of light refracting
      into the electron shell which behaves like a Bose Condensate. The
      first Bose Condensate wasn't created until 2003, the great
      scientists never performed experiments with large diameter rotating
      superconductors, so how could they possibly have known or seen this???"

      "The Original Paper:
      http://www.scribd.com/doc/25455268/Co...
      <http://www.scribd.com/doc/25455268/Control-of-the-Natural-Forces>

      A-reconciliation-of-Quantum-Mechanics-an

      d-Special-Relativity: http://www.scribd.com/doc/33043355/A-...
      <http://www.scribd.com/doc/33043355/A-reconciliation-of-Quantum-Mechanics-and-Special-Relativity>


      Background and additional info:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultravio...
      <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_catastrophe>
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpre...
      <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpretation_of_quantum_mechanics>

      Schrodinger and Dirac Equations:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%...
      <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger_equation>
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_eq...
      <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_equation>

      Bose-Einstein Condensate:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose%E2%...
      <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose%E2%80%93Einstein_condensate>

      Harvard Bose Condensates stop and restart light:
      http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2...
      <http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2001/01.24/01-stoplight.html>

      Frank Znidarsic:
      "I was part of the NASA team and am in your pictures to prove it. We
      attempted the experiment twice. In both attempts, we made several
      large SC disks, but never developed the rotation apparatus to test
      them." "

      -DonEMitchell posted 2010.07.13

      [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    • George Pantos
      wow good stuff.. i have some very simplistic additions of my own, thru and understanding of hameltech. but i am blackmailing this country thru silence..
      Message 2 of 16 , Jul 15 1:13 PM
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        wow good stuff.. i have some very simplistic additions of my own, thru and
        understanding of hameltech. but i am blackmailing this country thru
        silence.. because i've had it with Isreali-U.S. policy and am waiting for
        the entire economy to go under within 10 years.. no reason these people
        should have anything.. especially something that might save their weak
        skins.. i'm going to sit and watch them drown..




        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "lady hawk" <tarabead@...>
        To: <hameltech@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:24 PM
        Subject: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic


        > This just came in from one of he Ormus Groups I subscribe to .
        > maybe some of you might find this interesting & useful.
        > T
        > (no editing done on this page)
        > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
        > Subject: Fw: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
        >
        > ----- Forwarded Message ----
        > From: DonEMitchell <mitch@...>
        > To: DonEMitchell@...
        > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 7:36:41 PM
        > Subject: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
        >
        >
        > KMTech, et al,
        > *
        > Errata*
        > This is a repost of the same article with the names corrected.
        >
        > Frank Znidarsic is the scientist with a breakthrough assembly of
        > classical physics against modern data from Bose-Einstein condensates and
        > nucleo-sonic (nuclear phonon) 'time-dilation', ergo, light-speed
        > reduction, of the transition of an orbital electron to a different
        > electronic shell of an atom.
        >
        > When the measured electron wave transition found far (far) below
        > light-speed is considered against classical physics, Plank's constant is
        > explained to be the refractive index of a photon going from near
        > light-speed orbital velocity while bound in an electron shell, to the
        > velocity that a sonic wave travels on the positive wave-function of the
        > nucleus, the Coulomb field.
        >
        > The marvelous fit with modern alchemical sonic transmutation (E.G., of
        > salt to precious metals) and cold-fusion experiments, is the
        > experimental finding that the matter wave of a solid atomic lattice can
        > have the thermal energy polarized by an excited standing wave, such that
        > the whole of the matter lattice resonates as a whole with the
        > thermo-acoustic coherence to the exciting wave.
        >
        > While working with NASA attempting to duplicate the findings of Dr. Li,
        > Znidarsic's team found an harmonic constant that caused matter lattice
        > to behave as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC).
        >
        > This enables mathematical models using the transition event path of an
        > electron described as less than light speed, and harmonic at the same
        > frequency that the nucleus is phononically harmonic with electronic
        > pressures. The coincidental frequencies are modeled by classical physics
        >
        > The harmonic frequency of the aether is found experimentally to be 1.094
        > million cycles per second-meter [e.g., a 1/3 meter disk is harmonic at 3
        > times 1.094 megaHertz]. This in effect is creation of a spin-gradient
        > across a macro-BEC that describes the standing wave.
        >
        > I'm sorry time and lack of illustration prevents a better projection to
        > your mind of the importance this theory holds as a new adhesive for
        > bright minds to ponder the applied science entailed by the ability to
        > morph a BEC sphere into a Golden Egg, for one [causing inertial
        > displacement of the unit due to asymmetry of the time-retardation well
        > near center of the spin axis].
        >
        > The following excerpt is from the post by 'AlienScientist' at youtube.com.
        >
        > DonEMitchell
        > http://groupKOS.com
        > http://portal.groupKOS.com/index.php?title=Control of the Natural Forces
        > ----------------------------------------------------------
        >
        > *Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
        > *
        >
        > This is a most excellent video for anyone to ponder that is curious
        > about the widespread claims that quantum physics is bogus and desperate.
        >
        > Frank Znidarsic worked on the NASA team that tested Dr. Podkletnov's
        > gravity anomaly with spinning superconductors.
        >
        > This video is just out today (Tuesday, July 13, 2010). A Must see!
        >
        > *Source: *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr_s28wIOzQ *posted by
        > 'AlienScientist' (youtube.com)*
        >
        > "Richard Feynman once said "It doesn't matter how smart you are, or
        > how brilliant your theory is. If it doesn't agree with experiment,
        > it's WRONG!" If you happen to go by a Barnes and Noble's this month,
        > stop in and pick up a copy of the July Issue of Infinite Energy
        > Magazine and look for Frank Znidarsic's Article on the Duality of
        > Matter and Waves.
        >
        > I'd really like to see if this theory is wrong, but I don't think it
        > is. At least until someone can show me how and why it fails. So far
        > it's only given right answers. You get the Compton wave of the
        > electron, the radii and intensities of spectral emissions, and it
        > explains why everything looked so confusing through the only lenses
        > which 1930s science permitted.
        >
        > The mathematical achievements of the past century are astounding in
        > retrospect to such a simplified theory of quantum mechanics. Yet the
        > math gives us real answers, and tells us these abstract
        > hyperdimensional modelings was just the speed of light refracting
        > into the electron shell which behaves like a Bose Condensate. The
        > first Bose Condensate wasn't created until 2003, the great
        > scientists never performed experiments with large diameter rotating
        > superconductors, so how could they possibly have known or seen this???"
        >
        > "The Original Paper:
        > http://www.scribd.com/doc/25455268/Co...
        > <http://www.scribd.com/doc/25455268/Control-of-the-Natural-Forces>
        >
        > A-reconciliation-of-Quantum-Mechanics-an
        >
        > d-Special-Relativity: http://www.scribd.com/doc/33043355/A-...
        > <http://www.scribd.com/doc/33043355/A-reconciliation-of-Quantum-Mechanics-and-Special-Relativity>
        >
        >
        > Background and additional info:
        > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultravio...
        > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_catastrophe>
        > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpre...
        > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpretation_of_quantum_mechanics>
        >
        > Schrodinger and Dirac Equations:
        > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%...
        > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger_equation>
        > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_eq...
        > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_equation>
        >
        > Bose-Einstein Condensate:
        > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose%E2%...
        > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose%E2%80%93Einstein_condensate>
        >
        > Harvard Bose Condensates stop and restart light:
        > http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2...
        > <http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2001/01.24/01-stoplight.html>
        >
        > Frank Znidarsic:
        > "I was part of the NASA team and am in your pictures to prove it. We
        > attempted the experiment twice. In both attempts, we made several
        > large SC disks, but never developed the rotation apparatus to test
        > them." "
        >
        > -DonEMitchell posted 2010.07.13
        >
        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        >
        >
        >
        >
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      • TIm Wisener
        Check this out http://www.detailshere.com/tunnels.htm You dont think the U.S. government has all the technology they need?Along with Russia. Do think the oil
        Message 3 of 16 , Jul 15 2:12 PM
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          Check this out http://www.detailshere.com/tunnels.htm You dont think the U.S. government has all the technology they need?Along with Russia. Do think the oil spill and Hurricane Ivan was accidents? they are planning and inducing an economical collapse, most of the citizens sit around with their eyes and ears closed, knowing the whole time whats going on, its called denial. Just a book, but the tunnels and all are real, just how much of the rest is true, who knows. Maybe it is time for a NWO, just not theirs.Another note one way out of debt fast and thats a world war, tensions are building everyone feels it. So blackmail away


          From: George Pantos <gop6@...>
          To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 3:13:08 PM
          Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

          wow good stuff..  i have some very simplistic additions of my own, thru and
          understanding of hameltech. but i am blackmailing this country thru
          silence.. because i've had it with Isreali-U.S. policy and am waiting for
          the entire economy to go under within 10 years.. no reason these people
          should have anything.. especially something that might save their weak
          skins.. i'm going to sit and watch them drown..




          ----- Original Message -----
          From: "lady hawk" <tarabead@...>
          To: <hameltech@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:24 PM
          Subject: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic


          > This just came in from one of he Ormus Groups I subscribe to .
          > maybe some of you might find this interesting & useful.
          > T
          > (no editing done on this page)
          > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
          > Subject: Fw: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
          >
          > ----- Forwarded Message ----
          > From: DonEMitchell <mitch@...>
          > To: DonEMitchell@...
          > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 7:36:41 PM
          > Subject: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
          >
          >
          > KMTech, et al,
          > *
          > Errata*
          > This is a repost of the same article with the names corrected.
          >
          > Frank Znidarsic is the scientist with a breakthrough assembly of
          > classical physics against modern data from Bose-Einstein condensates and
          > nucleo-sonic (nuclear phonon) 'time-dilation', ergo, light-speed
          > reduction, of the transition of an orbital electron to a different
          > electronic shell of an atom.
          >
          > When the measured electron wave transition found far (far) below
          > light-speed is considered against classical physics, Plank's constant is
          > explained to be the refractive index of a photon going from near
          > light-speed orbital velocity while bound in an electron shell, to the
          > velocity that a sonic wave travels on the positive wave-function of the
          > nucleus, the Coulomb field.
          >
          > The marvelous fit with modern alchemical sonic transmutation (E.G., of
          > salt to precious metals) and cold-fusion experiments, is the
          > experimental finding that the matter wave of a solid atomic lattice can
          > have the thermal energy polarized by an excited standing wave, such that
          > the whole of the matter lattice resonates as a whole with the
          > thermo-acoustic coherence to the exciting wave.
          >
          > While working with NASA attempting to duplicate the findings of Dr. Li,
          > Znidarsic's team found an harmonic constant that caused matter lattice
          > to behave as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC).
          >
          > This enables mathematical models using the transition event path of an
          > electron described as less than light speed, and harmonic at the same
          > frequency that the nucleus is phononically harmonic with electronic
          > pressures.  The coincidental frequencies are modeled by classical physics
          >
          > The harmonic frequency of the aether is found experimentally to be 1.094
          > million cycles per second-meter [e.g., a 1/3 meter disk is harmonic at 3
          > times 1.094 megaHertz].  This in effect is creation of a spin-gradient
          > across a macro-BEC that describes the standing wave.
          >
          > I'm sorry time and lack of illustration prevents a better projection to
          > your mind of the importance this theory holds as a new adhesive for
          > bright minds to ponder the applied science entailed by the ability to
          > morph a BEC sphere into a Golden Egg, for one [causing inertial
          > displacement of the unit due to asymmetry of the time-retardation well
          > near center of the spin axis].
          >
          > The following excerpt is from the post by 'AlienScientist' at youtube.com.
          >
          > DonEMitchell
          > http://groupKOS.com
          > http://portal.groupKOS.com/index.php?title=Control of the Natural Forces
          > ----------------------------------------------------------
          >
          > *Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
          > *
          >
          > This is a most excellent video for anyone to ponder that is curious
          > about the widespread claims that quantum physics is bogus and desperate.
          >
          > Frank Znidarsic worked on the NASA team that tested Dr. Podkletnov's
          > gravity anomaly with spinning superconductors.
          >
          > This video is just out today (Tuesday, July 13, 2010).  A Must see!
          >
          > *Source: *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr_s28wIOzQ *posted by
          > 'AlienScientist' (youtube.com)*
          >
          > "Richard Feynman once said "It doesn't matter how smart you are, or
          > how brilliant your theory is. If it doesn't agree with experiment,
          > it's WRONG!" If you happen to go by a Barnes and Noble's this month,
          > stop in and pick up a copy of the July Issue of Infinite Energy
          > Magazine and look for Frank Znidarsic's Article on the Duality of
          > Matter and Waves.
          >
          > I'd really like to see if this theory is wrong, but I don't think it
          > is. At least until someone can show me how and why it fails. So far
          > it's only given right answers. You get the Compton wave of the
          > electron, the radii and intensities of spectral emissions, and it
          > explains why everything looked so confusing through the only lenses
          > which 1930s science permitted.
          >
          > The mathematical achievements of the past century are astounding in
          > retrospect to such a simplified theory of quantum mechanics. Yet the
          > math gives us real answers, and tells us these abstract
          > hyperdimensional modelings was just the speed of light refracting
          > into the electron shell which behaves like a Bose Condensate. The
          > first Bose Condensate wasn't created until 2003, the great
          > scientists never performed experiments with large diameter rotating
          > superconductors, so how could they possibly have known or seen this???"
          >
          > "The Original Paper:
          > http://www.scribd.com/doc/25455268/Co...
          > <http://www.scribd.com/doc/25455268/Control-of-the-Natural-Forces>
          >
          > A-reconciliation-of-Quantum-Mechanics-an
          >
          > d-Special-Relativity: http://www.scribd.com/doc/33043355/A-...
          > <http://www.scribd.com/doc/33043355/A-reconciliation-of-Quantum-Mechanics-and-Special-Relativity>
          >
          >
          > Background and additional info:
          > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultravio...
          > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_catastrophe>
          > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpre...
          > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpretation_of_quantum_mechanics>
          >
          > Schrodinger and Dirac Equations:
          > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%...
          > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger_equation>
          > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_eq...
          > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_equation>
          >
          > Bose-Einstein Condensate:
          > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose%E2%...
          > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose%E2%80%93Einstein_condensate>
          >
          > Harvard Bose Condensates stop and restart light:
          > http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2...
          > <http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2001/01.24/01-stoplight.html>
          >
          > Frank Znidarsic:
          > "I was part of the NASA team and am in your pictures to prove it. We
          > attempted the experiment twice. In both attempts, we made several
          > large SC disks, but never developed the rotation apparatus to test
          > them." "
          >
          > -DonEMitchell posted 2010.07.13
          >
          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
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        • George Pantos
          problem is it is probably manipulated by the greys.. stay away from them.. ... From: TIm Wisener To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010
          Message 4 of 16 , Jul 15 2:18 PM
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            problem is it is probably manipulated by the greys.. stay away from them..
             
