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Revealed: US dirty tricks to win vote on Iraq war

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  • ali_m_rizvi <ali_m_rizvi@yahoo.com>
    Hi everybody, This is without comments http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,905899,00.html best regards ali
    Message 1 of 3 , Mar 1 7:46 PM
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      Hi everybody,

      This is without comments

      http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,905899,00.html

      best regards
      ali
    • gedavis1 <gedavis1@yahoo.com>
      If many diplomats at the UN assume they are being bugged, the only dirty trick here is that someone in the European camp is undermining the Rumsfeld/Rice
      Message 2 of 3 , Mar 1 8:28 PM
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        If "many diplomats at the UN assume they are being bugged," the only
        dirty trick here is that someone in the European camp is undermining
        the Rumsfeld/Rice camp within the Bush administration, which seems to
        me a healthy thing.

        Note that the article doesn't suggest that anything extraordinary, let
        alone violent, is being "informally" suggested; only an
        intensification of ordinary means.

        The only scandal is that advocates of a muscular inspections regime
        (in place of war) can play rough, too, when they don't have good
        intelligence resources themselves.

        "The operation appears to have been spotted by rival organisations in
        Europe. 'The Americans are being very purposeful about this,' said a
        source at a European intelligence agency when asked about the US
        surveillance efforts."

        I bet that source is the leak, too.

        The interplay of "rival"s takes place within the intellgence
        community, just as it does via press releases. Indeed, the European
        source doesn't seem too surprised, by saying that the Americans are
        "being very purposeful," as if the point is that the Europeans
        *aren't* being very purposeful about this---probably because they
        don't have the resources, not because they wouldn't do "rival"
        surveillance if they could. So, it's back to press releases, i.e.,
        leaks, when you don't have other means of competition.

        It's like calling your adversary names, when you don't know what else
        to do.

        regards,

        Gary
      • Tommy Beavitt
        I agree with Gary s sentiment that this is a good ie. a communicationalist phenomenon. It is good that the Powers are busy playing games it is what they
        Message 3 of 3 , Mar 3 11:17 AM
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          I agree with Gary's sentiment that this is a "good" ie. a
          communicationalist phenomenon. It is good that the Powers are busy
          "playing games" it is what they are supposed to do. It is still my
          hope that out-and-out war can be avoided here; that slow but steady
          progress on arms inspections will benefit everyone: the Americans who
          won't lose face (because progress is seen to be being made in
          response to their gunboat diplomacy tactics); neither will the
          Europeans and neither funnily enough will Saddam who may yet redeem
          himself as an international figure by raising his game, by disarming
          by inches, by manipulating world opinion through creative news
          management such as introduction of democratic principles to how Iraq
          is governed and gaining international interest in his country through
          brinkmanship.

          regards

          Tommy

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