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  • Sancho of Nabaclis
    I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National
    Message 1 of 26 , Mar 1, 2006
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      I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985”,
      I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task – like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle – adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
      I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
      Any enlightening take you may have accessed
      What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
      An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
       
       
      I managed to read the following;
       
      I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
       
       
      President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
      New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes – and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
       
      In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
       


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    • roger moore
      No matter how you twist and turn Sancho Burnham was the best person that ever happened for Guyana and the Caribbean. Not only did Guyanese voted for Burnham as
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        No matter how you twist and turn Sancho Burnham was the best person that ever happened for Guyana and the Caribbean. Not only did Guyanese voted for Burnham as Caribbean man of the Century but the majority of the Caribbean did as well. Don't let your hatred for the the man, for no apparent reason might I add, cloud your man. He was great for the Caribbean and Guyana.
        Roger Moore

        Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
        I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985”,
        I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task – like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle – adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
        I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
        Any enlightening take you may have accessed
        What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
        An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
         
         
        I managed to read the following;
         
        I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
         
         
        President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
        New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes – and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
         
        In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
         


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        History of Golden Grove and Nabaclis Village District, East Sea Coast Demerara, Guyana.
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      • Carol Williams
        Can you inform on the literature on Burnham? Did he write any books, are his speeches available? roger moore wrote: No matter how you
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          Can you inform on the literature on Burnham? Did he write any books, are his speeches available?

          roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
          No matter how you twist and turn Sancho Burnham was the best person that ever happened for Guyana and the Caribbean. Not only did Guyanese voted for Burnham as Caribbean man of the Century but the majority of the Caribbean did as well. Don't let your hatred for the the man, for no apparent reason might I add, cloud your man. He was great for the Caribbean and Guyana.
          Roger Moore

          Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
          I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985”,
          I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task – like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle – adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
          I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
          Any enlightening take you may have accessed
          What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
          An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
           
           
          I managed to read the following;
           
          I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
           
           
          President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
          New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes – and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
           
          In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
           


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          Researching - Sancho, Campbell, Young (Younge), Solomon, Ross & Martin - Families of Guyana.
          History of Golden Grove and Nabaclis Village District, East Sea Coast Demerara, Guyana.
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        • Sancho of Nabaclis
          Roger What are you mumbling about? No way upon earth would Blacks of Jamaica vote a non Jamaican over Garvey, Tosh, Marley, Bunny Wailer - not even Walter
          Message 4 of 26 , Mar 1, 2006
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            Roger
            What are you mumbling about?  No way upon earth would Blacks of Jamaica vote a non Jamaican over Garvey, Tosh, Marley, Bunny Wailer - not even Walter Rodney nor Eric Williams . am I to believe Dominicas, Haitians, Jamaicans, Trinidadians, Bajan, Grenadians and the remainder of the Caribbean voted for  Burnham..Well what kind of fool you take Sancho for...you can fool some people some time but you can't fool all the people all the time..Roger you crossed the line of no return - you and the writer of that paragraph totally disrespect not only Guyanese but the entire Caribbean region...What are you ? Are you stoned? There are folks of the caribbean who do not recall his name but the know of Garvey and Marley -You make no sense at all...No Rasta man would vote for Burnham...they aren't that crazy...
             
            My Caribbean Man of the Century would be one of these Garvey, Blyden, Marley, Malcolm X, Roger B. Moore, Schomburg, Rodney, Eric Williams, Eugene Felix Michael Hercules, J. Robert Love, Slyvester Williams, C. L. R. James, Gary Sobers, Padmore - all are heroes of the masses   of Black people and none is clouded with inhumanity to man. perhaps you never heard of them...narrow minds can justify anybody and or thing...but the upfull
             
            You are off your rocker...such a poll would have to be more rigged than any elections I have ever heard..Not even the Marcos could rigg like that why are you taking Sancho for an idiot...the only Guyanese who ought to be considered for such honours are Rodney, Van Sertima, Jan Carew, George G M James, Kanhai and Ramphal.

            roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
            No matter how you twist and turn Sancho Burnham was the best person that ever happened for Guyana and the Caribbean. Not only did Guyanese voted for Burnham as Caribbean man of the Century but the majority of the Caribbean did as well. Don't let your hatred for the the man, for no apparent reason might I add, cloud your man. He was great for the Caribbean and Guyana.
            Roger Moore

            Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
            I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985”,
            I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task – like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle – adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
            I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
            Any enlightening take you may have accessed
            What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
            An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
             
             
            I managed to read the following;
             
            I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
             
             
            President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
            New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes – and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
             
            In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
             


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            History of Golden Grove and Nabaclis Village District, East Sea Coast Demerara, Guyana.
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            History of Golden Grove and Nabaclis Village District, East Sea Coast Demerara, Guyana.
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          • roger moore
            Its not about what books he wrote, though one that comes to mind is a Destiny to Mould , but the impact that he made on the Caribbean and Guyana. It is
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              Its not about what books he wrote, though one that comes to mind is a 'Destiny to Mould', but the impact that he made on the Caribbean and Guyana. It is obvious that the voters thought so
               
              Roger

              Carol Williams <cviva2001@...> wrote:
              Can you inform on the literature on Burnham? Did he write any books, are his speeches available?

              roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
              No matter how you twist and turn Sancho Burnham was the best person that ever happened for Guyana and the Caribbean. Not only did Guyanese voted for Burnham as Caribbean man of the Century but the majority of the Caribbean did as well. Don't let your hatred for the the man, for no apparent reason might I add, cloud your man. He was great for the Caribbean and Guyana.
              Roger Moore

              Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
              I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985”,
              I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task – like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle – adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
              I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
              Any enlightening take you may have accessed
              What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
              An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
               
               
              I managed to read the following;
               
              I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
               
               
              President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
              New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes – and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
               
              In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
               


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              M'lilwana Osanku - Sancho of Nabaclis.
              Researching - Sancho, Campbell, Young (Younge), Solomon, Ross & Martin - Families of Guyana.
              History of Golden Grove and Nabaclis Village District, East Sea Coast Demerara, Guyana.
              "A people without the knowledge of their past history, origin and culture is like a tree without roots." The Most Honourable Marcus Garvey (1887-1940) People's Power Forever Vote AFC Tme for Change - down with ethnic politics -

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            • Sancho of Nabaclis
              In the name of the people of African Origins - tell me ; Which of you can entertain such a sordid notion suggesting Burnham as Caribbean Man of the Century?
              Message 6 of 26 , Mar 1, 2006
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                In the name of the people of African Origins - tell me ; Which of you can entertain such a sordid notion suggesting Burnham as Caribbean Man of the Century?  Send your thoughts to Roger Moore and myself - thank you very much Jah.Guide
                 
                Good people - please attempt to educate this confused Burnhamitie...Good Lord please send Africans in Guyana a  Paul Bogle, and his brother Moses Bogle...to pave the way for afrocentricity...
                 