             
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            Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:12 PM
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            Check this out http://www.detailsh ere.com/tunnels. htm You dont think the U.S. government has all the technology they need?Along with Russia. Do think the oil spill and Hurricane Ivan was accidents? they are planning and inducing an economical collapse, most of the citizens sit around with their eyes and ears closed, knowing the whole time whats going on, its called denial. Just a book, but the tunnels and all are real, just how much of the rest is true, who knows. Maybe it is time for a NWO, just not theirs.Another note one way out of debt fast and thats a world war, tensions are building everyone feels it. So blackmail away


            From: George Pantos <gop6@comcast. net>
            To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
            Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 3:13:08 PM
            Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

            wow good stuff..  i have some very simplistic additions of my own, thru and
            understanding of hameltech. but i am blackmailing this country thru
            silence.. because i've had it with Isreali-U.S. policy and am waiting for
            the entire economy to go under within 10 years.. no reason these people
            should have anything.. especially something that might save their weak
            skins.. i'm going to sit and watch them drown..




            ----- Original Message -----
            From: "lady hawk" <tarabead@gmail. com>
            To: <hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com>
            Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:24 PM
            Subject: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic


            > This just came in from one of he Ormus Groups I subscribe to .
            > maybe some of you might find this interesting & useful.
            > T
            > (no editing done on this page)
            > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~
            > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
            > Subject: Fw: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
            >
            > ----- Forwarded Message ----
            > From: DonEMitchell <mitch@groupKOS. com>
            > To: DonEMitchell@ groupKOS. com
            > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 7:36:41 PM
            > Subject: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
            >
            >
            > KMTech, et al,
            > *
            > Errata*
            > This is a repost of the same article with the names corrected.
            >
            > Frank Znidarsic is the scientist with a breakthrough assembly of
            > classical physics against modern data from Bose-Einstein condensates and
            > nucleo-sonic (nuclear phonon) 'time-dilation' , ergo, light-speed
            > reduction, of the transition of an orbital electron to a different
            > electronic shell of an atom.
            >
            > When the measured electron wave transition found far (far) below
            > light-speed is considered against classical physics, Plank's constant is
            > explained to be the refractive index of a photon going from near
            > light-speed orbital velocity while bound in an electron shell, to the
            > velocity that a sonic wave travels on the positive wave-function of the
            > nucleus, the Coulomb field.
            >
            > The marvelous fit with modern alchemical sonic transmutation (E.G., of
            > salt to precious metals) and cold-fusion experiments, is the
            > experimental finding that the matter wave of a solid atomic lattice can
            > have the thermal energy polarized by an excited standing wave, such that
            > the whole of the matter lattice resonates as a whole with the
            > thermo-acoustic coherence to the exciting wave.
            >
            > While working with NASA attempting to duplicate the findings of Dr. Li,
            > Znidarsic's team found an harmonic constant that caused matter lattice
            > to behave as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC).
            >
            > This enables mathematical models using the transition event path of an
            > electron described as less than light speed, and harmonic at the same
            > frequency that the nucleus is phononically harmonic with electronic
            > pressures.  The coincidental frequencies are modeled by classical physics
            >
            > The harmonic frequency of the aether is found experimentally to be 1.094
            > million cycles per second-meter [e.g., a 1/3 meter disk is harmonic at 3
            > times 1.094 megaHertz].  This in effect is creation of a spin-gradient
            > across a macro-BEC that describes the standing wave.
            >
            > I'm sorry time and lack of illustration prevents a better projection to
            > your mind of the importance this theory holds as a new adhesive for
            > bright minds to ponder the applied science entailed by the ability to
            > morph a BEC sphere into a Golden Egg, for one [causing inertial
            > displacement of the unit due to asymmetry of the time-retardation well
            > near center of the spin axis].
            >
            > The following excerpt is from the post by 'AlienScientist' at youtube.com.
            >
            > DonEMitchell
            > http://groupKOS. com
            > http://portal. groupKOS. com/index. php?title= Control of the Natural Forces
            > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
            >
            > *Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
            > *
            >
            > This is a most excellent video for anyone to ponder that is curious
            > about the widespread claims that quantum physics is bogus and desperate.
            >
            > Frank Znidarsic worked on the NASA team that tested Dr. Podkletnov's
            > gravity anomaly with spinning superconductors.
            >
            > This video is just out today (Tuesday, July 13, 2010).  A Must see!
            >
            > *Source: *http://www. youtube.com/ watch?v=Rr_ s28wIOzQ *posted by
            > 'AlienScientist' (youtube.com) *
            >
            > "Richard Feynman once said "It doesn't matter how smart you are, or
            > how brilliant your theory is. If it doesn't agree with experiment,
            > it's WRONG!" If you happen to go by a Barnes and Noble's this month,
            > stop in and pick up a copy of the July Issue of Infinite Energy
            > Magazine and look for Frank Znidarsic's Article on the Duality of
            > Matter and Waves.
            >
            > I'd really like to see if this theory is wrong, but I don't think it
            > is. At least until someone can show me how and why it fails. So far
            > it's only given right answers. You get the Compton wave of the
            > electron, the radii and intensities of spectral emissions, and it
            > explains why everything looked so confusing through the only lenses
            > which 1930s science permitted.
            >
            > The mathematical achievements of the past century are astounding in
            > retrospect to such a simplified theory of quantum mechanics. Yet the
            > math gives us real answers, and tells us these abstract
            > hyperdimensional modelings was just the speed of light refracting
            > into the electron shell which behaves like a Bose Condensate. The
            > first Bose Condensate wasn't created until 2003, the great
            > scientists never performed experiments with large diameter rotating
            > superconductors, so how could they possibly have known or seen this???"
            >
            > "The Original Paper:
            > http://www.scribd. com/doc/25455268 /Co...
            > <http://www.scribd. com/doc/25455268 /Control- of-the-Natural- Forces>
            >
            > A-reconciliation- of-Quantum- Mechanics- an
            >
            > d-Special-Relativit y: http://www.scribd. com/doc/33043355 /A-...
            > <http://www.scribd. com/doc/33043355 /A-reconciliatio n-of-Quantum- Mechanics- and-Special- Relativity>
            >
            >
            > Background and additional info:
            > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ultravio. ..
            > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ultraviolet_ catastrophe>
            > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Interpre. ..
            > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Interpretation_ of_quantum_ mechanics>
            >
            > Schrodinger and Dirac Equations:
            > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schr%C3%. ..
            > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schr%C3%B6dinger _equation>
            > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dirac_eq. ..
            > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dirac_equation>
            >
            > Bose-Einstein Condensate:
            > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Bose%E2%. ..
            > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Bose%E2%80% 93Einstein_ condensate>
            >
            > Harvard Bose Condensates stop and restart light:
            > http://www.news. harvard.edu/ gazette/2. ..
            > <http://www.news. harvard.edu/ gazette/2001/ 01.24/01- stoplight. html>
            >
            > Frank Znidarsic:
            > "I was part of the NASA team and am in your pictures to prove it. We
            > attempted the experiment twice. In both attempts, we made several
            > large SC disks, but never developed the rotation apparatus to test
            > them." "
            >
            > -DonEMitchell posted 2010.07.13
            >
            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            >
            >
            >
            >
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          • George Pantos
            darth vader types.. that s who the govt. has allied themselves with.. ... From: George Pantos To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:18
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              darth vader types.. that's who the govt. has allied themselves with..
               
              ----- Original Message -----
              Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:18 PM
              Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

               

              problem is it is probably manipulated by the greys.. stay away from them..
               
               
              ----- Original Message -----
              Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:12 PM
              Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

               

              Check this out http://www.detailsh ere.com/tunnels. htm You dont think the U.S. government has all the technology they need?Along with Russia. Do think the oil spill and Hurricane Ivan was accidents? they are planning and inducing an economical collapse, most of the citizens sit around with their eyes and ears closed, knowing the whole time whats going on, its called denial. Just a book, but the tunnels and all are real, just how much of the rest is true, who knows. Maybe it is time for a NWO, just not theirs.Another note one way out of debt fast and thats a world war, tensions are building everyone feels it. So blackmail away


              From: George Pantos <gop6@comcast. net>
              To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
              Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 3:13:08 PM
              Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

              wow good stuff..  i have some very simplistic additions of my own, thru and
              understanding of hameltech. but i am blackmailing this country thru
              silence.. because i've had it with Isreali-U.S. policy and am waiting for
              the entire economy to go under within 10 years.. no reason these people
              should have anything.. especially something that might save their weak
              skins.. i'm going to sit and watch them drown..




              ----- Original Message -----
              From: "lady hawk" <tarabead@gmail. com>
              To: <hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com>
              Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:24 PM
              Subject: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic


              > This just came in from one of he Ormus Groups I subscribe to .
              > maybe some of you might find this interesting & useful.
              > T
              > (no editing done on this page)
              > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~
              > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
              > Subject: Fw: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
              >
              > ----- Forwarded Message ----
              > From: DonEMitchell <mitch@groupKOS. com>
              > To: DonEMitchell@ groupKOS. com
              > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 7:36:41 PM
              > Subject: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
              >
              >
              > KMTech, et al,
              > *
              > Errata*
              > This is a repost of the same article with the names corrected.
              >
              > Frank Znidarsic is the scientist with a breakthrough assembly of
              > classical physics against modern data from Bose-Einstein condensates and
              > nucleo-sonic (nuclear phonon) 'time-dilation' , ergo, light-speed
              > reduction, of the transition of an orbital electron to a different
              > electronic shell of an atom.
              >
              > When the measured electron wave transition found far (far) below
              > light-speed is considered against classical physics, Plank's constant is
              > explained to be the refractive index of a photon going from near
              > light-speed orbital velocity while bound in an electron shell, to the
              > velocity that a sonic wave travels on the positive wave-function of the
              > nucleus, the Coulomb field.
              >
              > The marvelous fit with modern alchemical sonic transmutation (E.G., of
              > salt to precious metals) and cold-fusion experiments, is the
              > experimental finding that the matter wave of a solid atomic lattice can
              > have the thermal energy polarized by an excited standing wave, such that
              > the whole of the matter lattice resonates as a whole with the
              > thermo-acoustic coherence to the exciting wave.
              >
              > While working with NASA attempting to duplicate the findings of Dr. Li,
              > Znidarsic's team found an harmonic constant that caused matter lattice
              > to behave as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC).
              >
              > This enables mathematical models using the transition event path of an
              > electron described as less than light speed, and harmonic at the same
              > frequency that the nucleus is phononically harmonic with electronic
              > pressures.  The coincidental frequencies are modeled by classical physics
              >
              > The harmonic frequency of the aether is found experimentally to be 1.094
              > million cycles per second-meter [e.g., a 1/3 meter disk is harmonic at 3
              > times 1.094 megaHertz].  This in effect is creation of a spin-gradient
              > across a macro-BEC that describes the standing wave.
              >
              > I'm sorry time and lack of illustration prevents a better projection to
              > your mind of the importance this theory holds as a new adhesive for
              > bright minds to ponder the applied science entailed by the ability to
              > morph a BEC sphere into a Golden Egg, for one [causing inertial
              > displacement of the unit due to asymmetry of the time-retardation well
              > near center of the spin axis].
              >
              > The following excerpt is from the post by 'AlienScientist' at youtube.com.
              >
              > DonEMitchell
              > http://groupKOS. com
              > http://portal. groupKOS. com/index. php?title= Control of the Natural Forces
              > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
              >
              > *Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
              > *
              >
              > This is a most excellent video for anyone to ponder that is curious
              > about the widespread claims that quantum physics is bogus and desperate.
              >
              > Frank Znidarsic worked on the NASA team that tested Dr. Podkletnov's
              > gravity anomaly with spinning superconductors.
              >
              > This video is just out today (Tuesday, July 13, 2010).  A Must see!
              >
              > *Source: *http://www. youtube.com/ watch?v=Rr_ s28wIOzQ *posted by
              > 'AlienScientist' (youtube.com) *
              >
              > "Richard Feynman once said "It doesn't matter how smart you are, or
              > how brilliant your theory is. If it doesn't agree with experiment,
              > it's WRONG!" If you happen to go by a Barnes and Noble's this month,
              > stop in and pick up a copy of the July Issue of Infinite Energy
              > Magazine and look for Frank Znidarsic's Article on the Duality of
              > Matter and Waves.
              >
              > I'd really like to see if this theory is wrong, but I don't think it
              > is. At least until someone can show me how and why it fails. So far
              > it's only given right answers. You get the Compton wave of the
              > electron, the radii and intensities of spectral emissions, and it
              > explains why everything looked so confusing through the only lenses
              > which 1930s science permitted.
              >
              > The mathematical achievements of the past century are astounding in
              > retrospect to such a simplified theory of quantum mechanics. Yet the
              > math gives us real answers, and tells us these abstract
              > hyperdimensional modelings was just the speed of light refracting
              > into the electron shell which behaves like a Bose Condensate. The
              > first Bose Condensate wasn't created until 2003, the great
              > scientists never performed experiments with large diameter rotating
              > superconductors, so how could they possibly have known or seen this???"
              >
              > "The Original Paper:
              > http://www.scribd. com/doc/25455268 /Co...
              > <http://www.scribd. com/doc/25455268 /Control- of-the-Natural- Forces>
              >
              > A-reconciliation- of-Quantum- Mechanics- an
              >
              > d-Special-Relativit y: http://www.scribd. com/doc/33043355 /A-...
              > <http://www.scribd. com/doc/33043355 /A-reconciliatio n-of-Quantum- Mechanics- and-Special- Relativity>
              >
              >
              > Background and additional info:
              > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ultravio. ..
              > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ultraviolet_ catastrophe>
              > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Interpre. ..
              > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Interpretation_ of_quantum_ mechanics>
              >
              > Schrodinger and Dirac Equations:
              > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schr%C3%. ..
              > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schr%C3%B6dinger _equation>
              > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dirac_eq. ..
              > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dirac_equation>
              >
              > Bose-Einstein Condensate:
              > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Bose%E2%. ..
              > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Bose%E2%80% 93Einstein_ condensate>
              >
              > Harvard Bose Condensates stop and restart light:
              > http://www.news. harvard.edu/ gazette/2. ..
              > <http://www.news. harvard.edu/ gazette/2001/ 01.24/01- stoplight. html>
              >
              > Frank Znidarsic:
              > "I was part of the NASA team and am in your pictures to prove it. We
              > attempted the experiment twice. In both attempts, we made several
              > large SC disks, but never developed the rotation apparatus to test
              > them." "
              >
              > -DonEMitchell posted 2010.07.13
              >
              > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
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            • TIm Wisener
              Off topic here but since this group is got ppl from all over I was curious, after reading about crash sights and alloys snuck from the sight, has anyone ever
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                Off topic here but since this group is got ppl from all over I was curious, after reading about crash sights and alloys snuck from the sight, has anyone ever heard or know of anyone that produces. Zalnac, think thats how its spelled. 78% zinc 22% aluminum. has the strength of steel, light as aluminum and its super flexible. I found it month or so back checking on different mixtures of metals, It was trademarked late 70's or so but the trail ends there. another note. I'm American born and raised, love this country, but It kills me to see what we are letting or turning into. When it comes to ppl like Mr. Hamel, J L Naudin labs, and others world wide. much love and respect.This is the kind of ppl we should have as leaders, they arent in just for themselves, we owe em thx


                From: George Pantos <gop6@...>
                To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 4:21:53 PM
                Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                 

                darth vader types.. that's who the govt. has allied themselves with..
                 
