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9857Re: 11112: Balancing Cone

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  • tvboycott
    Dec 2, 2003
      Thanks Jon,

      I tinkered with smaller rings last night and think I found the right
      size. It is a little strong but if I add weight to the cone it
      should be alright.

      I think I have the setup close now. I am going to put together three
      cones this week. And the other two rings this weekend.

      Thanks again.


      --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, "Jon C. Munson II" <jmunson@h...>
      > your cone should not 'rest' on the oscillator, but instead 'touch'
      > oscillator. the magnetic rings should 'float' the cone. this is
      > the cause of your imbalance. one other possibility is the strength
      of your
      > magnets - they may be off enough to cause the 'tip.' lastly, check
      > 'alignment' - ensure that all of your magnets on each ring are on
      the same
      > plane.
      > one more word about floating the cone. the cone needs to be
      supported (not
      > contained) by the magnetism of the ring. you may have to add
      weight to the
      > cone (or use weaker magnets) to lower it further into the field.
      you want
      > it placed just before the 'snap' or 'neutral point' in the field.
      i am not
      > sure how to explain this better - maybe chris or ole or justin can
      provide a
      > better written description. the magnetic viewing film can assist
      with this
      > if you cannot feel the field properly.
      > if you are building a mini, i believe chris wrapped some copper
      wire around
      > the magnets to help unify the field. you may wish to check that.
      > hth,
      > jon
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: tvboycott [mailto:mkowalsk@n...]
      > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:13
      > To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [hameltech] 11112: Balancing Cone
      > Hi all,
      > So far I have constructed an oscillator, a cone and ring, and an
      > adjustable frame to hold it in.
      > I wanted to construct each piece to get an idea of workable
      > techniques for each so that I have a process that is repeatable.
      > This way I can try and have 3 cones that are matched because they
      > were all made the same way.
      > I have noticed something a little weird. When I place my cone
      > the stand, on top of the oscillator it balances slightly off
      > of my outer ring. In addition it is tipped a little higher on one
      > side.
      > If put the tip of the cone on a smooth surface (at the same
      height as
      > the pin at the center of my oscillator) it will balance, but if I
      > give the cone a nudge it will kick the bottom out and crash the
      > cone. If I am on my pivot point it will stay in a confined
      > although the cone is tipped and off center.
      > My first thought was my outer ring was deformed. So I made a
      > ring and it is still happening.
      > It could be my oscillator. I will know more when I make better
      > this week and see if it is still lopsided.
      > Still building.
      > Mike
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