                Roger, dear fellow, why in the name of the ancestors must you be so unreasonable? Such behaviour is expected of those unfortunately resident in Fort St. Andries. Are you insisting that the people of the Caribbean are so mentally deficient as to honestly choose a character such as Burnham as Caribbean Man of the Century..
                 


                roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                That is your problem, Sancho. Its always about what you think, not about what everybody chose. The fact is the vote for Burnham was Caribbean wise. Why they did not choose those you mentioned. Wake up and smell the roses; or you below ground already?
                Roger

                Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                Roger
                What are you mumbling about?  No way upon earth would Blacks of Jamaica vote a non Jamaican over Garvey, Tosh, Marley, Bunny Wailer - not even Walter Rodney nor Eric Williams . am I to believe Dominicas, Haitians, Jamaicans, Trinidadians, Bajan, Grenadians and the remainder of the Caribbean voted for  Burnham..Well what kind of fool you take Sancho for...you can fool some people some time but you can't fool all the people all the time..Roger you crossed the line of no return - you and the writer of that paragraph totally disrespect not only Guyanese but the entire Caribbean region...What are you ? Are you stoned? There are folks of the caribbean who do not recall his name but the know of Garvey and Marley -You make no sense at all...No Rasta man would vote for Burnham...they aren't that crazy...
                 
                My Caribbean Man of the Century would be one of these Garvey, Blyden, Marley, Malcolm X, Roger B. Moore, Schomburg, Rodney, Eric Williams, Eugene Felix Michael Hercules, J. Robert Love, Slyvester Williams, C. L. R. James, Gary Sobers, Padmore - all are heroes of the masses   of Black people and none is clouded with inhumanity to man. perhaps you never heard of them...narrow minds can justify anybody and or thing...but the upfull
                 
                You are off your rocker...such a poll would have to be more rigged than any elections I have ever heard..Not even the Marcos could rigg like that why are you taking Sancho for an idiot...the only Guyanese who ought to be considered for such honours are Rodney, Van Sertima, Jan Carew, George G M James, Kanhai and Ramphal.

                roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                No matter how you twist and turn Sancho Burnham was the best person that ever happened for Guyana and the Caribbean. Not only did Guyanese voted for Burnham as Caribbean man of the Century but the majority of the Caribbean did as well. Don't let your hatred for the the man, for no apparent reason might I add, cloud your man. He was great for the Caribbean and Guyana.
                Roger Moore

                Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985”,
                I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task – like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle – adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
                Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
                 
                 
                I managed to read the following;
                 
                I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                 
                 
                President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
                New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes – and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                 
                In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                 


                Eternal Blessings, Love, Peace, Power & Unity
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              • Sancho of Nabaclis
                A number of his speeches was printed and titled a Destiny to Mould. However, the Schomburg Center for Black Studies have in it collection a number of his
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                  A number of his speeches was printed and titled a Destiny to Mould. However, the Schomburg Center for Black Studies have in it collection a number of his utterances. It is not accepted that Forbes wrote anything at all. again What is known to be preserved, are speeches.
                  The Schomburg center offers a wide collection of material written  on Guyana by both Guyanese and foreigners.
                  Recently, it was my greatest pleasure to read Leo's Poetry in the center...Leo Martin was the foremost poet in the history of Guyana, if not the Americas. I sent an email to Mr. Howard Dodson recommending that the Schomburg Center acquire guyanese biographical books - primarily who is who in British Guiana the first three editions and the history of British Guiana Teachers' Association..

                  roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                  Its not about what books he wrote, though one that comes to mind is a 'Destiny to Mould', but the impact that he made on the Caribbean and Guyana. It is obvious that the voters thought so
                   
                  Roger

                  Carol Williams <cviva2001@...> wrote:
                  Can you inform on the literature on Burnham? Did he write any books, are his speeches available?

                  roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                  No matter how you twist and turn Sancho Burnham was the best person that ever happened for Guyana and the Caribbean. Not only did Guyanese voted for Burnham as Caribbean man of the Century but the majority of the Caribbean did as well. Don't let your hatred for the the man, for no apparent reason might I add, cloud your man. He was great for the Caribbean and Guyana.
                  Roger Moore

                  Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                  I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985”,
                  I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task – like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle – adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                  I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
                  Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                  What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                  An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
                   
                   
                  I managed to read the following;
                   
                  I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                   
                   
                  President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
                  New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes – and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                   
                  In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                   


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                • roger moore
                  Thank God where would he find time to write when he had a country to run? Roger Sancho of Nabaclis wrote: A number of his speeches
                  Message 8 of 26 , Mar 1, 2006
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                    Thank God where would he find time to write when he had a country to run?
                    Roger

                    Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                    A number of his speeches was printed and titled a Destiny to Mould. However, the Schomburg Center for Black Studies have in it collection a number of his utterances. It is not accepted that Forbes wrote anything at all. again What is known to be preserved, are speeches.
                    The Schomburg center offers a wide collection of material written  on Guyana by both Guyanese and foreigners.
                    Recently, it was my greatest pleasure to read Leo's Poetry in the center...Leo Martin was the foremost poet in the history of Guyana, if not the Americas. I sent an email to Mr. Howard Dodson recommending that the Schomburg Center acquire guyanese biographical books - primarily who is who in British Guiana the first three editions and the history of British Guiana Teachers' Association..

                    roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                    Its not about what books he wrote, though one that comes to mind is a 'Destiny to Mould', but the impact that he made on the Caribbean and Guyana. It is obvious that the voters thought so
                     
                    Roger

                    Carol Williams <cviva2001@...> wrote:
                    Can you inform on the literature on Burnham? Did he write any books, are his speeches available?

                    roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                    No matter how you twist and turn Sancho Burnham was the best person that ever happened for Guyana and the Caribbean. Not only did Guyanese voted for Burnham as Caribbean man of the Century but the majority of the Caribbean did as well. Don't let your hatred for the the man, for no apparent reason might I add, cloud your man. He was great for the Caribbean and Guyana.
                    Roger Moore

                    Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                    I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985”,
                    I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task – like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle – adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                    I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
                    Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                    What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                    An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
                     
                     
                    I managed to read the following;
                     
                    I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                     
                     
                    President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
                    New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes – and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                     
                    In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                     


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                    History of Golden Grove and Nabaclis Village District, East Sea Coast Demerara, Guyana.
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                  • Sancho of Nabaclis
                    Even you will recognise and concede the Most Honourable Dr. Eric Williams was by far a better human being than your brother Forbes was. The fat boy
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                      Even you will recognise and concede the Most Honourable Dr. Eric Williams was by far a better human being than your brother Forbes was.  The fat boy assassinated the brilliant and extraordinarily talented African teacher and philosopher, Dr, Walter Rodney.  Burnham did not stop there but threatened the welfare of Fred Wills.  I understand, among others, GDF soldiers; my brother’s life was in danger.
                       
                       Well let me enlighten you.  Sancho had stood by Forbes in the early going.  Bertrand Abrams, T. Anson Sancho, Uncle Oswald Sancho later U. Leebert Sancho - and his father Charlie Sancho in Bachelor's Adventure, were all Burnhamities.  Another Sancho, Emerson Samuel, painted his portrait.  Burnham was at varying times surrounded by my loved ones.  There may have been other Sanchos in Burnham’s corner, such as Harold Lutchman, and Joycellyne Loncke.  Research is continuing.
                       