                ----- Original Message -----
                Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:18 PM
                Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                 

                problem is it is probably manipulated by the greys.. stay away from them..
                 
                 
                ----- Original Message -----
                Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:12 PM
                Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                 

                Check this out http://www.detailsh ere.com/tunnels. htm You dont think the U.S. government has all the technology they need?Along with Russia. Do think the oil spill and Hurricane Ivan was accidents? they are planning and inducing an economical collapse, most of the citizens sit around with their eyes and ears closed, knowing the whole time whats going on, its called denial. Just a book, but the tunnels and all are real, just how much of the rest is true, who knows. Maybe it is time for a NWO, just not theirs.Another note one way out of debt fast and thats a world war, tensions are building everyone feels it. So blackmail away


                From: George Pantos <gop6@comcast. net>
                To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
                Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 3:13:08 PM
                Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                wow good stuff..  i have some very simplistic additions of my own, thru and
                understanding of hameltech. but i am blackmailing this country thru
                silence.. because i've had it with Isreali-U.S. policy and am waiting for
                the entire economy to go under within 10 years.. no reason these people
                should have anything.. especially something that might save their weak
                skins.. i'm going to sit and watch them drown..




                ----- Original Message -----
                From: "lady hawk" <tarabead@gmail. com>
                To: <hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com>
                Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:24 PM
                Subject: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic


                > This just came in from one of he Ormus Groups I subscribe to .
                > maybe some of you might find this interesting & useful.
                > T
                > (no editing done on this page)
                > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~
                > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
                > Subject: Fw: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                >
                > ----- Forwarded Message ----
                > From: DonEMitchell <mitch@groupKOS. com>
                > To: DonEMitchell@ groupKOS. com
                > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 7:36:41 PM
                > Subject: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                >
                >
                > KMTech, et al,
                > *
                > Errata*
                > This is a repost of the same article with the names corrected.
                >
                > Frank Znidarsic is the scientist with a breakthrough assembly of
                > classical physics against modern data from Bose-Einstein condensates and
                > nucleo-sonic (nuclear phonon) 'time-dilation' , ergo, light-speed
                > reduction, of the transition of an orbital electron to a different
                > electronic shell of an atom.
                >
                > When the measured electron wave transition found far (far) below
                > light-speed is considered against classical physics, Plank's constant is
                > explained to be the refractive index of a photon going from near
                > light-speed orbital velocity while bound in an electron shell, to the
                > velocity that a sonic wave travels on the positive wave-function of the
                > nucleus, the Coulomb field.
                >
                > The marvelous fit with modern alchemical sonic transmutation (E.G., of
                > salt to precious metals) and cold-fusion experiments, is the
                > experimental finding that the matter wave of a solid atomic lattice can
                > have the thermal energy polarized by an excited standing wave, such that
                > the whole of the matter lattice resonates as a whole with the
                > thermo-acoustic coherence to the exciting wave.
                >
                > While working with NASA attempting to duplicate the findings of Dr. Li,
                > Znidarsic's team found an harmonic constant that caused matter lattice
                > to behave as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC).
                >
                > This enables mathematical models using the transition event path of an
                > electron described as less than light speed, and harmonic at the same
                > frequency that the nucleus is phononically harmonic with electronic
                > pressures.  The coincidental frequencies are modeled by classical physics
                >
                > The harmonic frequency of the aether is found experimentally to be 1.094
                > million cycles per second-meter [e.g., a 1/3 meter disk is harmonic at 3
                > times 1.094 megaHertz].  This in effect is creation of a spin-gradient
                > across a macro-BEC that describes the standing wave.
                >
                > I'm sorry time and lack of illustration prevents a better projection to
                > your mind of the importance this theory holds as a new adhesive for
                > bright minds to ponder the applied science entailed by the ability to
                > morph a BEC sphere into a Golden Egg, for one [causing inertial
                > displacement of the unit due to asymmetry of the time-retardation well
                > near center of the spin axis].
                >
                > The following excerpt is from the post by 'AlienScientist' at youtube.com.
                >
                > DonEMitchell
                > http://groupKOS. com
                > http://portal. groupKOS. com/index. php?title= Control of the Natural Forces
                > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
                >
                > *Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                > *
                >
                > This is a most excellent video for anyone to ponder that is curious
                > about the widespread claims that quantum physics is bogus and desperate.
                >
                > Frank Znidarsic worked on the NASA team that tested Dr. Podkletnov's
                > gravity anomaly with spinning superconductors.
                >
                > This video is just out today (Tuesday, July 13, 2010).  A Must see!
                >
                > *Source: *http://www. youtube.com/ watch?v=Rr_ s28wIOzQ *posted by
                > 'AlienScientist' (youtube.com) *
                >
                > "Richard Feynman once said "It doesn't matter how smart you are, or
                > how brilliant your theory is. If it doesn't agree with experiment,
                > it's WRONG!" If you happen to go by a Barnes and Noble's this month,
                > stop in and pick up a copy of the July Issue of Infinite Energy
                > Magazine and look for Frank Znidarsic's Article on the Duality of
                > Matter and Waves.
                >
                > I'd really like to see if this theory is wrong, but I don't think it
                > is. At least until someone can show me how and why it fails. So far
                > it's only given right answers. You get the Compton wave of the
                > electron, the radii and intensities of spectral emissions, and it
                > explains why everything looked so confusing through the only lenses
                > which 1930s science permitted.
                >
                > The mathematical achievements of the past century are astounding in
                > retrospect to such a simplified theory of quantum mechanics. Yet the
                > math gives us real answers, and tells us these abstract
                > hyperdimensional modelings was just the speed of light refracting
                > into the electron shell which behaves like a Bose Condensate. The
                > first Bose Condensate wasn't created until 2003, the great
                > scientists never performed experiments with large diameter rotating
                > superconductors, so how could they possibly have known or seen this???"
                >
                > "The Original Paper:
                > http://www.scribd. com/doc/25455268 /Co...
                > <http://www.scribd. com/doc/25455268 /Control- of-the-Natural- Forces>
                >
                > A-reconciliation- of-Quantum- Mechanics- an
                >
                > d-Special-Relativit y: http://www.scribd. com/doc/33043355 /A-...
                > <http://www.scribd. com/doc/33043355 /A-reconciliatio n-of-Quantum- Mechanics- and-Special- Relativity>
                >
                >
                > Background and additional info:
                > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ultravio. ..
                > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ultraviolet_ catastrophe>
                > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Interpre. ..
                > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Interpretation_ of_quantum_ mechanics>
                >
                > Schrodinger and Dirac Equations:
                > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schr%C3%. ..
                > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schr%C3%B6dinger _equation>
                > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dirac_eq. ..
                > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dirac_equation>
                >
                > Bose-Einstein Condensate:
                > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Bose%E2%. ..
                > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Bose%E2%80% 93Einstein_ condensate>
                >
                > Harvard Bose Condensates stop and restart light:
                > http://www.news. harvard.edu/ gazette/2. ..
                > <http://www.news. harvard.edu/ gazette/2001/ 01.24/01- stoplight. html>
                >
                > Frank Znidarsic:
                > "I was part of the NASA team and am in your pictures to prove it. We
                > attempted the experiment twice. In both attempts, we made several
                > large SC disks, but never developed the rotation apparatus to test
                > them." "
                >
                > -DonEMitchell posted 2010.07.13
                >
                > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                >
                >
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              • George Pantos
                are u saying we should let the suitcase fly into the air into the crowd below..? at this point i think everyone loses with that strategy.. me most of all.. ...
                Message 7 of 16 , Jul 15 2:41 PM
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                  are u saying we should let the suitcase fly into the air into the crowd below..? at this point i think everyone loses with that strategy.. me most of all..
                   
                   
                  ----- Original Message -----
                  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:35 PM
                  Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                   

                  Off topic here but since this group is got ppl from all over I was curious, after reading about crash sights and alloys snuck from the sight, has anyone ever heard or know of anyone that produces. Zalnac, think thats how its spelled. 78% zinc 22% aluminum. has the strength of steel, light as aluminum and its super flexible. I found it month or so back checking on different mixtures of metals, It was trademarked late 70's or so but the trail ends there. another note. I'm American born and raised, love this country, but It kills me to see what we are letting or turning into. When it comes to ppl like Mr. Hamel, J L Naudin labs, and others world wide. much love and respect.This is the kind of ppl we should have as leaders, they arent in just for themselves, we owe em thx


                  From: George Pantos <gop6@comcast. net>
                  To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
                  Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 4:21:53 PM
                  Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                   

                  darth vader types.. that's who the govt. has allied themselves with..
                   
                  ----- Original Message -----
                  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:18 PM
                  Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                   

                  problem is it is probably manipulated by the greys.. stay away from them..
                   
                   
                  ----- Original Message -----
                  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:12 PM
                  Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                   

                  Check this out http://www.detailsh ere.com/tunnels. htm You dont think the U.S. government has all the technology they need?Along with Russia. Do think the oil spill and Hurricane Ivan was accidents? they are planning and inducing an economical collapse, most of the citizens sit around with their eyes and ears closed, knowing the whole time whats going on, its called denial. Just a book, but the tunnels and all are real, just how much of the rest is true, who knows. Maybe it is time for a NWO, just not theirs.Another note one way out of debt fast and thats a world war, tensions are building everyone feels it. So blackmail away


                  From: George Pantos <gop6@comcast. net>
                  To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
                  Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 3:13:08 PM
                  Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                  wow good stuff..  i have some very simplistic additions of my own, thru and
                  understanding of hameltech. but i am blackmailing this country thru
                  silence.. because i've had it with Isreali-U.S. policy and am waiting for
                  the entire economy to go under within 10 years.. no reason these people
                  should have anything.. especially something that might save their weak
                  skins.. i'm going to sit and watch them drown..




                  ----- Original Message -----
                  From: "lady hawk" <tarabead@gmail. com>
                  To: <hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com>
                  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:24 PM
                  Subject: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic


                  > This just came in from one of he Ormus Groups I subscribe to .
                  > maybe some of you might find this interesting & useful.
                  > T
                  > (no editing done on this page)
                  > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~
                  > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
                  > Subject: Fw: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                  >
                  > ----- Forwarded Message ----
                  > From: DonEMitchell <mitch@groupKOS. com>
                  > To: DonEMitchell@ groupKOS. com
                  > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 7:36:41 PM
                  > Subject: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                  >
                  >
                  > KMTech, et al,
                  > *
                  > Errata*
                  > This is a repost of the same article with the names corrected.
                  >
                  > Frank Znidarsic is the scientist with a breakthrough assembly of
                  > classical physics against modern data from Bose-Einstein condensates and
                  > nucleo-sonic (nuclear phonon) 'time-dilation' , ergo, light-speed
                  > reduction, of the transition of an orbital electron to a different
                  > electronic shell of an atom.
                  >
                  > When the measured electron wave transition found far (far) below
                  > light-speed is considered against classical physics, Plank's constant is
                  > explained to be the refractive index of a photon going from near
                  > light-speed orbital velocity while bound in an electron shell, to the
                  > velocity that a sonic wave travels on the positive wave-function of the
                  > nucleus, the Coulomb field.
                  >
                  > The marvelous fit with modern alchemical sonic transmutation (E.G., of
                  > salt to precious metals) and cold-fusion experiments, is the
                  > experimental finding that the matter wave of a solid atomic lattice can
                  > have the thermal energy polarized by an excited standing wave, such that
                  > the whole of the matter lattice resonates as a whole with the
                  > thermo-acoustic coherence to the exciting wave.
                  >
                  > While working with NASA attempting to duplicate the findings of Dr. Li,
                  > Znidarsic's team found an harmonic constant that caused matter lattice
                  > to behave as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC).
                  >
                  > This enables mathematical models using the transition event path of an
                  > electron described as less than light speed, and harmonic at the same
                  > frequency that the nucleus is phononically harmonic with electronic
                  > pressures.  The coincidental frequencies are modeled by classical physics
                  >
                  > The harmonic frequency of the aether is found experimentally to be 1.094
                  > million cycles per second-meter [e.g., a 1/3 meter disk is harmonic at 3
                  > times 1.094 megaHertz].  This in effect is creation of a spin-gradient
                  > across a macro-BEC that describes the standing wave.
                  >
                  > I'm sorry time and lack of illustration prevents a better projection to
                  > your mind of the importance this theory holds as a new adhesive for
                  > bright minds to ponder the applied science entailed by the ability to
                  > morph a BEC sphere into a Golden Egg, for one [causing inertial
                  > displacement of the unit due to asymmetry of the time-retardation well
                  > near center of the spin axis].
                  >
                  > The following excerpt is from the post by 'AlienScientist' at youtube.com.
                  >
                  > DonEMitchell
                  > http://groupKOS. com
                  > http://portal. groupKOS. com/index. php?title= Control of the Natural Forces
                  > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
                  >
                  > *Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                  > *
                  >
                  > This is a most excellent video for anyone to ponder that is curious
                  > about the widespread claims that quantum physics is bogus and desperate.
                  >
                  > Frank Znidarsic worked on the NASA team that tested Dr. Podkletnov's
                  > gravity anomaly with spinning superconductors.
                  >
                  > This video is just out today (Tuesday, July 13, 2010).  A Must see!
                  >
                  > *Source: *http://www. youtube.com/ watch?v=Rr_ s28wIOzQ *posted by
                  > 'AlienScientist' (youtube.com) *
                  >
                  > "Richard Feynman once said "It doesn't matter how smart you are, or
                  > how brilliant your theory is. If it doesn't agree with experiment,
                  > it's WRONG!" If you happen to go by a Barnes and Noble's this month,
                  > stop in and pick up a copy of the July Issue of Infinite Energy
                  > Magazine and look for Frank Znidarsic's Article on the Duality of
                  > Matter and Waves.
                  >
                  > I'd really like to see if this theory is wrong, but I don't think it
                  > is. At least until someone can show me how and why it fails. So far
                  > it's only given right answers. You get the Compton wave of the
                  > electron, the radii and intensities of spectral emissions, and it
                  > explains why everything looked so confusing through the only lenses
                  > which 1930s science permitted.
                  >
                  > The mathematical achievements of the past century are astounding in
                  > retrospect to such a simplified theory of quantum mechanics. Yet the
                  > math gives us real answers, and tells us these abstract
                  > hyperdimensional modelings was just the speed of light refracting
                  > into the electron shell which behaves like a Bose Condensate. The
                  > first Bose Condensate wasn't created until 2003, the great
                  > scientists never performed experiments with large diameter rotating
                  > superconductors, so how could they possibly have known or seen this???"
                  >
                  > "The Original Paper:
                  > http://www.scribd. com/doc/25455268 /Co...
                  > <http://www.scribd. com/doc/25455268 /Control- of-the-Natural- Forces>
                  >
                  > A-reconciliation- of-Quantum- Mechanics- an
                  >
                  > d-Special-Relativit y: http://www.scribd. com/doc/33043355 /A-...
                  > <http://www.scribd. com/doc/33043355 /A-reconciliatio n-of-Quantum- Mechanics- and-Special- Relativity>
                  >
                  >
                  > Background and additional info:
                  > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ultravio. ..
                  > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ultraviolet_ catastrophe>
                  > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Interpre. ..
                  > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Interpretation_ of_quantum_ mechanics>
                  >
                  > Schrodinger and Dirac Equations:
                  > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schr%C3%. ..
                  > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schr%C3%B6dinger _equation>
                  > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dirac_eq. ..
                  > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dirac_equation>
                  >
                  > Bose-Einstein Condensate:
                  > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Bose%E2%. ..
                  > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Bose%E2%80% 93Einstein_ condensate>
                  >
                  > Harvard Bose Condensates stop and restart light:
                  > http://www.news. harvard.edu/ gazette/2. ..
                  > <http://www.news. harvard.edu/ gazette/2001/ 01.24/01- stoplight. html>
                  >
                  > Frank Znidarsic:
                  > "I was part of the NASA team and am in your pictures to prove it. We
                  > attempted the experiment twice. In both attempts, we made several
                  > large SC disks, but never developed the rotation apparatus to test
                  > them." "
                  >
                  > -DonEMitchell posted 2010.07.13
                  >
                  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
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                • Mike
                  Hi Tim, ZAMAK is one of the most widely used materials in automotive low stress devices, because it has a very low melting point & is so easy to melt and
                  Message 8 of 16 , Jul 15 4:39 PM
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                    Hi Tim,

