Re: [hackers-il] The Freshmeat Effect
- On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Shlomi Fish wrote:
>For google the age is not very relevant (the index gets updated once a
> Most of you are probably familiar with the Slashdot Effect. However, I
> recently noticed another important effect which I call the Freshmeat
> Effect. I'll try to describe it here.
> The Freshmeat Effect is examplified that if a project constantly appears
> on the Freshmeat front-page, it eventually starts to clog the results of
> various search engines, especially Freshmeat. I noticed this phenomenon
> with my own program - Freecell Solver. Searching for "Freecell Solver" on
> Google yields 9 out of the 10 first results as those that are directly
> relevant to it. (and the tenth is something I can't quite understand).
> Moreover, the other links in this search category are usually relevant to
> Note that the query "freecell solver" is quite generic and someone may use
> it to search for any computerized (or human) solver of Freecell, not
> necessarily my own. But they'll have a hard time finding such relevant
> URLs. And FYI, there are several other computer solvers in existence,
> some of them much olderthan my own. (AAMOF, some university courses
> require the students to write one)
month or so, right?), but it matters where they are pointed from. I figure
that your program/library is linked-to from various sites, not only
>I haven't noticed this with Freshmeat before, but this is typical to the
> Of course, there are other places where the Freshmeat Effect becomes
> apparent, even if the relevant entity has never appeared on Freshmeat
way google works: freashmeat is probably a very trustworthy source (=
pointed to by many other trustworthy pages), with tons of internal links
(is that relevant).
In a way, google can be used here as a "meta-search engine", by indexing
fixed results of some known searches.
Have you tried comparing google to other search engines?
Try adding the "keyword" rpm to some search regarding a certain linux
software, and you'll end up with entries from various rpmfind databases.
Again, those are "good" sources for google.
>Of course, you should not abuse it and update freshemat with every small
> I don't think the Freshmeat effect is entirely negative or entirely
> positive. It's just there, and until there are going to be "better" search
> engines than Google, I suggest people to "release early, release often"
> and naturally, "do it yourself, because nobody else will do it for you".
bug you fix as a new version. Eventually freshmeat will stop taking your