                      I believe my parents were too, were Burnhamities.  They will not admit it.  By 1968, they distanced themselves from the PNC.  I often heard my father saying had he waited for Haynes and or Wills –instead of take a poor substitute, Burnham he would not have suffered defeat in the Courtroom.  Besides, he was fortunate to have Haynes and Wills to come to his rescue.  So do not think of selling me that Burnham was the greatest lawyer of the Caribbean.

                      Burnham then showed Sancho his colours; Burnham them gave Sancho his but to kiss – when they refused they begun abandoning Guyana – for alien lands – some swearing never to return even to rest in peace with the ancestors.
                      Personally, cancelling my mother's pension after a 45-year career as a primary Schoolteacher April 1928 - September 1972.
                      Stealing the Shareholders's land at Golden Grove where he Burnham built a memorial to himself.
                      My mother, her sister, and relatives lost their land in the Burnham madness.
                       
                      Castro gave his family’s land to the Cuban people – Burnham stole from the shareholders of Golden Grove and Nabaclis.
                       
                      There you have Burnham used then abused Sanchos.  However, it is the generations of Golden Grove and Nabaclis folks who lain down.  They simply refused to stand up with the female Sanchos.  The females were trying to prevent the peoples land including their own from being used for Burnham's whims.  I am most angry at the folks, who let Burnham do as he please in Golden Grove and Nabaclis. I am angry at those of my community who attacked Indians and their property. In fact, it is accurate to note that I still hate their actions - and or non movement as the case - such as the land grabbing scheme.
                       
                       Golden Grove and Nabaclis folks let Sancho down, again.  The only period they did not let Sancho down was between 1848 and 1884.  Those old timers stood with Bentick Sancho.  That is the Golden Grove I am most proud thereof.  I pray that stout leaders will again rise out of that chaos my beloved adopted ancestral home now finds itself due chiefly to the fact they bowed down to Forbes.  They turned their back on the dreams of the forty-eight shareholders.
                      When I left the East Coast, it was in a horrible state.  There were daily dosages of power and water shortages – to go with fuel and food shortages.  You would have money and nothing to buy.  I had to tilt the soil to ensure a ready supply of green leafy vegetables were readily available for home consumption.  Now it is worst.  Then police Sharma and his crew were killing people.  Now the petty criminals have armed themselves the cowardly forces are scaring the nation with their gun and ammunition.  It is death and destruction everywhere.  Retards crying for and defending their Burnham.  Had someone belled that fat cat before January 1977?  I would still be at in the tropics.

                      roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                      Thank God where would he find time to write when he had a country to run?
                      Roger

                      Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                      A number of his speeches was printed and titled a Destiny to Mould. However, the Schomburg Center for Black Studies have in it collection a number of his utterances. It is not accepted that Forbes wrote anything at all. again What is known to be preserved, are speeches.
                      The Schomburg center offers a wide collection of material written  on Guyana by both Guyanese and foreigners.
                      Recently, it was my greatest pleasure to read Leo's Poetry in the center...Leo Martin was the foremost poet in the history of Guyana, if not the Americas. I sent an email to Mr. Howard Dodson recommending that the Schomburg Center acquire guyanese biographical books - primarily who is who in British Guiana the first three editions and the history of British Guiana Teachers' Association..

                      roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                      Its not about what books he wrote, though one that comes to mind is a 'Destiny to Mould', but the impact that he made on the Caribbean and Guyana. It is obvious that the voters thought so
                       
                      Roger

                      Carol Williams <cviva2001@...> wrote:
                      Can you inform on the literature on Burnham? Did he write any books, are his speeches available?

                      roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                      No matter how you twist and turn Sancho Burnham was the best person that ever happened for Guyana and the Caribbean. Not only did Guyanese voted for Burnham as Caribbean man of the Century but the majority of the Caribbean did as well. Don't let your hatred for the the man, for no apparent reason might I add, cloud your man. He was great for the Caribbean and Guyana.
                      Roger Moore

                      Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                      I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985”,
                      I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task – like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle – adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                      I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
                      Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                      What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                      An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
                       
                       
                      I managed to read the following;
                       
                      I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                       
                       
                      President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
                      New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes – and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                       
                      In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                       


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                      History of Golden Grove and Nabaclis Village District, East Sea Coast Demerara, Guyana.
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                    • Neville Quelch
                      Now we are really heating up without an end in sight. Was Burnham as great as the Caribbean believed? Is Sancho the racist Black history student right in
                      Message 10 of 26 , Mar 1, 2006
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                        Now we are really heating up without an end in sight.  Was Burnham as great as the Caribbean believed?  Is Sancho the racist Black history student right in disrespecting Burnham?  And where does one Anthony Persaud fit into this fight between two brothas?
                         
                        O Laud! Oh Laud!
                         
                        I saw "Feed House and Clothe Ourselves by 1976" in action when I spent 6 months in Guyana back in 1972..
                          There were housing developments going up every where.  Food was being dumped in the Demerara River at the end of the day and the stores were filled with clothes.  1976 was approaching with the country having reached the goal with years to spare.  I don't believe that Sancho was born and haven't a clue of what such prosperity was. 
                         
                        That was the year the Guyana hosted the Non-Aligned countries and Carifesta.  No shortages of Hotels or places to stay.  No shortages of food.  It was like being in a tropical paradise.
                         
                        Why Was I in Guyana in 1972?  I had gone back to work on the Electrification program that was to string a 67 KV Transmission Line from Canje in Berbice to Diamond, just south of Georgetown.  To convert all appliances to 60 Hz from the British system of 50 Hz.  At completion, the sugar plantations could sell excess power to the Electricity Corporationt and buy in times of need.  The power supply would come from the old Kingston Plant, 6 Diesel/generators in New Amsterdam and a station to be built at Diamond.  Enough power to encourage industry along the Transmission Line route which in turn would allow people to live and work in their communities.
                         
                        Georgetown would not be as congested as it presently is.  Young girls would not have to leave their communities for Georgetown where they would have to prostitute themselves in order to eat and/or find a place to live. 
                         
                        Guyana would need to invite immigrants from West Indian countries as labour was needed to met the growing country.  The immigrants would have to come from the WI because the culture was similar and we could all live in harmony. 
                         
                        I don't feel like continuing what might have been if the oil embargo of 1974 didn't come along.  But it is sufficient to say that the oil embargo did irreparable damage to Guyana.  I am not planning on writing a book on that or even an article.  Sancho is a Good researcher.  I leave it to him.
                         
                        I have one bit of advice for Sancho.  Do not study history without studying the economics of the country of the period you are studying.  Much of the history you write about is meaningless to me because it dos not convey any supporting evidence.  A typical example is the American fight for independence from England.  Why did they fight?  What caused it?
                         
                        You also gave Dr. Eric Williams a bit of a rough time without even reading his works.  I would suggest that you grow up before trying to express yourself to an experienced audience.
                         
                        Finally, anyone with such vision as LFSB would win "Man of the Century" every century.

                        Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                        Even you will recognise and concede the Most Honourable Dr. Eric Williams was by far a better human being than your brother Forbes was.  The fat boy assassinated the brilliant and extraordinarily talented African teacher and philosopher, Dr, Walter Rodney.  Burnham did not stop there but threatened the welfare of Fred Wills.  I understand, among others, GDF soldiers; my brother’s life was in danger.
                         