                               ZAMAK is one of the most widely used materials in automotive low stress devices, because it has a very low melting point & is so easy to melt and injection mould, very malleable. The casting (or moulding) in the end of the windscreen wiper motor is the most common visible use, and many other instances; nothing fancy at all!

                    I think you need to regauge your opinion!

                    I don’t often post, but always will to prevent a simple alloy becoming a ‘mysterious super strength secret material.’(We in the trade call it S*** metal, so easy to bend or break flanges; but of course ideal for the use intended!

                    Earlier mixes, like Zinc itself tend to corrode rapidly if exposed to dampness and a ‘less noble’ metal in proximity; later mixes have another trace element added to alleviate this somewhat. I suspect that your Zinc Carbon battery may have its case made of this!

                     

                    Mike.

                     

                    Mike. j. Furness

                     


                    From: hameltech@yahoogroups.com [mailto: hameltech@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of TIm Wisener
                    Sent: 15 July 2010 22:36
                    To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: [SPAM] Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                     

                     

                    Off topic here but since this group is got ppl from all over I was curious, after reading about crash sights and alloys snuck from the sight, has anyone ever heard or know of anyone that produces. Zalnac, think thats how its spelled. 78% zinc 22% aluminum. has the strength of steel, light as aluminum and its super flexible. I found it month or so back checking on different mixtures of metals, It was trademarked late 70's or so but the trail ends there. another note. I'm American born and raised, love this country, but It kills me to see what we are letting or turning into. When it comes to ppl like Mr. Hamel, J L Naudin labs, and others world wide. much love and respect.This is the kind of ppl we should have as leaders, they arent in just for themselves, we owe em thx

                     


                    From: George Pantos <gop6@comcast. net>
                    To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
                    Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 4:21:53 PM
                    Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                     

                    darth vader types.. that's who the govt. has allied themselves with..

                     

                    ----- Original Message -----

                    Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:18 PM

                    Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                     

                     

                    problem is it is probably manipulated by the greys.. stay away from them..

                     

                     

                    ----- Original Message -----

                    Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:12 PM

                    Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                     

                     

                    Check this out http://www.detailsh ere.com/tunnels. htm You dont think the U.S. government has all the technology they need?Along with Russia . Do think the oil spill and Hurricane Ivan was accidents? they are planning and inducing an economical collapse, most of the citizens sit around with their eyes and ears closed, knowing the whole time whats going on, its called denial. Just a book, but the tunnels and all are real, just how much of the rest is true, who knows. Maybe it is time for a NWO, just not theirs.Another note one way out of debt fast and thats a world war, tensions are building everyone feels it. So blackmail away

                     


                    From: George Pantos <gop6@comcast. net>
                    To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
                    Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 3:13:08 PM
                    Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                    wow good stuff..  i have some very simplistic additions of my own, thru and
                    understanding of hameltech. but i am blackmailing this country thru
                    silence.. because i've had it with Isreali-U.S. policy and am waiting for
                    the entire economy to go under within 10 years.. no reason these people
                    should have anything.. especially something that might save their weak
                    skins.. i'm going to sit and watch them drown..




                    ----- Original Message -----
                    From: "lady hawk" <tarabead@gmail. com>
                    To: <hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com>
                    Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:24 PM
                    Subject: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic


                    > This just came in from one of he Ormus Groups I subscribe to .
                    > maybe some of you might find this interesting & useful.
                    > T
                    > (no editing done on this page)
                    > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~
                    > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
                    > Subject: Fw: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                    >
                    > ----- Forwarded Message ----
                    > From: DonEMitchell <mitch@groupKOS. com>
                    > To: DonEMitchell@ groupKOS. com
                    > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 7:36:41 PM
                    > Subject: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                    >
                    >
                    > KMTech, et al,
                    > *
                    > Errata*
                    > This is a repost of the same article with the names corrected.
                    >
                    > Frank Znidarsic is the scientist with a breakthrough assembly of
                    > classical physics against modern data from Bose-Einstein condensates and
                    > nucleo-sonic (nuclear phonon) 'time-dilation' , ergo, light-speed
                    > reduction, of the transition of an orbital electron to a different
                    > electronic shell of an atom.
                    >
                    > When the measured electron wave transition found far (far) below
                    > light-speed is considered against classical physics, Plank's constant is
                    > explained to be the refractive index of a photon going from near
                    > light-speed orbital velocity while bound in an electron shell, to the
                    > velocity that a sonic wave travels on the positive wave-function of the
                    > nucleus, the Coulomb field.
                    >
                    > The marvelous fit with modern alchemical sonic transmutation (E.G., of
                    > salt to precious metals) and cold-fusion experiments, is the
                    > experimental finding that the matter wave of a solid atomic lattice can
                    > have the thermal energy polarized by an excited standing wave, such that
                    > the whole of the matter lattice resonates as a whole with the
                    > thermo-acoustic coherence to the exciting wave.
                    >
                    > While working with NASA attempting to duplicate the findings of Dr. Li,
                    > Znidarsic's team found an harmonic constant that caused matter lattice
                    > to behave as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC).
                    >
                    > This enables mathematical models using the transition event path of an
                    > electron described as less than light speed, and harmonic at the same
                    > frequency that the nucleus is phononically harmonic with electronic
                    > pressures.  The coincidental frequencies are modeled by classical physics
                    >
                    > The harmonic frequency of the aether is found experimentally to be 1.094
                    > million cycles per second-meter [e.g., a 1/3 meter disk is harmonic at 3
                    > times 1.094 megaHertz].  This in effect is creation of a spin-gradient
                    > across a macro-BEC that describes the standing wave.
                    >
                    > I'm sorry time and lack of illustration prevents a better projection to
                    > your mind of the importance this theory holds as a new adhesive for
                    > bright minds to ponder the applied science entailed by the ability to
                    > morph a BEC sphere into a Golden Egg, for one [causing inertial
                    > displacement of the unit due to asymmetry of the time-retardation well
                    > near center of the spin axis].
                    >
                    > The following excerpt is from the post by 'AlienScientist' at youtube.com.
                    >
                    > DonEMitchell
                    > http://groupKOS. com
                    > http://portal. groupKOS. com/index. php?title= Control of the Natural Forces
                    > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
                    >
                    > *Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                    > *
                    >
                    > This is a most excellent video for anyone to ponder that is curious
                    > about the widespread claims that quantum physics is bogus and desperate.
                    >
                    > Frank Znidarsic worked on the NASA team that tested Dr. Podkletnov's
                    > gravity anomaly with spinning superconductors.
                    >
                    > This video is just out today (Tuesday, July 13, 2010).  A Must see!
                    >
                    > *Source: *http://www. youtube.com/ watch?v=Rr_ s28wIOzQ *posted by
                    > 'AlienScientist' (youtube.com) *
                    >
                    > "Richard Feynman once said "It doesn't matter how smart you are, or
                    > how brilliant your theory is. If it doesn't agree with experiment,
                    > it's WRONG!" If you happen to go by a Barnes and Noble's this month,
                    > stop in and pick up a copy of the July Issue of Infinite Energy
                    > Magazine and look for Frank Znidarsic's Article on the Duality of
                    > Matter and Waves.
                    >
                    > I'd really like to see if this theory is wrong, but I don't think it
                    > is. At least until someone can show me how and why it fails. So far
                    > it's only given right answers. You get the Compton wave of the
                    > electron, the radii and intensities of spectral emissions, and it
                    > explains why everything looked so confusing through the only lenses
                    > which 1930s science permitted.
                    >
                    > The mathematical achievements of the past century are astounding in
                    > retrospect to such a simplified theory of quantum mechanics. Yet the
                    > math gives us real answers, and tells us these abstract
                    > hyperdimensional modelings was just the speed of light refracting
                    > into the electron shell which behaves like a Bose Condensate. The
                    > first Bose Condensate wasn't created until 2003, the great
                    > scientists never performed experiments with large diameter rotating
                    > superconductors, so how could they possibly have known or seen this???"
                    >
                    > "The Original Paper:
                    > http://www.scribd. com/doc/25455268 /Co...
                    > <http://www.scribd. com/doc/25455268 /Control- of-the-Natural- Forces>
                    >
                    > A-reconciliation- of-Quantum- Mechanics- an
                    >
                    > d-Special-Relativit y: http://www.scribd. com/doc/33043355 /A-...
                    > <http://www.scribd. com/doc/33043355 /A-reconciliatio n-of-Quantum- Mechanics- and-Special- Relativity>
                    >
                    >
                    > Background and additional info:
                    > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ultravio. ..
                    > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ultraviolet_ catastrophe>
                    > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Interpre. ..
                    > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Interpretation_ of_quantum_ mechanics>
                    >
                    > Schrodinger and Dirac Equations:
                    > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schr%C3%. ..
                    > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schr%C3%B6dinger _equation>
                    > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dirac_eq. ..
                    > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dirac_equation>
                    >
                    > Bose-Einstein Condensate:
                    > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Bose%E2%. ..
                    > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Bose%E2%80% 93Einstein_ condensate>
                    >
                    > Harvard Bose Condensates stop and restart light:
                    > http://www.news. harvard.edu/ gazette/2. ..
                    > <http://www.news. harvard.edu/ gazette/2001/ 01.24/01- stoplight. html>
                    >
                    > Frank Znidarsic:
                    > "I was part of the NASA team and am in your pictures to prove it. We
                    > attempted the experiment twice. In both attempts, we made several
                    > large SC disks, but never developed the rotation apparatus to test
                    > them." "
                    >
                    > -DonEMitchell posted 2010.07.13
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                  • George Pantos
                    with my understanding of Hamel s theory, i think a natural part of this is the transmutation of elements.. ... From: George Pantos To:
                    Message 9 of 16 , Jul 15 6:01 PM
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                      with my understanding of Hamel's theory, i think a natural part of this is the transmutation of elements..
                       
                       
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                      Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:18 PM
                      Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                       

                      problem is it is probably manipulated by the greys.. stay away from them..
                       
                       
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                      Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:12 PM
                      Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                       

                      Check this out http://www.detailsh ere.com/tunnels. htm You dont think the U.S. government has all the technology they need?Along with Russia. Do think the oil spill and Hurricane Ivan was accidents? they are planning and inducing an economical collapse, most of the citizens sit around with their eyes and ears closed, knowing the whole time whats going on, its called denial. Just a book, but the tunnels and all are real, just how much of the rest is true, who knows. Maybe it is time for a NWO, just not theirs.Another note one way out of debt fast and thats a world war, tensions are building everyone feels it. So blackmail away


                      From: George Pantos <gop6@comcast. net>
                      To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
                      Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 3:13:08 PM
                      Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                      wow good stuff..  i have some very simplistic additions of my own, thru and
                      understanding of hameltech. but i am blackmailing this country thru
                      silence.. because i've had it with Isreali-U.S. policy and am waiting for
                      the entire economy to go under within 10 years.. no reason these people
                      should have anything.. especially something that might save their weak
                      skins.. i'm going to sit and watch them drown..




                      ----- Original Message -----
                      From: "lady hawk" <tarabead@gmail. com>
                      To: <hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com>
                      Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:24 PM
                      Subject: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic


                      > This just came in from one of he Ormus Groups I subscribe to .
                      > maybe some of you might find this interesting & useful.
                      > T
                      > (no editing done on this page)
                      > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~
                      > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
                      > Subject: Fw: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                      >
                      > ----- Forwarded Message ----
                      > From: DonEMitchell <mitch@groupKOS. com>
                      > To: DonEMitchell@ groupKOS. com
                      > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 7:36:41 PM
                      > Subject: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                      >
                      >
                      > KMTech, et al,
                      > *
                      > Errata*
                      > This is a repost of the same article with the names corrected.
                      >
                      > Frank Znidarsic is the scientist with a breakthrough assembly of
                      > classical physics against modern data from Bose-Einstein condensates and
                      > nucleo-sonic (nuclear phonon) 'time-dilation' , ergo, light-speed
                      > reduction, of the transition of an orbital electron to a different
                      > electronic shell of an atom.
                      >
                      > When the measured electron wave transition found far (far) below
                      > light-speed is considered against classical physics, Plank's constant is
                      > explained to be the refractive index of a photon going from near
                      > light-speed orbital velocity while bound in an electron shell, to the
                      > velocity that a sonic wave travels on the positive wave-function of the
                      > nucleus, the Coulomb field.
                      >
                      > The marvelous fit with modern alchemical sonic transmutation (E.G., of
                      > salt to precious metals) and cold-fusion experiments, is the
                      > experimental finding that the matter wave of a solid atomic lattice can
                      > have the thermal energy polarized by an excited standing wave, such that
                      > the whole of the matter lattice resonates as a whole with the
                      > thermo-acoustic coherence to the exciting wave.
                      >
                      > While working with NASA attempting to duplicate the findings of Dr. Li,
                      > Znidarsic's team found an harmonic constant that caused matter lattice
                      > to behave as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC).
                      >
                      > This enables mathematical models using the transition event path of an
                      > electron described as less than light speed, and harmonic at the same
                      > frequency that the nucleus is phononically harmonic with electronic
                      > pressures.  The coincidental frequencies are modeled by classical physics
                      >
                      > The harmonic frequency of the aether is found experimentally to be 1.094
                      > million cycles per second-meter [e.g., a 1/3 meter disk is harmonic at 3
                      > times 1.094 megaHertz].  This in effect is creation of a spin-gradient
                      > across a macro-BEC that describes the standing wave.
                      >
                      > I'm sorry time and lack of illustration prevents a better projection to
                      > your mind of the importance this theory holds as a new adhesive for
                      > bright minds to ponder the applied science entailed by the ability to
                      > morph a BEC sphere into a Golden Egg, for one [causing inertial
                      > displacement of the unit due to asymmetry of the time-retardation well
                      > near center of the spin axis].
                      >
                      > The following excerpt is from the post by 'AlienScientist' at youtube.com.
                      >
                      > DonEMitchell
                      > http://groupKOS. com
                      > http://portal. groupKOS. com/index. php?title= Control of the Natural Forces
                      > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
                      >
                      > *Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                      > *
                      >
                      > This is a most excellent video for anyone to ponder that is curious
                      > about the widespread claims that quantum physics is bogus and desperate.
                      >
                      > Frank Znidarsic worked on the NASA team that tested Dr. Podkletnov's
                      > gravity anomaly with spinning superconductors.
                      >
                      > This video is just out today (Tuesday, July 13, 2010).  A Must see!
                      >
                      > *Source: *http://www. youtube.com/ watch?v=Rr_ s28wIOzQ *posted by
                      > 'AlienScientist' (youtube.com) *
                      >
                      > "Richard Feynman once said "It doesn't matter how smart you are, or
                      > how brilliant your theory is. If it doesn't agree with experiment,
                      > it's WRONG!" If you happen to go by a Barnes and Noble's this month,
                      > stop in and pick up a copy of the July Issue of Infinite Energy
                      > Magazine and look for Frank Znidarsic's Article on the Duality of
                      > Matter and Waves.
                      >
                      > I'd really like to see if this theory is wrong, but I don't think it
                      > is. At least until someone can show me how and why it fails. So far
                      > it's only given right answers. You get the Compton wave of the
                      > electron, the radii and intensities of spectral emissions, and it
                      > explains why everything looked so confusing through the only lenses
                      > which 1930s science permitted.
                      >
                      > The mathematical achievements of the past century are astounding in
                      > retrospect to such a simplified theory of quantum mechanics. Yet the
                      > math gives us real answers, and tells us these abstract
                      > hyperdimensional modelings was just the speed of light refracting
                      > into the electron shell which behaves like a Bose Condensate. The
                      > first Bose Condensate wasn't created until 2003, the great
                      > scientists never performed experiments with large diameter rotating
                      > superconductors, so how could they possibly have known or seen this???"
                      >
                      > "The Original Paper:
                      > http://www.scribd. com/doc/25455268 /Co...
                      > <http://www.scribd. com/doc/25455268 /Control- of-the-Natural- Forces>
                      >
                      > A-reconciliation- of-Quantum- Mechanics- an
                      >
                      > d-Special-Relativit y: http://www.scribd. com/doc/33043355 /A-...
                      > <http://www.scribd. com/doc/33043355 /A-reconciliatio n-of-Quantum- Mechanics- and-Special- Relativity>
                      >
                      >
                      > Background and additional info:
                      > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ultravio. ..
                      > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ultraviolet_ catastrophe>
                      > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Interpre. ..
                      > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Interpretation_ of_quantum_ mechanics>
                      >
                      > Schrodinger and Dirac Equations:
                      > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schr%C3%. ..
                      > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schr%C3%B6dinger _equation>
                      > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dirac_eq. ..
                      > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dirac_equation>
                      >
                      > Bose-Einstein Condensate:
                      > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Bose%E2%. ..
                      > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Bose%E2%80% 93Einstein_ condensate>
                      >
                      > Harvard Bose Condensates stop and restart light:
                      > http://www.news. harvard.edu/ gazette/2. ..
                      > <http://www.news. harvard.edu/ gazette/2001/ 01.24/01- stoplight. html>
                      >
                      > Frank Znidarsic:
                      > "I was part of the NASA team and am in your pictures to prove it. We
                      > attempted the experiment twice. In both attempts, we made several
                      > large SC disks, but never developed the rotation apparatus to test
                      > them." "
                      >
                      > -DonEMitchell posted 2010.07.13
                      >
                      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
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                    • George Pantos
                      http://www.youtube.com/user/AlienScientist#p/u/15/1-ruFNzr7kk interview with Frank.. ... From: lady hawk To:
                      Message 10 of 16 , Jul 15 6:04 PM
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                        http://www.youtube.com/user/AlienScientist#p/u/15/1-ruFNzr7kk interview
                        with Frank..


                        ----- Original Message -----
                        From: "lady hawk" <tarabead@...>
                        To: <hameltech@yahoogroups.com>
                        Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:24 PM
                        Subject: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic


                        > This just came in from one of he Ormus Groups I subscribe to .
                        > maybe some of you might find this interesting & useful.
                        > T
                        > (no editing done on this page)
                        > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                        > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
                        > Subject: Fw: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                        >
                        > ----- Forwarded Message ----
                        > From: DonEMitchell <mitch@...>
                        > To: DonEMitchell@...
                        > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 7:36:41 PM
                        > Subject: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                        >
                        >
                        > KMTech, et al,
                        > *
                        > Errata*
                        > This is a repost of the same article with the names corrected.
                        >
                        > Frank Znidarsic is the scientist with a breakthrough assembly of
                        > classical physics against modern data from Bose-Einstein condensates and
                        > nucleo-sonic (nuclear phonon) 'time-dilation', ergo, light-speed
                        > reduction, of the transition of an orbital electron to a different
                        > electronic shell of an atom.
                        >
                        > When the measured electron wave transition found far (far) below
                        > light-speed is considered against classical physics, Plank's constant is
                        > explained to be the refractive index of a photon going from near
                        > light-speed orbital velocity while bound in an electron shell, to the
                        > velocity that a sonic wave travels on the positive wave-function of the
                        > nucleus, the Coulomb field.
                        >
                        > The marvelous fit with modern alchemical sonic transmutation (E.G., of
                        > salt to precious metals) and cold-fusion experiments, is the
                        > experimental finding that the matter wave of a solid atomic lattice can
                        > have the thermal energy polarized by an excited standing wave, such that
                        > the whole of the matter lattice resonates as a whole with the
                        > thermo-acoustic coherence to the exciting wave.
                        >
                        > While working with NASA attempting to duplicate the findings of Dr. Li,
                        > Znidarsic's team found an harmonic constant that caused matter lattice
                        > to behave as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC).
                        >
                        > This enables mathematical models using the transition event path of an
                        > electron described as less than light speed, and harmonic at the same
                        > frequency that the nucleus is phononically harmonic with electronic
                        > pressures. The coincidental frequencies are modeled by classical physics
                        >
                        > The harmonic frequency of the aether is found experimentally to be 1.094
                        > million cycles per second-meter [e.g., a 1/3 meter disk is harmonic at 3
                        > times 1.094 megaHertz]. This in effect is creation of a spin-gradient
                        > across a macro-BEC that describes the standing wave.
                        >
                        > I'm sorry time and lack of illustration prevents a better projection to
                        > your mind of the importance this theory holds as a new adhesive for
                        > bright minds to ponder the applied science entailed by the ability to
                        > morph a BEC sphere into a Golden Egg, for one [causing inertial
                        > displacement of the unit due to asymmetry of the time-retardation well
                        > near center of the spin axis].
                        >
                        > The following excerpt is from the post by 'AlienScientist' at youtube.com.
                        >
                        > DonEMitchell
                        > http://groupKOS.com
                        > http://portal.groupKOS.com/index.php?title=Control of the Natural Forces
                        > ----------------------------------------------------------
                        >
                        > *Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                        > *
                        >
                        > This is a most excellent video for anyone to ponder that is curious
                        > about the widespread claims that quantum physics is bogus and desperate.
                        >
                        > Frank Znidarsic worked on the NASA team that tested Dr. Podkletnov's
                        > gravity anomaly with spinning superconductors.
                        >
                        > This video is just out today (Tuesday, July 13, 2010). A Must see!
                        >
                        > *Source: *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr_s28wIOzQ *posted by
                        > 'AlienScientist' (youtube.com)*
                        >
                        > "Richard Feynman once said "It doesn't matter how smart you are, or
                        > how brilliant your theory is. If it doesn't agree with experiment,
                        > it's WRONG!" If you happen to go by a Barnes and Noble's this month,
                        > stop in and pick up a copy of the July Issue of Infinite Energy
                        > Magazine and look for Frank Znidarsic's Article on the Duality of
                        > Matter and Waves.
                        >
                        > I'd really like to see if this theory is wrong, but I don't think it
                        > is. At least until someone can show me how and why it fails. So far
                        > it's only given right answers. You get the Compton wave of the
                        > electron, the radii and intensities of spectral emissions, and it
                        > explains why everything looked so confusing through the only lenses
                        > which 1930s science permitted.
                        >
                        > The mathematical achievements of the past century are astounding in
                        > retrospect to such a simplified theory of quantum mechanics. Yet the
                        > math gives us real answers, and tells us these abstract
                        > hyperdimensional modelings was just the speed of light refracting
                        > into the electron shell which behaves like a Bose Condensate. The
                        > first Bose Condensate wasn't created until 2003, the great
                        > scientists never performed experiments with large diameter rotating
                        > superconductors, so how could they possibly have known or seen this???"
                        >
                        > "The Original Paper:
                        > http://www.scribd.com/doc/25455268/Co...
                        > <http://www.scribd.com/doc/25455268/Control-of-the-Natural-Forces>
                        >
                        > A-reconciliation-of-Quantum-Mechanics-an
                        >
                        > d-Special-Relativity: http://www.scribd.com/doc/33043355/A-...
                        > <http://www.scribd.com/doc/33043355/A-reconciliation-of-Quantum-Mechanics-and-Special-Relativity>
                        >
                        >
                        > Background and additional info:
                        > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultravio...
                        > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_catastrophe>
                        > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpre...
                        > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpretation_of_quantum_mechanics>
                        >
                        > Schrodinger and Dirac Equations:
                        > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%...
                        > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger_equation>
                        > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_eq...
                        > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_equation>
                        >
                        > Bose-Einstein Condensate:
                        > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose%E2%...
                        > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose%E2%80%93Einstein_condensate>
                        >
                        > Harvard Bose Condensates stop and restart light:
                        > http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2...
                        > <http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2001/01.24/01-stoplight.html>
                        >
                        > Frank Znidarsic:
                        > "I was part of the NASA team and am in your pictures to prove it. We
                        > attempted the experiment twice. In both attempts, we made several
                        > large SC disks, but never developed the rotation apparatus to test
                        > them." "
                        >
                        > -DonEMitchell posted 2010.07.13
                        >
                        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
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                      • George Pantos
                        it s a shame.. because i don t want technology to progress.. i ve seen a lot of stupid people become stupider with more technology.. ... From: George Pantos
                        Message 11 of 16 , Jul 15 6:13 PM
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                          it's a shame.. because i don't want technology to progress.. i've seen a lot
                          of stupid people become stupider with more technology..