                         Well let me enlighten you.  Sancho had stood by Forbes in the early going.  Bertrand Abrams, T. Anson Sancho, Uncle Oswald Sancho later U. Leebert Sancho - and his father Charlie Sancho in Bachelor's Adventure, were all Burnhamities.  Another Sancho, Emerson Samuel, painted his portrait.  Burnham was at varying times surrounded by my loved ones.  There may have been other Sanchos in Burnham’s corner, such as Harold Lutchman, and Joycellyne Loncke.  Research is continuing.
                         
                        I believe my parents were too, were Burnhamities.  They will not admit it.  By 1968, they distanced themselves from the PNC.  I often heard my father saying had he waited for Haynes and or Wills –instead of take a poor substitute, Burnham he would not have suffered defeat in the Courtroom.  Besides, he was fortunate to have Haynes and Wills to come to his rescue.  So do not think of selling me that Burnham was the greatest lawyer of the Caribbean.

                        Burnham then showed Sancho his colours; Burnham them gave Sancho his but to kiss – when they refused they begun abandoning Guyana – for alien lands – some swearing never to return even to rest in peace with the ancestors.
                        Personally, cancelling my mother's pension after a 45-year career as a primary Schoolteacher April 1928 - September 1972.
                        Stealing the Shareholders's land at Golden Grove where he Burnham built a memorial to himself.
                        My mother, her sister, and relatives lost their land in the Burnham madness.
                         
                        Castro gave his family’s land to the Cuban people – Burnham stole from the shareholders of Golden Grove and Nabaclis.
                         
                        There you have Burnham used then abused Sanchos.  However, it is the generations of Golden Grove and Nabaclis folks who lain down.  They simply refused to stand up with the female Sanchos.  The females were trying to prevent the peoples land including their own from being used for Burnham's whims.  I am most angry at the folks, who let Burnham do as he please in Golden Grove and Nabaclis. I am angry at those of my community who attacked Indians and their property. In fact, it is accurate to note that I still hate their actions - and or non movement as the case - such as the land grabbing scheme.
                         
                         Golden Grove and Nabaclis folks let Sancho down, again.  The only period they did not let Sancho down was between 1848 and 1884.  Those old timers stood with Bentick Sancho.  That is the Golden Grove I am most proud thereof.  I pray that stout leaders will again rise out of that chaos my beloved adopted ancestral home now finds itself due chiefly to the fact they bowed down to Forbes.  They turned their back on the dreams of the forty-eight shareholders.
                        When I left the East Coast, it was in a horrible state.  There were daily dosages of power and water shortages – to go with fuel and food shortages.  You would have money and nothing to buy.  I had to tilt the soil to ensure a ready supply of green leafy vegetables were readily available for home consumption.  Now it is worst.  Then police Sharma and his crew were killing people.  Now the petty criminals have armed themselves the cowardly forces are scaring the nation with their gun and ammunition.  It is death and destruction everywhere.  Retards crying for and defending their Burnham.  Had someone belled that fat cat before January 1977?  I would still be at in the tropics.

                        roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                        Thank God where would he find time to write when he had a country to run?
                        Roger

                        Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                        A number of his speeches was printed and titled a Destiny to Mould. However, the Schomburg Center for Black Studies have in it collection a number of his utterances. It is not accepted that Forbes wrote anything at all. again What is known to be preserved, are speeches.
                        The Schomburg center offers a wide collection of material written  on Guyana by both Guyanese and foreigners.
                        Recently, it was my greatest pleasure to read Leo's Poetry in the center...Leo Martin was the foremost poet in the history of Guyana, if not the Americas. I sent an email to Mr. Howard Dodson recommending that the Schomburg Center acquire guyanese biographical books - primarily who is who in British Guiana the first three editions and the history of British Guiana Teachers' Association..

                        roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                        Its not about what books he wrote, though one that comes to mind is a 'Destiny to Mould', but the impact that he made on the Caribbean and Guyana. It is obvious that the voters thought so
                         
                        Roger

                        Carol Williams <cviva2001@...> wrote:
                        Can you inform on the literature on Burnham? Did he write any books, are his speeches available?

                        roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                        No matter how you twist and turn Sancho Burnham was the best person that ever happened for Guyana and the Caribbean. Not only did Guyanese voted for Burnham as Caribbean man of the Century but the majority of the Caribbean did as well. Don't let your hatred for the the man, for no apparent reason might I add, cloud your man. He was great for the Caribbean and Guyana.
                        Roger Moore

                        Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                        I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985”,
                        I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task – like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle – adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                        I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
                        Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                        What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                        An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
                         
                         
                        I managed to read the following;
                         
                        I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                         
                         
                        President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
                        New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes – and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                         
                        In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                         


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                      • Sancho of Nabaclis
                        Neville Let get a few things straight; 1. Roger Moore is not my brother in stretch of imagination. Roger Moore is not a Young, Younge, Not a Campbell
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                          Neville
                          Let get a few things straight;
                           
                          1.       Roger Moore is not my brother in stretch of imagination.  Roger Moore is not a Young, Younge, Not a Campbell and hell not there is not one drop of Bentick Sancho’s DNA in him.
                          2.       Malcolm X is my brother.  He taught me if a person does not think as I do then that person is your enemy.
                          3.       Marcus Garvey is my father. He taught me. To see your enemy and to know him is part of the complete education of man. Roger Moore is no brother of Sancho. He is an enemy. Look up my surname list you will find my brothers. There is no roger Moore their in.  I am tired of people telling who I am supposed to be. I am a Black man. I happened to be birthed in Berbice. I am two things man and Sancho. I stand for the human Rights of man. I do not defend murderers such as Burnham. That  duty Nigger refused to send helicopters to look for me when I lost in the Jungles of Guyana. I had to find my way back to paruni in the Pakarima Mountains. 
                          4.       Roger Moore disrespected Sancho. I read his take upon Andrew Lutchman’s articles.  I was sick to my stomach.  I knew, then, Roger is an enemy of mine.  You do not mess with a Sancho and expect me to be pleasant with you.
                          5.       Sancho did not depend on Burnham for anything – Bentick, John and Tuckness Sancho – laid down the foundations for their descendants in Nabaclis and Golden Grove. All you have to do is look at the folks connected to the Sancho kinship.  None depended on PNC and Burnham
                          6.       Again, I am not surprised you are incorrect.  Concerning Eric Williams, I told you I was very familiar with the Doctor’s lectures at the University Of Woodford Square – and his writing especially those concerning British Guiana.  ...Doctor is among my Favourite historians.  However, I am researching the social history of the kinship of Sancho, Campbell and Young, and their communities – and that would mean social history of rural communities of British Guiana, Barbados, Trinidad, and St. Vincent.  I expect it will include London, Columbia, and Grenada in the near future.
                          7.       Well it is sad that you blame the Arab Oil Crisis for the fall of Guyana.
                          8.       What is worst a man who stole is your hero.  Who are you people?  No morals.  Burnahm stole elections after elections – he is no different from Christopher Columbus just another pirate…a stoolie of the US and UK governments…
                          9.       Caribbean greats of the twentieth century; Castro, Garvey, Marley, Rodney, Lloyd, Eddy Grant, Sobers, Sparrow, Williams, C. L. R. James, Kitchener, Roger B. Moore, Malcolm X, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Patrick Ewing, Tim Duncan, and Schomburg  all those people would triple the number of votes Burnham would muster.  Burnham never won a national election in Guyana.  Yet you clowns expect people to believe he supersedes great people of the Caribbean.  Burnham is not the man of the century in Guyana.  That honour would belong to one of these three; Jagan, Rodney and Kwayana.  Malcolm X, Schomburg, Imhotep, Maceo, and Garvey are perhaps the five greatest Blackmen of all times.
                          10.   To hell with Burnham – it must be about the people and the state of Guyana.  Long live, the people of Guyana – they will embark upon the road to developed nation status despite the enemies including Burnham, PNC and the politicians and criminal who continue to wage warfare on the people of Guyana…Love live the shareholders – long live people’s power.
                          11.    I asked you if you were the Grand wizard of the KKK, less than three weeks ago.  Prior to that, I wrote extensively on my views of politics in Guyana.  I believe an Indian nation in the Americas is the best solution to the African and Indian problem.  I said the problem begum in May 1838 – and was magnified during the second strike in 1847 when the Black labouring population was defeated in their attempts to earn better wages and conditions of labour.  They blamed the Indians and non-Guianese born blacks for this defeat.  They never accepted that the Europeans used the Indians against them.  This problem of labour – became a major political problem during the early 1950’s.  Why would you be ecstatic when a Negro is attempting to ridicule an entire kinship of people of African origins, who never bowed down to political ambitions of vicious people?  Were you overjoyed when Burnham assassinated Rodney?  You seem to delight in such inhumane activities…Who are you the reincarnation of Michael McTurk and John Gladstone all rolled into one being?
                          12.   I am sick of people hating back people – Lord Where’s Colin Ferguson?  Michael X and those types to eradicate folks from the globe.  Moses where are you?  People are sinning against the creator and creation…