                          ----- Original Message -----
                          From: "George Pantos" <gop6@...>
                          To: <hameltech@yahoogroups.com>
                          Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:04 PM
                          Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic


                          > http://www.youtube.com/user/AlienScientist#p/u/15/1-ruFNzr7kk interview
                          > with Frank..
                          >
                          >
                          > ----- Original Message -----
                          > From: "lady hawk" <tarabead@...>
                          > To: <hameltech@yahoogroups.com>
                          > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:24 PM
                          > Subject: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                          >
                          >
                          >> This just came in from one of he Ormus Groups I subscribe to .
                          >> maybe some of you might find this interesting & useful.
                          >> T
                          >> (no editing done on this page)
                          >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                          >> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
                          >> Subject: Fw: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                          >>
                          >> ----- Forwarded Message ----
                          >> From: DonEMitchell <mitch@...>
                          >> To: DonEMitchell@...
                          >> Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 7:36:41 PM
                          >> Subject: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                          >>
                          >>
                          >> KMTech, et al,
                          >> *
                          >> Errata*
                          >> This is a repost of the same article with the names corrected.
                          >>
                          >> Frank Znidarsic is the scientist with a breakthrough assembly of
                          >> classical physics against modern data from Bose-Einstein condensates and
                          >> nucleo-sonic (nuclear phonon) 'time-dilation', ergo, light-speed
                          >> reduction, of the transition of an orbital electron to a different
                          >> electronic shell of an atom.
                          >>
                          >> When the measured electron wave transition found far (far) below
                          >> light-speed is considered against classical physics, Plank's constant is
                          >> explained to be the refractive index of a photon going from near
                          >> light-speed orbital velocity while bound in an electron shell, to the
                          >> velocity that a sonic wave travels on the positive wave-function of the
                          >> nucleus, the Coulomb field.
                          >>
                          >> The marvelous fit with modern alchemical sonic transmutation (E.G., of
                          >> salt to precious metals) and cold-fusion experiments, is the
                          >> experimental finding that the matter wave of a solid atomic lattice can
                          >> have the thermal energy polarized by an excited standing wave, such that
                          >> the whole of the matter lattice resonates as a whole with the
                          >> thermo-acoustic coherence to the exciting wave.
                          >>
                          >> While working with NASA attempting to duplicate the findings of Dr. Li,
                          >> Znidarsic's team found an harmonic constant that caused matter lattice
                          >> to behave as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC).
                          >>
                          >> This enables mathematical models using the transition event path of an
                          >> electron described as less than light speed, and harmonic at the same
                          >> frequency that the nucleus is phononically harmonic with electronic
                          >> pressures. The coincidental frequencies are modeled by classical physics
                          >>
                          >> The harmonic frequency of the aether is found experimentally to be 1.094
                          >> million cycles per second-meter [e.g., a 1/3 meter disk is harmonic at 3
                          >> times 1.094 megaHertz]. This in effect is creation of a spin-gradient
                          >> across a macro-BEC that describes the standing wave.
                          >>
                          >> I'm sorry time and lack of illustration prevents a better projection to
                          >> your mind of the importance this theory holds as a new adhesive for
                          >> bright minds to ponder the applied science entailed by the ability to
                          >> morph a BEC sphere into a Golden Egg, for one [causing inertial
                          >> displacement of the unit due to asymmetry of the time-retardation well
                          >> near center of the spin axis].
                          >>
                          >> The following excerpt is from the post by 'AlienScientist' at
                          >> youtube.com.
                          >>
                          >> DonEMitchell
                          >> http://groupKOS.com
                          >> http://portal.groupKOS.com/index.php?title=Control of the Natural Forces
                          >> ----------------------------------------------------------
                          >>
                          >> *Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                          >> *
                          >>
                          >> This is a most excellent video for anyone to ponder that is curious
                          >> about the widespread claims that quantum physics is bogus and desperate.
                          >>
                          >> Frank Znidarsic worked on the NASA team that tested Dr. Podkletnov's
                          >> gravity anomaly with spinning superconductors.
                          >>
                          >> This video is just out today (Tuesday, July 13, 2010). A Must see!
                          >>
                          >> *Source: *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr_s28wIOzQ *posted by
                          >> 'AlienScientist' (youtube.com)*
                          >>
                          >> "Richard Feynman once said "It doesn't matter how smart you are, or
                          >> how brilliant your theory is. If it doesn't agree with experiment,
                          >> it's WRONG!" If you happen to go by a Barnes and Noble's this month,
                          >> stop in and pick up a copy of the July Issue of Infinite Energy
                          >> Magazine and look for Frank Znidarsic's Article on the Duality of
                          >> Matter and Waves.
                          >>
                          >> I'd really like to see if this theory is wrong, but I don't think it
                          >> is. At least until someone can show me how and why it fails. So far
                          >> it's only given right answers. You get the Compton wave of the
                          >> electron, the radii and intensities of spectral emissions, and it
                          >> explains why everything looked so confusing through the only lenses
                          >> which 1930s science permitted.
                          >>
                          >> The mathematical achievements of the past century are astounding in
                          >> retrospect to such a simplified theory of quantum mechanics. Yet the
                          >> math gives us real answers, and tells us these abstract
                          >> hyperdimensional modelings was just the speed of light refracting
                          >> into the electron shell which behaves like a Bose Condensate. The
                          >> first Bose Condensate wasn't created until 2003, the great
                          >> scientists never performed experiments with large diameter rotating
                          >> superconductors, so how could they possibly have known or seen this???"
                          >>
                          >> "The Original Paper:
                          >> http://www.scribd.com/doc/25455268/Co...
                          >> <http://www.scribd.com/doc/25455268/Control-of-the-Natural-Forces>
                          >>
                          >> A-reconciliation-of-Quantum-Mechanics-an
                          >>
                          >> d-Special-Relativity: http://www.scribd.com/doc/33043355/A-...
                          >> <http://www.scribd.com/doc/33043355/A-reconciliation-of-Quantum-Mechanics-and-Special-Relativity>
                          >>
                          >>
                          >> Background and additional info:
                          >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultravio...
                          >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_catastrophe>
                          >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpre...
                          >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpretation_of_quantum_mechanics>
                          >>
                          >> Schrodinger and Dirac Equations:
                          >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%...
                          >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger_equation>
                          >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_eq...
                          >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_equation>
                          >>
                          >> Bose-Einstein Condensate:
                          >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose%E2%...
                          >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose%E2%80%93Einstein_condensate>
                          >>
                          >> Harvard Bose Condensates stop and restart light:
                          >> http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2...
                          >> <http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2001/01.24/01-stoplight.html>
                          >>
                          >> Frank Znidarsic:
                          >> "I was part of the NASA team and am in your pictures to prove it. We
                          >> attempted the experiment twice. In both attempts, we made several
                          >> large SC disks, but never developed the rotation apparatus to test
                          >> them." "
                          >>
                          >> -DonEMitchell posted 2010.07.13
                          >>
                          >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                          >>
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                        • joesmith@cvctx.com
                          Hi Guys,Is there anyone here playing around with ActiGel 208??,,,,preferebly in/with carbon,, Joe in Texas On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:39:38 +0100, Mike wrote: Hi
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                            Hi Guys,Is there anyone here playing around with ActiGel 208??,,,,preferebly in/with carbon,,
                            Joe in Texas


                            On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:39:38 +0100, Mike wrote:
                             
                             
                            Hi Tim,
                                       ZAMAK is one of the most widely used materials in automotive low stress devices, because it has a very low melting point & is so easy to melt and injection mould, very malleable. The casting (or moulding) in the end of the windscreen wiper motor is the most common visible use, and many other instances; nothing fancy at all!
                            I think you need to regauge your opinion!
                            I don’t often post, but always will to prevent a simple alloy becoming a ‘mysterious super strength secret material.’(We in the trade call it S*** metal, so easy to bend or break flanges; but of course ideal for the use intended!
                            Earlier mixes, like Zinc itself tend to corrode rapidly if exposed to dampness and a ‘less noble’ metal in proximity; later mixes have another trace element added to alleviate this somewhat. I suspect that your Zinc Carbon battery may have its case made of this!
                             
                            Mike.
                             
                            Mike. j. Furness
                             

                            From: hameltech@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hameltech@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TIm Wisener
                            Sent: 15 July 2010 22:36
                            To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com
                            Subject: [SPAM] Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                             
                             
                            Off topic here but since this group is got ppl from all over I was curious, after reading about crash sights and alloys snuck from the sight, has anyone ever heard or know of anyone that produces. Zalnac, think thats how its spelled. 78% zinc 22% aluminum. has the strength of steel, light as aluminum and its super flexible. I found it month or so back checking on different mixtures of metals, It was trademarked late 70's or so but the trail ends there. another note. I'm American born and raised, love this country, but It kills me to see what we are letting or turning into. When it comes to ppl like Mr. Hamel, J L Naudin labs, and others world wide. much love and respect.This is the kind of ppl we should have as leaders, they arent in just for themselves, we owe em thx
                             

                          • TIm Wisener
                            ________________________________ From: joesmith@cvctx.com To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 9:02:21 PM Subject: RE:
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                              From: "joesmith@..." <joesmith@...>
                              To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com
                              Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 9:02:21 PM
                              Subject: RE: [SPAM] Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                              Hi Guys,Is there anyone here playing around with ActiGel 208??,,,,preferebly in/with carbon,,
                              Joe in Texas


                              On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:39:38 +0100, Mike wrote:
                               
                              regauge my opinion of what? I believe the name of what im mentioning is Prestal. I simply stated what ive read, you dont like take a long walk of a short plank. this here was copied and pasted " Prestal®, an alloy containing 78% zinc and 22% aluminum, is a strange material that is nearly as strong as steel but is molded as easily as plastic. ...

                              Hi Tim,
                                         ZAMAK is one of the most widely used materials in automotive low stress devices, because it has a very low melting point & is so easy to melt and injection mould, very malleable. The casting (or moulding) in the end of the windscreen wiper motor is the most common visible use, and many other instances; nothing fancy at all!
                              I think you need to regauge your opinion!
                              I don’t often post, but always will to prevent a simple alloy becoming a ‘mysterious super strength secret material.’(We in the trade call it S*** metal, so easy to bend or break flanges; but of course ideal for the use intended!
                              Earlier mixes, like Zinc itself tend to corrode rapidly if exposed to dampness and a ‘less noble’ metal in proximity; later mixes have another trace element added to alleviate this somewhat. I suspect that your Zinc Carbon battery may have its case made of this!
                               
                              Mike.
                               
                              Mike. j. Furness
                               

                              From: hameltech@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hameltech@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TIm Wisener
                              Sent: 15 July 2010 22:36
                              To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com
                              Subject: [SPAM] Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                               
                               
                              Off topic here but since this group is got ppl from all over I was curious, after reading about crash sights and alloys snuck from the sight, has anyone ever heard or know of anyone that produces. Zalnac, think thats how its spelled. 78% zinc 22% aluminum. has the strength of steel, light as aluminum and its super flexible. I found it month or so back checking on different mixtures of metals, It was trademarked late 70's or so but the trail ends there. another note. I'm American born and raised, love this country, but It kills me to see what we are letting or turning into. When it comes to ppl like Mr. Hamel, J L Naudin labs, and others world wide. much love and respect.This is the kind of ppl we should have as leaders, they arent in just for themselves, we owe em thx
                               


                            • TIm Wisener
                              regauge my opinion of what? I believe the name of what im mentioning is Prestal. I simply stated what ive read, you dont like take a long walk of a short
                              Message 14 of 16 , Jul 16 7:21 AM
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                                regauge my opinion of what? I believe the name of what im mentioning is Prestal. I simply stated what ive read, you dont like take a long walk of a short plank. this here was copied and pasted " Prestal®, an alloy containing 78% zinc and 22% aluminum, is a strange material that is nearly as strong as steel but is molded as easily as plastic


                                From: Mike <mikefurness2002@...>
                                To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com
                                Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 6:39:38 PM
                                Subject: RE: [SPAM] Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                 

                                Hi Tim,

                                           ZAMAK is one of the most widely used materials in automotive low stress devices, because it has a very low melting point & is so easy to melt and injection mould, very malleable. The casting (or moulding) in the end of the windscreen wiper motor is the most common visible use, and many other instances; nothing fancy at all!

                                I think you need to regauge your opinion!

                                I don’t often post, but always will to prevent a simple alloy becoming a ‘mysterious super strength secret material.’(We in the trade call it S*** metal, so easy to bend or break flanges; but of course ideal for the use intended!

                                Earlier mixes, like Zinc itself tend to corrode rapidly if exposed to dampness and a ‘less noble’ metal in proximity; later mixes have another trace element added to alleviate this somewhat. I suspect that your Zinc Carbon battery may have its case made of this!

                                 

                                Mike.

                                 

                                Mike. j. Furness

                                 


                                From: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com ] On Behalf Of TIm Wisener
                                Sent: 15 July 2010 22:36
                                To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
                                Subject: [SPAM] Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                 

                                 

                                Off topic here but since this group is got ppl from all over I was curious, after reading about crash sights and alloys snuck from the sight, has anyone ever heard or know of anyone that produces. Zalnac, think thats how its spelled. 78% zinc 22% aluminum. has the strength of steel, light as aluminum and its super flexible. I found it month or so back checking on different mixtures of metals, It was trademarked late 70's or so but the trail ends there. another note. I'm American born and raised, love this country, but It kills me to see what we are letting or turning into. When it comes to ppl like Mr. Hamel, J L Naudin labs, and others world wide. much love and respect.This is the kind of ppl we should have as leaders, they arent in just for themselves, we owe em thx

                                 


                                From: George Pantos <gop6@comcast. net>
                                To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
                                Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 4:21:53 PM
                                Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                 

                                darth vader types.. that's who the govt. has allied themselves with..

                                 

                                ----- Original Message -----

                                Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:18 PM

                                Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                 

                                 

                                problem is it is probably manipulated by the greys.. stay away from them..

                                 

                                 

                                ----- Original Message -----

                                Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:12 PM

                                Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                 

                                 

                                Check this out http://www.detailsh ere.com/tunnels. htm You dont think the U.S. government has all the technology they need?Along with Russia . Do think the oil spill and Hurricane Ivan was accidents? they are planning and inducing an economical collapse, most of the citizens sit around with their eyes and ears closed, knowing the whole time whats going on, its called denial. Just a book, but the tunnels and all are real, just how much of the rest is true, who knows. Maybe it is time for a NWO, just not theirs.Another note one way out of debt fast and thats a world war, tensions are building everyone feels it. So blackmail away

                                 


                                From: George Pantos <gop6@comcast. net>
                                To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
                                Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 3:13:08 PM
                                Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                wow good stuff..  i have some very simplistic additions of my own, thru and
                                understanding of hameltech. but i am blackmailing this country thru
                                silence.. because i've had it with Isreali-U.S. policy and am waiting for
                                the entire economy to go under within 10 years.. no reason these people
                                should have anything.. especially something that might save their weak
                                skins.. i'm going to sit and watch them drown..