                          Neville Quelch <nunicorng@...> wrote:
                          Now we are really heating up without an end in sight.  Was Burnham as great as the Caribbean believed?  Is Sancho the racist Black history student right in disrespecting Burnham?  And where does one Anthony Persaud fit into this fight between two brothas?
                           
                          O Laud! Oh Laud!
                           
                          I saw "Feed House and Clothe Ourselves by 1976" in action when I spent 6 months in Guyana back in 1972..
                            There were housing developments going up every where.  Food was being dumped in the Demerara River at the end of the day and the stores were filled with clothes.  1976 was approaching with the country having reached the goal with years to spare.  I don't believe that Sancho was born and haven't a clue of what such prosperity was. 
                           
                          That was the year the Guyana hosted the Non-Aligned countries and Carifesta.  No shortages of Hotels or places to stay.  No shortages of food.  It was like being in a tropical paradise.
                           
                          Why Was I in Guyana in 1972?  I had gone back to work on the Electrification program that was to string a 67 KV Transmission Line from Canje in Berbice to Diamond, just south of Georgetown.  To convert all appliances to 60 Hz from the British system of 50 Hz.  At completion, the sugar plantations could sell excess power to the Electricity Corporationt and buy in times of need.  The power supply would come from the old Kingston Plant, 6 Diesel/generators in New Amsterdam and a station to be built at Diamond.  Enough power to encourage industry along the Transmission Line route which in turn would allow people to live and work in their communities.
                           
                          Georgetown would not be as congested as it presently is.  Young girls would not have to leave their communities for Georgetown where they would have to prostitute themselves in order to eat and/or find a place to live. 
                           
                          Guyana would need to invite immigrants from West Indian countries as labour was needed to met the growing country.  The immigrants would have to come from the WI because the culture was similar and we could all live in harmony. 
                           
                          I don't feel like continuing what might have been if the oil embargo of 1974 didn't come along.  But it is sufficient to say that the oil embargo did irreparable damage to Guyana.  I am not planning on writing a book on that or even an article.  Sancho is a Good researcher.  I leave it to him.
                           
                          I have one bit of advice for Sancho.  Do not study history without studying the economics of the country of the period you are studying.  Much of the history you write about is meaningless to me because it dos not convey any supporting evidence.  A typical example is the American fight for independence from England.  Why did they fight?  What caused it?
                           
                          You also gave Dr. Eric Williams a bit of a rough time without even reading his works.  I would suggest that you grow up before trying to express yourself to an experienced audience.
                           
                          Finally, anyone with such vision as LFSB would win "Man of the Century" every century.

                          Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                          Even you will recognise and concede the Most Honourable Dr. Eric Williams was by far a better human being than your brother Forbes was.  The fat boy assassinated the brilliant and extraordinarily talented African teacher and philosopher, Dr, Walter Rodney.  Burnham did not stop there but threatened the welfare of Fred Wills.  I understand, among others, GDF soldiers; my brother’s life was in danger.
                           
                           Well let me enlighten you.  Sancho had stood by Forbes in the early going.  Bertrand Abrams, T. Anson Sancho, Uncle Oswald Sancho later U. Leebert Sancho - and his father Charlie Sancho in Bachelor's Adventure, were all Burnhamities.  Another Sancho, Emerson Samuel, painted his portrait.  Burnham was at varying times surrounded by my loved ones.  There may have been other Sanchos in Burnham’s corner, such as Harold Lutchman, and Joycellyne Loncke.  Research is continuing.
                           
                          I believe my parents were too, were Burnhamities.  They will not admit it.  By 1968, they distanced themselves from the PNC.  I often heard my father saying had he waited for Haynes and or Wills –instead of take a poor substitute, Burnham he would not have suffered defeat in the Courtroom.  Besides, he was fortunate to have Haynes and Wills to come to his rescue.  So do not think of selling me that Burnham was the greatest lawyer of the Caribbean.

                          Burnham then showed Sancho his colours; Burnham them gave Sancho his but to kiss – when they refused they begun abandoning Guyana – for alien lands – some swearing never to return even to rest in peace with the ancestors.
                          Personally, cancelling my mother's pension after a 45-year career as a primary Schoolteacher April 1928 - September 1972.
                          Stealing the Shareholders's land at Golden Grove where he Burnham built a memorial to himself.
                          My mother, her sister, and relatives lost their land in the Burnham madness.
                           
                          Castro gave his family’s land to the Cuban people – Burnham stole from the shareholders of Golden Grove and Nabaclis.
                           
                          There you have Burnham used then abused Sanchos.  However, it is the generations of Golden Grove and Nabaclis folks who lain down.  They simply refused to stand up with the female Sanchos.  The females were trying to prevent the peoples land including their own from being used for Burnham's whims.  I am most angry at the folks, who let Burnham do as he please in Golden Grove and Nabaclis. I am angry at those of my community who attacked Indians and their property. In fact, it is accurate to note that I still hate their actions - and or non movement as the case - such as the land grabbing scheme.
                           