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                                To: <hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com>
                                Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:24 PM
                                Subject: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic


                                > This just came in from one of he Ormus Groups I subscribe to .
                                > maybe some of you might find this interesting & useful.
                                > T
                                > (no editing done on this page)
                                > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~
                                > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
                                > Subject: Fw: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                                >
                                > ----- Forwarded Message ----
                                > From: DonEMitchell <mitch@groupKOS. com>
                                > To: DonEMitchell@ groupKOS. com
                                > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 7:36:41 PM
                                > Subject: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                                >
                                >
                                > KMTech, et al,
                                > *
                                > Errata*
                                > This is a repost of the same article with the names corrected.
                                >
                                > Frank Znidarsic is the scientist with a breakthrough assembly of
                                > classical physics against modern data from Bose-Einstein condensates and
                                > nucleo-sonic (nuclear phonon) 'time-dilation' , ergo, light-speed
                                > reduction, of the transition of an orbital electron to a different
                                > electronic shell of an atom.
                                >
                                > When the measured electron wave transition found far (far) below
                                > light-speed is considered against classical physics, Plank's constant is
                                > explained to be the refractive index of a photon going from near
                                > light-speed orbital velocity while bound in an electron shell, to the
                                > velocity that a sonic wave travels on the positive wave-function of the
                                > nucleus, the Coulomb field.
                                >
                                > The marvelous fit with modern alchemical sonic transmutation (E.G., of
                                > salt to precious metals) and cold-fusion experiments, is the
                                > experimental finding that the matter wave of a solid atomic lattice can
                                > have the thermal energy polarized by an excited standing wave, such that
                                > the whole of the matter lattice resonates as a whole with the
                                > thermo-acoustic coherence to the exciting wave.
                                >
                                > While working with NASA attempting to duplicate the findings of Dr. Li,
                                > Znidarsic's team found an harmonic constant that caused matter lattice
                                > to behave as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC).
                                >
                                > This enables mathematical models using the transition event path of an
                                > electron described as less than light speed, and harmonic at the same
                                > frequency that the nucleus is phononically harmonic with electronic
                                > pressures.  The coincidental frequencies are modeled by classical physics
                                >
                                > The harmonic frequency of the aether is found experimentally to be 1.094
                                > million cycles per second-meter [e.g., a 1/3 meter disk is harmonic at 3
                                > times 1.094 megaHertz].  This in effect is creation of a spin-gradient
                                > across a macro-BEC that describes the standing wave.
                                >
                                > I'm sorry time and lack of illustration prevents a better projection to
                                > your mind of the importance this theory holds as a new adhesive for
                                > bright minds to ponder the applied science entailed by the ability to
                                > morph a BEC sphere into a Golden Egg, for one [causing inertial
                                > displacement of the unit due to asymmetry of the time-retardation well
                                > near center of the spin axis].
                                >
                                > The following excerpt is from the post by 'AlienScientist' at youtube.com.
                                >
                                > DonEMitchell
                                > http://groupKOS. com
                                > http://portal. groupKOS. com/index. php?title= Control of the Natural Forces
                                > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
                                >
                                > *Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                                > *
                                >
                                > This is a most excellent video for anyone to ponder that is curious
                                > about the widespread claims that quantum physics is bogus and desperate.
                                >
                                > Frank Znidarsic worked on the NASA team that tested Dr. Podkletnov's
                                > gravity anomaly with spinning superconductors.
                                >
                                > This video is just out today (Tuesday, July 13, 2010).  A Must see!
                                >
                                > *Source: *http://www. youtube.com/ watch?v=Rr_ s28wIOzQ *posted by
                                > 'AlienScientist' (youtube.com) *
                                >
                                > "Richard Feynman once said "It doesn't matter how smart you are, or
                                > how brilliant your theory is. If it doesn't agree with experiment,
                                > it's WRONG!" If you happen to go by a Barnes and Noble's this month,
                                > stop in and pick up a copy of the July Issue of Infinite Energy
                                > Magazine and look for Frank Znidarsic's Article on the Duality of
                                > Matter and Waves.
                                >
                                > I'd really like to see if this theory is wrong, but I don't think it
                                > is. At least until someone can show me how and why it fails. So far
                                > it's only given right answers. You get the Compton wave of the
                                > electron, the radii and intensities of spectral emissions, and it
                                > explains why everything looked so confusing through the only lenses
                                > which 1930s science permitted.
                                >
                                > The mathematical achievements of the past century are astounding in
                                > retrospect to such a simplified theory of quantum mechanics. Yet the
                                > math gives us real answers, and tells us these abstract
                                > hyperdimensional modelings was just the speed of light refracting
                                > into the electron shell which behaves like a Bose Condensate. The
                                > first Bose Condensate wasn't created until 2003, the great
                                > scientists never performed experiments with large diameter rotating
                                > superconductors, so how could they possibly have known or seen this???"
                                >
                                > "The Original Paper:
                                > http://www.scribd. com/doc/25455268 /Co...
                                > <http://www.scribd. com/doc/25455268 /Control- of-the-Natural- Forces>
                                >
                                > A-reconciliation- of-Quantum- Mechanics- an
                                >
                                > d-Special-Relativit y: http://www.scribd. com/doc/33043355 /A-...
                                > <http://www.scribd. com/doc/33043355 /A-reconciliatio n-of-Quantum- Mechanics- and-Special- Relativity>
                                >
                                >
                                > Background and additional info:
                                > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ultravio. ..
                                > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ultraviolet_ catastrophe>
                                > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Interpre. ..
                                > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Interpretation_ of_quantum_ mechanics>
                                >
                                > Schrodinger and Dirac Equations:
                                > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schr%C3%. ..
                                > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schr%C3%B6dinger _equation>
                                > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dirac_eq. ..
                                > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dirac_equation>
                                >
                                > Bose-Einstein Condensate:
                                > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Bose%E2%. ..
                                > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Bose%E2%80% 93Einstein_ condensate>
                                >
                                > Harvard Bose Condensates stop and restart light:
                                > http://www.news. harvard.edu/ gazette/2. ..
                                > <http://www.news. harvard.edu/ gazette/2001/ 01.24/01- stoplight. html>
                                >
                                > Frank Znidarsic:
                                > "I was part of the NASA team and am in your pictures to prove it. We
                                > attempted the experiment twice. In both attempts, we made several
                                > large SC disks, but never developed the rotation apparatus to test
                                > them." "
                                >
                                > -DonEMitchell posted 2010.07.13
                                >
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                              • Mike
                                Tim, Why so much pain when someone tells you something? First Zamak (you were unsure) and now you poisonously present a new name! If you re a metallurgist,
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                                  Tim,

                                       Why so much pain when someone tells you something? First Zamak (you were unsure) and now you poisonously present a new name! If you’re a metallurgist, then let’s have a serious discussion!  ALL the things I said previously are correct!!  Let’s not forget that 1. ALL of similar ratios behave in a similar manner, and malleable at around 100 degrees, or less, (Steel????)  FYI, that means SOFT!!  Under certain shear conditions do have a considerable strength, but NOT as you will encounter; at the risk if repeating myself, all is exactly as I have previously said! In the link, just look to the right hand column which shows 27% Aluminium

                                   

                                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_aluminium.  And here’s how it’s molded in a low temperature injection molding machine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8MUjb-HeJw. You’ve only to see in the video how easily the sprues break off in a simple tumble drum to gain a little more understanding!

                                   

                                  FYI, ZAMAK is an acronym for Zinc Aluminium Alloy; NOTHING ELSE!

                                   

                                  Quite simply, If you post something, and get a REAL answer, of material and usage, from someone who has practical knowledge in this field, don’t go beserk afterwards.

                                  Up to now, this group has remained clean of malicious argument; please assist in keeping it so.

                                   

                                  If you don’t want to know anything, don’t post, and if you do, don’t shoot the messenger!

                                   

                                  Mike.

                                   

                                  Mike. J. Furness,

                                   


                                  From: hameltech@yahoogroups.com [mailto: hameltech@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of TIm Wisener
                                  Sent: 16 July 2010 15:22
                                  To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                   

                                   

                                  regauge my opinion of what? I believe the name of what im mentioning is Prestal. I simply stated what ive read, you dont like take a long walk of a short plank. this here was copied and pasted " Prestal®, an alloy containing 78% zinc and 22% aluminum, is a strange material that is nearly as strong as steel but is molded as easily as plastic

                                   


                                  From: Mike <mikefurness2002@ yahoo.co. uk>
                                  To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
                                  Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 6:39:38 PM
                                  Subject: RE: [SPAM] Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                   

                                  Hi Tim,

                                             ZAMAK is one of the most widely used materials in automotive low stress devices, because it has a very low melting point & is so easy to melt and injection mould, very malleable. The casting (or moulding) in the end of the windscreen wiper motor is the most common visible use, and many other instances; nothing fancy at all!

                                  I think you need to regauge your opinion!

                                  I don’t often post, but always will to prevent a simple alloy becoming a ‘mysterious super strength secret material.’(We in the trade call it S*** metal, so easy to bend or break flanges; but of course ideal for the use intended!

                                  Earlier mixes, like Zinc itself tend to corrode rapidly if exposed to dampness and a ‘less noble’ metal in proximity; later mixes have another trace element added to alleviate this somewhat. I suspect that your Zinc Carbon battery may have its case made of this!

                                   

                                  Mike.

                                   

                                  Mike. j. Furness

                                   


                                  From: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com ] On Behalf Of TIm Wisener
                                  Sent: 15 July 2010 22:36
                                  To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
                                  Subject: [SPAM] Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                   

                                   

                                  Off topic here but since this group is got ppl from all over I was curious, after reading about crash sights and alloys snuck from the sight, has anyone ever heard or know of anyone that produces. Zalnac, think thats how its spelled. 78% zinc 22% aluminum. has the strength of steel, light as aluminum and its super flexible. I found it month or so back checking on different mixtures of metals, It was trademarked late 70's or so but the trail ends there. another note. I'm American born and raised, love this country, but It kills me to see what we are letting or turning into. When it comes to ppl like Mr. Hamel, J L Naudin labs, and others world wide. much love and respect.This is the kind of ppl we should have as leaders, they arent in just for themselves, we owe em thx

                                   


                                  From: George Pantos <gop6@comcast. net>
                                  To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
                                  Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 4:21:53 PM
                                  Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                   

                                  darth vader types.. that's who the govt. has allied themselves with..

                                   

                                  ----- Original Message -----

                                  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:18 PM

                                  Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                   

                                   

                                  problem is it is probably manipulated by the greys.. stay away from them..

                                   

                                   

                                  ----- Original Message -----

                                  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:12 PM

                                  Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                   

                                   

                                  Check this out http://www.detailsh ere.com/tunnels. htm You dont think the U.S. government has all the technology they need?Along with Russia . Do think the oil spill and Hurricane Ivan was accidents? they are planning and inducing an economical collapse, most of the citizens sit around with their eyes and ears closed, knowing the whole time whats going on, its called denial. Just a book, but the tunnels and all are real, just how much of the rest is true, who knows. Maybe it is time for a NWO, just not theirs.Another note one way out of debt fast and thats a world war, tensions are building everyone feels it. So blackmail away

                                   


                                  From: George Pantos <gop6@comcast. net>
                                  To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
                                  Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 3:13:08 PM
                                  Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                  wow good stuff..  i have some very simplistic additions of my own, thru and
                                  understanding of hameltech. but i am blackmailing this country thru
                                  silence.. because i've had it with Isreali-U.S. policy and am waiting for
                                  the entire economy to go under within 10 years.. no reason these people
                                  should have anything.. especially something that might save their weak
                                  skins.. i'm going to sit and watch them drown..




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                                  From: "lady hawk" <tarabead@gmail. com>
                                  To: <hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com>
                                  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:24 PM
                                  Subject: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic


                                  > This just came in from one of he Ormus Groups I subscribe to .
                                  > maybe some of you might find this interesting & useful.
                                  > T
                                  > (no editing done on this page)
                                  > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~
                                  > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
                                  > Subject: Fw: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                                  >
                                  > ----- Forwarded Message ----
                                  > From: DonEMitchell <mitch@groupKOS. com>
                                  > To: DonEMitchell@ groupKOS. com
                                  > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 7:36:41 PM
                                  > Subject: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > KMTech, et al,
                                  > *
                                  > Errata*
                                  > This is a repost of the same article with the names corrected.
                                  >
                                  > Frank Znidarsic is the scientist with a breakthrough assembly of
                                  > classical physics against modern data from Bose-Einstein condensates and
                                  > nucleo-sonic (nuclear phonon) 'time-dilation' , ergo, light-speed
                                  > reduction, of the transition of an orbital electron to a different
                                  > electronic shell of an atom.
                                  >
                                  > When the measured electron wave transition found far (far) below
                                  > light-speed is considered against classical physics, Plank's constant is
                                  > explained to be the refractive index of a photon going from near
                                  > light-speed orbital velocity while bound in an electron shell, to the
                                  > velocity that a sonic wave travels on the positive wave-function of the
                                  > nucleus, the Coulomb field.
                                  >
                                  > The marvelous fit with modern alchemical sonic transmutation (E.G., of
                                  > salt to precious metals) and cold-fusion experiments, is the
                                  > experimental finding that the matter wave of a solid atomic lattice can
                                  > have the thermal energy polarized by an excited standing wave, such that
                                  > the whole of the matter lattice resonates as a whole with the
                                  > thermo-acoustic coherence to the exciting wave.
                                  >
                                  > While working with NASA attempting to duplicate the findings of Dr. Li,
                                  > Znidarsic's team found an harmonic constant that caused matter lattice
                                  > to behave as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC).
                                  >
                                  > This enables mathematical models using the transition event path of an
                                  > electron described as less than light speed, and harmonic at the same
                                  > frequency that the nucleus is phononically harmonic with electronic
                                  > pressures.  The coincidental frequencies are modeled by classical physics
                                  >
                                  > The harmonic frequency of the aether is found experimentally to be 1.094
                                  > million cycles per second-meter [e.g., a 1/3 meter disk is harmonic at 3
                                  > times 1.094 megaHertz].  This in effect is creation of a spin-gradient
                                  > across a macro-BEC that describes the standing wave.
                                  >
                                  > I'm sorry time and lack of illustration prevents a better projection to
                                  > your mind of the importance this theory holds as a new adhesive for
                                  > bright minds to ponder the applied science entailed by the ability to
                                  > morph a BEC sphere into a Golden Egg, for one [causing inertial
                                  > displacement of the unit due to asymmetry of the time-retardation well
                                  > near center of the spin axis].
                                  >
                                  > The following excerpt is from the post by 'AlienScientist' at youtube.com.
                                  >
                                  > DonEMitchell
                                  > http://groupKOS. com
                                  > http://portal. groupKOS. com/index. php?title= Control of the Natural Forces
                                  > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
                                  >
                                  > *Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                                  > *
                                  >
                                  > This is a most excellent video for anyone to ponder that is curious
                                  > about the widespread claims that quantum physics is bogus and desperate.
                                  >
                                  > Frank Znidarsic worked on the NASA team that tested Dr. Podkletnov's
                                  > gravity anomaly with spinning superconductors.
                                  >
                                  > This video is just out today (Tuesday, July 13, 2010).  A Must see!
                                  >
                                  > *Source: *http://www. youtube.com/ watch?v=Rr_ s28wIOzQ *posted by
                                  > 'AlienScientist' (youtube.com) *
                                  >
                                  > "Richard Feynman once said "It doesn't matter how smart you are, or
                                  > how brilliant your theory is. If it doesn't agree with experiment,
                                  > it's WRONG!" If you happen to go by a Barnes and Noble's this month,
                                  > stop in and pick up a copy of the July Issue of Infinite Energy
                                  > Magazine and look for Frank Znidarsic's Article on the Duality of
                                  > Matter and Waves.
                                  >
                                  > I'd really like to see if this theory is wrong, but I don't think it
                                  > is. At least until someone can show me how and why it fails. So far
                                  > it's only given right answers. You get the Compton wave of the
                                  > electron, the radii and intensities of spectral emissions, and it
                                  > explains why everything looked so confusing through the only lenses
                                  > which 1930s science permitted.
                                  >
                                  > The mathematical achievements of the past century are astounding in
                                  > retrospect to such a simplified theory of quantum mechanics. Yet the
                                  > math gives us real answers, and tells us these abstract
                                  > hyperdimensional modelings was just the speed of light refracting
                                  > into the electron shell which behaves like a Bose Condensate. The
                                  > first Bose Condensate wasn't created until 2003, the great
                                  > scientists never performed experiments with large diameter rotating
                                  > superconductors, so how could they possibly have known or seen this???"
                                  >
                                  > "The Original Paper:
                                  > http://www.scribd. com/doc/25455268 /Co...
                                  > <http://www.scribd. com/doc/25455268 /Control- of-the-Natural- Forces>
                                  >
                                  > A-reconciliation- of-Quantum- Mechanics- an
                                  >
                                  > d-Special-Relativit y: http://www.scribd. com/doc/33043355 /A-...
                                  > <http://www.scribd. com/doc/33043355 /A-reconciliatio n-of-Quantum- Mechanics- and-Special- Relativity>
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > Background and additional info:
                                  > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ultravio. ..
                                  > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ultraviolet_ catastrophe>
                                  > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Interpre. ..
                                  > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Interpretation_ of_quantum_ mechanics>
                                  >
                                  > Schrodinger and Dirac Equations:
                                  > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schr%C3%. ..
                                  > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schr%C3%B6dinger _equation>
                                  > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dirac_eq. ..
                                  > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dirac_equation>
                                  >
                                  > Bose-Einstein Condensate:
                                  > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Bose%E2%. ..
                                  > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Bose%E2%80% 93Einstein_ condensate>
                                  >
                                  > Harvard Bose Condensates stop and restart light:
                                  > http://www.news. harvard.edu/ gazette/2. ..
                                  > <http://www.news. harvard.edu/ gazette/2001/ 01.24/01- stoplight. html>
                                  >
                                  > Frank Znidarsic:
                                  > "I was part of the NASA team and am in your pictures to prove it. We
                                  > attempted the experiment twice. In both attempts, we made several
                                  > large SC disks, but never developed the rotation apparatus to test
                                  > them." "
                                  >
                                  > -DonEMitchell posted 2010.07.13
                                  >
                                  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
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                                • Binny
                                  Around here it is commonly refered to as white metal or pot metal and you will find most are about 4% aluminum and less of magnesiun and copper. Just my 2
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                                    Around here it is commonly refered to as white metal or pot metal and you will find most are about 4% aluminum and less of magnesiun and copper. Just my 2 cents worth.P.S. Don't understand all the amosity tho.
                                    ----- Original Message -----
                                    From: Mike
                                    Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:55 AM
                                    Subject: RE: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                     