                           Golden Grove and Nabaclis folks let Sancho down, again.  The only period they did not let Sancho down was between 1848 and 1884.  Those old timers stood with Bentick Sancho.  That is the Golden Grove I am most proud thereof.  I pray that stout leaders will again rise out of that chaos my beloved adopted ancestral home now finds itself due chiefly to the fact they bowed down to Forbes.  They turned their back on the dreams of the forty-eight shareholders.
                          When I left the East Coast, it was in a horrible state.  There were daily dosages of power and water shortages – to go with fuel and food shortages.  You would have money and nothing to buy.  I had to tilt the soil to ensure a ready supply of green leafy vegetables were readily available for home consumption.  Now it is worst.  Then police Sharma and his crew were killing people.  Now the petty criminals have armed themselves the cowardly forces are scaring the nation with their gun and ammunition.  It is death and destruction everywhere.  Retards crying for and defending their Burnham.  Had someone belled that fat cat before January 1977?  I would still be at in the tropics.

                          roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                          Thank God where would he find time to write when he had a country to run?
                          Roger

                          Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                          A number of his speeches was printed and titled a Destiny to Mould. However, the Schomburg Center for Black Studies have in it collection a number of his utterances. It is not accepted that Forbes wrote anything at all. again What is known to be preserved, are speeches.
                          The Schomburg center offers a wide collection of material written  on Guyana by both Guyanese and foreigners.
                          Recently, it was my greatest pleasure to read Leo's Poetry in the center...Leo Martin was the foremost poet in the history of Guyana, if not the Americas. I sent an email to Mr. Howard Dodson recommending that the Schomburg Center acquire guyanese biographical books - primarily who is who in British Guiana the first three editions and the history of British Guiana Teachers' Association..

                          roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                          Its not about what books he wrote, though one that comes to mind is a 'Destiny to Mould', but the impact that he made on the Caribbean and Guyana. It is obvious that the voters thought so
                           
                          Roger

                          Carol Williams <cviva2001@...> wrote:
                          Can you inform on the literature on Burnham? Did he write any books, are his speeches available?

                          roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                          No matter how you twist and turn Sancho Burnham was the best person that ever happened for Guyana and the Caribbean. Not only did Guyanese voted for Burnham as Caribbean man of the Century but the majority of the Caribbean did as well. Don't let your hatred for the the man, for no apparent reason might I add, cloud your man. He was great for the Caribbean and Guyana.
                          Roger Moore

                          Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                          I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985”,
                          I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task – like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle – adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                          I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
                          Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                          What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                          An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
                           
                           
                          I managed to read the following;
                           
                          I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                           
                           
                          President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.”
                          New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes – and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                           
                          In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                           


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                        • Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                          Hello Sancho If Burnham is Caribbean man of the Century then Asian man of the Century must be Pol Pot, African man of the Century Idi Amin and European man of
                          Message 12 of 26 , Mar 2, 2006
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                            Hello Sancho
                             
                            If Burnham is Caribbean man of the Century then Asian man of the Century must be Pol Pot, African man of the Century Idi Amin and European man of the Century Adolf Hitler !
                             
                            Burnham was the Devil's Disciple, what he was responsible for at Mackenzie can never be forgotten !
                             
                            Regards
                             
                            Jon

                            Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                            I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985?
                            I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task ?like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle ?adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                            I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
                            Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                            What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                            An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                             
                             
                            I managed to read the following;
                             
                            I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                             
                             
                            President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                            New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes ?and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                             
                            In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                             


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                            Hello Sancho Burnham was known to send out Voting forms to People of African origin across the Caribbean and the World whether they were Guyanese or not while
                            Message 13 of 26 , Mar 2, 2006
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                              Hello Sancho
                               
                              Burnham was known to send out Voting forms to People of African origin across the Caribbean and the World whether they were Guyanese or not while Indo-Guyanese and others were denied theirs.
                               
                              A Friend of my Father who is Afro-Jamaican received a voting form for the Guyana Elections and voted for Burnham even though he has no Guyanese connections !
                               
                              Burnham also opened Guyana's doors for Immigration but only allowed in People of African origin in a attempt to re-address the Racial balance in Guyana as most of the Guyanese who were leaving were Indian.
                               
                              Apart from events such as the Mackenzie Massacre in 1962 he also terrorised many with his Secret Police (House of Israel) and saw away with any oppostion such as Dr Walter Rodney.
                               
                              He was Guyana's Saddam Hussain !
                               
                              Such a Tyrant should never even have been on the shortlist for Caribbean man of the Century, there are plenty of decent People of all origins who are more qualified to be on the shortlist.
                               
                              Many People have contributed to the Caribbean in many fields and should be commended for those achievements, Forbes Burnham did not contribute anything to Caribbean Society unless you want to include Genocide !
                               
                              Regards
                               
                              Jon
                               


                              Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                              Roger
                              What are you mumbling about?  No way upon earth would Blacks of Jamaica vote a non Jamaican over Garvey, Tosh, Marley, Bunny Wailer - not even Walter Rodney nor Eric Williams . am I to believe Dominicas, Haitians, Jamaicans, Trinidadians, Bajan, Grenadians and the remainder of the Caribbean voted for  Burnham..Well what kind of fool you take Sancho for...you can fool some people some time but you can't fool all the people all the time..Roger you crossed the line of no return - you and the writer of that paragraph totally disrespect not only Guyanese but the entire Caribbean region...What are you ? Are you stoned? There are folks of the caribbean who do not recall his name but the know of Garvey and Marley -You make no sense at all...No Rasta man would vote for Burnham...they aren't that crazy...
                               
                              My Caribbean Man of the Century would be one of these Garvey, Blyden, Marley, Malcolm X, Roger B. Moore, Schomburg, Rodney, Eric Williams, Eugene Felix Michael Hercules, J. Robert Love, Slyvester Williams, C. L. R. James, Gary Sobers, Padmore - all are heroes of the masses   of Black people and none is clouded with inhumanity to man. perhaps you never heard of them...narrow minds can justify anybody and or thing...but the upfull
                               
                              You are off your rocker...such a poll would have to be more rigged than any elections I have ever heard..Not even the Marcos could rigg like that why are you taking Sancho for an idiot...the only Guyanese who ought to be considered for such honours are Rodney, Van Sertima, Jan Carew, George G M James, Kanhai and Ramphal.

                              roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                              No matter how you twist and turn Sancho Burnham was the best person that ever happened for Guyana and the Caribbean. Not only did Guyanese voted for Burnham as Caribbean man of the Century but the majority of the Caribbean did as well. Don't let your hatred for the the man, for no apparent reason might I add, cloud your man. He was great for the Caribbean and Guyana.
                              Roger Moore

                              Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                              I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985?
                              I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task ?like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle ?adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                              I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
                              Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                              What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                              An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                               
                               
                              I managed to read the following;
                               
                              I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                               
                               
                              President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                              New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes ?and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                               
                              In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                               


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                            • Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                              Hello Neville Georgetown has always been looked after well and also the East Coast but other areas of the Country such as Berbice were left in the dark ages.
                              Message 14 of 26 , Mar 2, 2006
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                                Hello Neville
                                 
                                Georgetown has always been looked after well and also the East Coast but other areas of the Country such as Berbice were left in the dark ages.
                                 
                                Electricity and Phone lines have only just been ran through the Corentyne in the last couple of years !
                                 
                                I have been to Guyana a number of times and stayed with Relatives and they have to rely on Generators for Electricity and there are shortages in water and other amenities.
                                 
                                Much of Berbice had resembled the County in the 19th Century, it is only in the last few years that modernization has set in with Government spending on a long forgotten and abandoned area.
                                 
                                Similiar Programmes are now in place in Essequibo in the Interior as well as the Coast.
                                 
                                I have been to Georgetown a few times and it is still pretty neat with nice Buildings which has been added to in recent years although now it is pretty dangerous, more than it used to be.
                                 
                                Visitors to Guyana now lock themselves in their Hotel rooms for protection as the Country is completely lawless, woe to the Elections and next years Cricket World Cup !
                                 
                                Basically Georgetown triumphed as did Linden over other areas as they were void of investment and abandoned from technological advancement.
                                 
                                The AWI was all down to Taxes, the Colonists refused to pay more Taxes to Britain and erupted when forced to pay a Tax on Tea, they then decided they could run their own affairs and opted for Independence.
                                 
                                There are always two sides to every discussion and both sides should always be looked into as we can't dismiss one side without examining the other.
                                 
                                Burnham may have done some great things for Guyana but he is also forever tainted for the bad things he done.
                                 
                                Regards
                                 
                                Jon

                                Neville Quelch <nunicorng@...> wrote:
                                Now we are really heating up without an end in sight.  Was Burnham as great as the Caribbean believed?  Is Sancho the racist Black history student right in disrespecting Burnham?  And where does one Anthony Persaud fit into this fight between two brothas?
                                 
                                O Laud! Oh Laud!
                                 
                                I saw "Feed House and Clothe Ourselves by 1976" in action when I spent 6 months in Guyana back in 1972..
                                  There were housing developments going up every where.  Food was being dumped in the Demerara River at the end of the day and the stores were filled with clothes.  1976 was approaching with the country having reached the goal with years to spare.  I don't believe that Sancho was born and haven't a clue of what such prosperity was. 
                                 
                                That was the year the Guyana hosted the Non-Aligned countries and Carifesta.  No shortages of Hotels or places to stay.  No shortages of food.  It was like being in a tropical paradise.
                                 
                                Why Was I in Guyana in 1972?  I had gone back to work on the Electrification program that was to string a 67 KV Transmission Line from Canje in Berbice to Diamond, just south of Georgetown.  To convert all appliances to 60 Hz from the British system of 50 Hz.  At completion, the sugar plantations could sell excess power to the Electricity Corporationt and buy in times of need.  The power supply would come from the old Kingston Plant, 6 Diesel/generators in New Amsterdam and a station to be built at Diamond.  Enough power to encourage industry along the Transmission Line route which in turn would allow people to live and work in their communities.
                                 
                                Georgetown would not be as congested as it presently is.  Young girls would not have to leave their communities for Georgetown where they would have to prostitute themselves in order to eat and/or find a place to live. 
                                 
                                Guyana would need to invite immigrants from West Indian countries as labour was needed to met the growing country.  The immigrants would have to come from the WI because the culture was similar and we could all live in harmony. 
                                 
                                I don't feel like continuing what might have been if the oil embargo of 1974 didn't come along.  But it is sufficient to say that the oil embargo did irreparable damage to Guyana.  I am not planning on writing a book on that or even an article.  Sancho is a Good researcher.  I leave it to him.
                                 
                                I have one bit of advice for Sancho.  Do not study history without studying the economics of the country of the period you are studying.  Much of the history you write about is meaningless to me because it dos not convey any supporting evidence.  A typical example is the American fight for independence from England.  Why did they fight?  What caused it?
                                 
                                You also gave Dr. Eric Williams a bit of a rough time without even reading his works.  I would suggest that you grow up before trying to express yourself to an experienced audience.
                                 
                                Finally, anyone with such vision as LFSB would win "Man of the Century" every century.

                                Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                Even you will recognise and concede the Most Honourable Dr. Eric Williams was by far a better human being than your brother Forbes was.  The fat boy assassinated the brilliant and extraordinarily talented African teacher and philosopher, Dr, Walter Rodney.  Burnham did not stop there but threatened the welfare of Fred Wills.  I understand, among others, GDF soldiers; my brother’s life was in danger.
                                 
                                 Well let me enlighten you.  Sancho had stood by Forbes in the early going.  Bertrand Abrams, T. Anson Sancho, Uncle Oswald Sancho later U. Leebert Sancho - and his father Charlie Sancho in Bachelor's Adventure, were all Burnhamities.  Another Sancho, Emerson Samuel, painted his portrait.  Burnham was at varying times surrounded by my loved ones.  There may have been other Sanchos in Burnham’s corner, such as Harold Lutchman, and Joycellyne Loncke.  Research is continuing.
                                 
                                I believe my parents were too, were Burnhamities.  They will not admit it.  By 1968, they distanced themselves from the PNC.  I often heard my father saying had he waited for Haynes and or Wills –instead of take a poor substitute, Burnham he would not have suffered defeat in the Courtroom.  Besides, he was fortunate to have Haynes and Wills to come to his rescue.  So do not think of selling me that Burnham was the greatest lawyer of the Caribbean.

                                Burnham then showed Sancho his colours; Burnham them gave Sancho his but to kiss ?when they refused they begun abandoning Guyana ?for alien lands ?some swearing never to return even to rest in peace with the ancestors.
                                Personally, cancelling my mother's pension after a 45-year career as a primary Schoolteacher April 1928 - September 1972.
                                Stealing the Shareholders's land at Golden Grove where he Burnham built a memorial to himself.
                                My mother, her sister, and relatives lost their land in the Burnham madness.
                                 
                                Castro gave his family’s land to the Cuban people ?Burnham stole from the shareholders of Golden Grove and Nabaclis.
                                 
                                There you have Burnham used then abused Sanchos.  However, it is the generations of Golden Grove and Nabaclis folks who lain down.  They simply refused to stand up with the female Sanchos.  The females were trying to prevent the peoples land including their own from being used for Burnham's whims.  I am most angry at the folks, who let Burnham do as he please in Golden Grove and Nabaclis. I am angry at those of my community who attacked Indians and their property. In fact, it is accurate to note that I still hate their actions - and or non movement as the case - such as the land grabbing scheme.
                                 
                                 Golden Grove and Nabaclis folks let Sancho down, again.  The only period they did not let Sancho down was between 1848 and 1884.  Those old timers stood with Bentick Sancho.  That is the Golden Grove I am most proud thereof.  I pray that stout leaders will again rise out of that chaos my beloved adopted ancestral home now finds itself due chiefly to the fact they bowed down to Forbes.  They turned their back on the dreams of the forty-eight shareholders.
                                When I left the East Coast, it was in a horrible state.  There were daily dosages of power and water shortages ?to go with fuel and food shortages.  You would have money and nothing to buy.  I had to tilt the soil to ensure a ready supply of green leafy vegetables were readily available for home consumption.  Now it is worst.  Then police Sharma and his crew were killing people.  Now the petty criminals have armed themselves the cowardly forces are scaring the nation with their gun and ammunition.  It is death and destruction everywhere.  Retards crying for and defending their Burnham.  Had someone belled that fat cat before January 1977?  I would still be at in the tropics.