                                    Tim,

                                         Why so much pain when someone tells you something? First Zamak (you were unsure) and now you poisonously present a new name! If you’re a metallurgist, then let’s have a serious discussion!  ALL the things I said previously are correct!!  Let’s not forget that 1. ALL of similar ratios behave in a similar manner, and malleable at around 100 degrees, or less, (Steel????)  FYI, that means SOFT!!  Under certain shear conditions do have a considerable strength, but NOT as you will encounter; at the risk if repeating myself, all is exactly as I have previously said! In the link, just look to the right hand column which shows 27% Aluminium

                                    http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Zinc_aluminium.  And here’s how it’s molded in a low temperature injection molding machine. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=h8MUjb- HeJw. You’ve only to see in the video how easily the sprues break off in a simple tumble drum to gain a little more understanding!

                                    FYI, ZAMAK is an acronym for Zinc Aluminium Alloy; NOTHING ELSE!

                                    Quite simply, If you post something, and get a REAL answer, of material and usage, from someone who has practical knowledge in this field, don’t go beserk afterwards.

                                    Up to now, this group has remained clean of malicious argument; please assist in keeping it so.

                                    If you don’t want to know anything, don’t post, and if you do, don’t shoot the messenger!

                                    Mike.

                                    Mike. J. Furness,


                                    From: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com ] On Behalf Of TIm Wisener
                                    Sent: 16 July 2010 15:22
                                    To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
                                    Subject: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                     

                                    regauge my opinion of what? I believe the name of what im mentioning is Prestal. I simply stated what ive read, you dont like take a long walk of a short plank. this here was copied and pasted " Prestal®, an alloy containing 78% zinc and 22% aluminum, is a strange material that is nearly as strong as steel but is molded as easily as plastic


                                    From: Mike <mikefurness2002@ yahoo.co. uk>
                                    To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
                                    Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 6:39:38 PM
                                    Subject: RE: [SPAM] Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                     

                                    Hi Tim,

                                               ZAMAK is one of the most widely used materials in automotive low stress devices, because it has a very low melting point & is so easy to melt and injection mould, very malleable. The casting (or moulding) in the end of the windscreen wiper motor is the most common visible use, and many other instances; nothing fancy at all!

                                    I think you need to regauge your opinion!

                                    I don’t often post, but always will to prevent a simple alloy becoming a ‘mysterious super strength secret material.’(We in the trade call it S*** metal, so easy to bend or break flanges; but of course ideal for the use intended!

                                    Earlier mixes, like Zinc itself tend to corrode rapidly if exposed to dampness and a ‘less noble’ metal in proximity; later mixes have another trace element added to alleviate this somewhat. I suspect that your Zinc Carbon battery may have its case made of this!

                                    Mike.

                                    Mike. j. Furness


                                    From: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com ] On Behalf Of TIm Wisener
                                    Sent: 15 July 2010 22:36
                                    To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
                                    Subject: [SPAM] Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                     

                                    Off topic here but since this group is got ppl from all over I was curious, after reading about crash sights and alloys snuck from the sight, has anyone ever heard or know of anyone that produces. Zalnac, think thats how its spelled. 78% zinc 22% aluminum. has the strength of steel, light as aluminum and its super flexible. I found it month or so back checking on different mixtures of metals, It was trademarked late 70's or so but the trail ends there. another note. I'm American born and raised, love this country, but It kills me to see what we are letting or turning into. When it comes to ppl like Mr. Hamel, J L Naudin labs, and others world wide. much love and respect.This is the kind of ppl we should have as leaders, they arent in just for themselves, we owe em thx


                                    From: George Pantos <gop6@comcast. net>
                                    To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
                                    Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 4:21:53 PM
                                    Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                     

                                    darth vader types.. that's who the govt. has allied themselves with..

                                    ----- Original Message -----

                                    Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:18 PM

                                    Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                     

                                    problem is it is probably manipulated by the greys.. stay away from them..

                                    ----- Original Message -----

                                    Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:12 PM

                                    Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                     

                                    Check this out http://www.detailsh ere.com/tunnels. htm You dont think the U.S. government has all the technology they need?Along with Russia . Do think the oil spill and Hurricane Ivan was accidents? they are planning and inducing an economical collapse, most of the citizens sit around with their eyes and ears closed, knowing the whole time whats going on, its called denial. Just a book, but the tunnels and all are real, just how much of the rest is true, who knows. Maybe it is time for a NWO, just not theirs.Another note one way out of debt fast and thats a world war, tensions are building everyone feels it. So blackmail away


                                    From: George Pantos <gop6@comcast. net>
                                    To: hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com
                                    Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 3:13:08 PM
                                    Subject: Re: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic

                                    wow good stuff..  i have some very simplistic additions of my own, thru and
                                    understanding of hameltech. but i am blackmailing this country thru
                                    silence.. because i've had it with Isreali-U.S. policy and am waiting for
                                    the entire economy to go under within 10 years.. no reason these people
                                    should have anything.. especially something that might save their weak
                                    skins.. i'm going to sit and watch them drown..




                                    ----- Original Message -----
                                    From: "lady hawk" <tarabead@gmail. com>
                                    To: <hameltech@yahoogrou ps.com>
                                    Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:24 PM
                                    Subject: [hameltech] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic


                                    > This just came in from one of he Ormus Groups I subscribe to .
                                    > maybe some of you might find this interesting & useful.
                                    > T
                                    > (no editing done on this page)
                                    > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~
                                    > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
                                    > Subject: Fw: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                                    >
                                    > ----- Forwarded Message ----
                                    > From: DonEMitchell <mitch@groupKOS. com>
                                    > To: DonEMitchell@ groupKOS. com
                                    > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 7:36:41 PM
                                    > Subject: [ORMUS_SWG] Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > KMTech, et al,
                                    > *
                                    > Errata*
                                    > This is a repost of the same article with the names corrected.
                                    >
                                    > Frank Znidarsic is the scientist with a breakthrough assembly of
                                    > classical physics against modern data from Bose-Einstein condensates and
                                    > nucleo-sonic (nuclear phonon) 'time-dilation' , ergo, light-speed
                                    > reduction, of the transition of an orbital electron to a different
                                    > electronic shell of an atom.
                                    >
                                    > When the measured electron wave transition found far (far) below
                                    > light-speed is considered against classical physics, Plank's constant is
                                    > explained to be the refractive index of a photon going from near
                                    > light-speed orbital velocity while bound in an electron shell, to the
                                    > velocity that a sonic wave travels on the positive wave-function of the
                                    > nucleus, the Coulomb field.
                                    >
                                    > The marvelous fit with modern alchemical sonic transmutation (E.G., of
                                    > salt to precious metals) and cold-fusion experiments, is the
                                    > experimental finding that the matter wave of a solid atomic lattice can
                                    > have the thermal energy polarized by an excited standing wave, such that
                                    > the whole of the matter lattice resonates as a whole with the
                                    > thermo-acoustic coherence to the exciting wave.
                                    >
                                    > While working with NASA attempting to duplicate the findings of Dr. Li,
                                    > Znidarsic's team found an harmonic constant that caused matter lattice
                                    > to behave as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC).
                                    >
                                    > This enables mathematical models using the transition event path of an
                                    > electron described as less than light speed, and harmonic at the same
                                    > frequency that the nucleus is phononically harmonic with electronic
                                    > pressures.  The coincidental frequencies are modeled by classical physics
                                    >
                                    > The harmonic frequency of the aether is found experimentally to be 1.094
                                    > million cycles per second-meter [e.g., a 1/3 meter disk is harmonic at 3
                                    > times 1.094 megaHertz].  This in effect is creation of a spin-gradient
                                    > across a macro-BEC that describes the standing wave.
                                    >
                                    > I'm sorry time and lack of illustration prevents a better projection to
                                    > your mind of the importance this theory holds as a new adhesive for
                                    > bright minds to ponder the applied science entailed by the ability to
                                    > morph a BEC sphere into a Golden Egg, for one [causing inertial
                                    > displacement of the unit due to asymmetry of the time-retardation well
                                    > near center of the spin axis].
                                    >
                                    > The following excerpt is from the post by 'AlienScientist' at youtube.com.
                                    >
                                    > DonEMitchell
                                    > http://groupKOS. com
                                    > http://portal. groupKOS. com/index. php?title= Control of the Natural Forces
                                    > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
                                    >
                                    > *Quantum reality absolved by Frank Znidarsic
                                    > *
                                    >
                                    > This is a most excellent video for anyone to ponder that is curious
                                    > about the widespread claims that quantum physics is bogus and desperate.
                                    >
                                    > Frank Znidarsic worked on the NASA team that tested Dr. Podkletnov's
                                    > gravity anomaly with spinning superconductors.
                                    >
                                    > This video is just out today (Tuesday, July 13, 2010).  A Must see!
                                    >
                                    > *Source: *http://www. youtube.com/ watch?v=Rr_ s28wIOzQ *posted by
                                    > 'AlienScientist' (youtube.com) *
                                    >
                                    > "Richard Feynman once said "It doesn't matter how smart you are, or
                                    > how brilliant your theory is. If it doesn't agree with experiment,
                                    > it's WRONG!" If you happen to go by a Barnes and Noble's this month,
                                    > stop in and pick up a copy of the July Issue of Infinite Energy
                                    > Magazine and look for Frank Znidarsic's Article on the Duality of
                                    > Matter and Waves.
                                    >
                                    > I'd really like to see if this theory is wrong, but I don't think it
                                    > is. At least until someone can show me how and why it fails. So far
                                    > it's only given right answers. You get the Compton wave of the
                                    > electron, the radii and intensities of spectral emissions, and it
                                    > explains why everything looked so confusing through the only lenses
                                    > which 1930s science permitted.
                                    >
                                    > The mathematical achievements of the past century are astounding in
                                    > retrospect to such a simplified theory of quantum mechanics. Yet the
                                    > math gives us real answers, and tells us these abstract
                                    > hyperdimensional modelings was just the speed of light refracting
                                    > into the electron shell which behaves like a Bose Condensate. The
                                    > first Bose Condensate wasn't created until 2003, the great
                                    > scientists never performed experiments with large diameter rotating
                                    > superconductors, so how could they possibly have known or seen this???"
                                    >
                                    > "The Original Paper:
                                    > http://www.scribd. com/doc/25455268 /Co...
                                    > <http://www.scribd. com/doc/25455268 /Control- of-the-Natural- Forces>
                                    >
                                    > A-reconciliation- of-Quantum- Mechanics- an
                                    >
                                    > d-Special-Relativit y: http://www.scribd. com/doc/33043355 /A-...
                                    > <http://www.scribd. com/doc/33043355 /A-reconciliatio n-of-Quantum- Mechanics- and-Special- Relativity>
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Background and additional info:
                                    > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ultravio. ..
                                    > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Ultraviolet_ catastrophe>
                                    > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Interpre. ..
                                    > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Interpretation_ of_quantum_ mechanics>
                                    >
                                    > Schrodinger and Dirac Equations:
                                    > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schr%C3%. ..
                                    > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schr%C3%B6dinger _equation>
                                    > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dirac_eq. ..
                                    > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dirac_equation>
                                    >
                                    > Bose-Einstein Condensate:
                                    > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Bose%E2%. ..
                                    > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Bose%E2%80% 93Einstein_ condensate>
                                    >
                                    > Harvard Bose Condensates stop and restart light:
                                    > http://www.news. harvard.edu/ gazette/2. ..
                                    > <http://www.news. harvard.edu/ gazette/2001/ 01.24/01- stoplight. html>
                                    >
                                    > Frank Znidarsic:
                                    > "I was part of the NASA team and am in your pictures to prove it. We
                                    > attempted the experiment twice. In both attempts, we made several
                                    > large SC disks, but never developed the rotation apparatus to test
                                    > them." "
                                    >
                                    > -DonEMitchell posted 2010.07.13
                                    >
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