                                roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                Thank God where would he find time to write when he had a country to run?
                                Roger

                                Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                A number of his speeches was printed and titled a Destiny to Mould. However, the Schomburg Center for Black Studies have in it collection a number of his utterances. It is not accepted that Forbes wrote anything at all. again What is known to be preserved, are speeches.
                                The Schomburg center offers a wide collection of material written  on Guyana by both Guyanese and foreigners.
                                Recently, it was my greatest pleasure to read Leo's Poetry in the center...Leo Martin was the foremost poet in the history of Guyana, if not the Americas. I sent an email to Mr. Howard Dodson recommending that the Schomburg Center acquire guyanese biographical books - primarily who is who in British Guiana the first three editions and the history of British Guiana Teachers' Association..

                                roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                Its not about what books he wrote, though one that comes to mind is a 'Destiny to Mould', but the impact that he made on the Caribbean and Guyana. It is obvious that the voters thought so
                                 
                                Roger

                                Carol Williams <cviva2001@...> wrote:
                                Can you inform on the literature on Burnham? Did he write any books, are his speeches available?

                                roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                No matter how you twist and turn Sancho Burnham was the best person that ever happened for Guyana and the Caribbean. Not only did Guyanese voted for Burnham as Caribbean man of the Century but the majority of the Caribbean did as well. Don't let your hatred for the the man, for no apparent reason might I add, cloud your man. He was great for the Caribbean and Guyana.
                                Roger Moore

                                Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985?
                                I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task ?like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle ?adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                                I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
                                Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                                What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                                An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                 
                                 
                                I managed to read the following;
                                 
                                I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                                 
                                 
                                President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes ?and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                                 
                                In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                                 


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                              • roger moore
                                First of all the Waddle Commission said that 3 people died in Wisma. Is that a massacre? I hardly think so; and that was after he murder of 46 persons on the
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                                  First of all the Waddle Commission said that 3 people died in Wisma. Is that a massacre? I hardly think so; and that was after he murder of 46 persons on the MV Carr.Dam Hypocrites. The Jagans and Jagdeo are the ones like Pol Pot, with the crime wave that they allowed to their benifit to occur; not Burnham.

                                  "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:
                                  Hello Sancho
                                   
                                  If Burnham is Caribbean man of the Century then Asian man of the Century must be Pol Pot, African man of the Century Idi Amin and European man of the Century Adolf Hitler !
                                   
                                  Burnham was the Devil's Disciple, what he was responsible for at Mackenzie can never be forgotten !
                                   
                                  Regards
                                   
                                  Jon

                                  Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                  I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985?
                                  I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task ?like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle ?adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                                  I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
                                  Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                                  What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                                  An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                   
                                   
                                  I managed to read the following;
                                   
                                  I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                                   
                                   
                                  President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                  New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes ?and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                                   
                                  In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                                   


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                                • Sancho of Nabaclis
                                  There is Moore of Victoria, and of Ann s Grove. Ralph Moore and Vincent Moore - outstanding Guianese, in the field of Community Development. Vincent Emanuel
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                                    There is Moore of Victoria, and of Ann's Grove.  Ralph Moore and Vincent Moore - outstanding Guianese, in the field of Community Development.  Vincent Emanuel Moore married my great aunt Winifred Sancho and they resided in Ann's Grove.  Vincent Moore's brother was a schoolmaster at one of the Schools in Skeldon.  I think it is Skeldon Scots school.  my cousin attended the Scots school.  Therefore I think that the school.  I will have to look it up.
                                    I am praying that Roger Moore is neither a relative of either of those two Moore kinships nor that of the great Barbadian scholar Roger B. Moore.  I would be greatly disappointed.  How could such exemplary kinships reproduce such a reprehensible character is beyond my realm of thought process.  It simply cannot be.  Lord have mercy!  I am likely to find a bloodline connection between Burnham and Roger Moore - aren't I?  Well!  that would explain his behavior.  Roger Moore like his mentor, have no faith in democratic and egalitarian societies.
                                    I cannot help myself please forgive I have to take another swing at Moore and his daddy, Burnham.  I put down the Burnham book written by an Indian of the Guyanese experience.  I realize not even beneficiaries cannot pour more than enough perfume over that caucus.  It is simply too putrid.  Burnham stinks anyway you look at him.  Even his best characteristic are suspect because they were used against the working class peoples of Guyana.  I had to pick the Thomas Paine book Rights of Man – to really ask myself what eyes are Roger Moore look at Burnham with over the last 57 years.  It must be bedroom eyes.  Not a rational mind at all. Roger if you are related to those Moore and or Stanley Moore – please don’t enlighten me. You can have Colin Moore. It would be too much for my poor blackheart. Such a shock would rid you of me – it certainly will…


                                    roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                    First of all the Waddle Commission said that 3 people died in Wisma. Is that a massacre? I hardly think so; and that was after he murder of 46 persons on the MV Carr.Dam Hypocrites. The Jagans and Jagdeo are the ones like Pol Pot, with the crime wave that they allowed to their benifit to occur; not Burnham.

                                    "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:
                                    Hello Sancho
                                     
                                    If Burnham is Caribbean man of the Century then Asian man of the Century must be Pol Pot, African man of the Century Idi Amin and European man of the Century Adolf Hitler !
                                     
                                    Burnham was the Devil's Disciple, what he was responsible for at Mackenzie can never be forgotten !
                                     
                                    Regards
                                     
                                    Jon

                                    Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                    I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985?
                                    I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task ?like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle ?adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                                    I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
                                    Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                                    What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                                    An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                     
                                     
                                    I managed to read the following;
                                     
                                    I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                                     
                                     
                                    President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                    New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes ?and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                                     
                                    In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                                     


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                                  • Neville Quelch
                                    Hello Jon: There are two things I should have highlighted in my last correspondence. One is that I particularly mentioned that I was in Guyans for the
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                                      Hello Jon:
                                       
                                      There are two things I should have highlighted in my last correspondence.  One is that I particularly mentioned that I was in Guyans for the Electrification Project in 1972.  Obviously, I met with Forbes at a function held by the Electricity Corporation.  I also met with him in the 1960s in Montreal.  If he remembered me from any of those occasions, he certainly did not let on and I certainly did not care if he did or not.  My contention is that he was certainly trying in 1972.  I had to leave as a result of the slowness in receiving the funding for the project.  I was really needed in Montreal to clean-up a mess left on another project in Nova Scotia.
                                       
                                      Had the funding, which had been previously approved, come through Guyana would have been a different country today.  As far as his being a monster, I had no knowledge as my work took me from one province to another and I lost all contact with Guyana.  Neither family nor friends could find me at times much less to discuss the affairs of Guyana. 
                                       
                                      The second thing that should have been highlighted is the 1974 oil embargo but as I stated, I don't want to go into that because it requires explaining the macro economics of the era and the impact that the oil embargo had on world economies.  I am quite sure you must know that it led to extremely high interest rates and finally the 1981/82 recession.  Did the lack of funding for the Electrification program change Burnham?  I don't know, I was too busy in a small town in Quebec before going to Alberta.  We also did not have the Internet with its speedy communications.
                                       
                                      I lived still in Guyana in 1962 and can assure you that there was no massacre in any part of Guyana.  The government at the time was Chedi's PPP.  Also when we had the 6-month general strike in 1963 it was still Cheddi's PPP in office.  However, In 1968 while in Montreal I learnt of major civil disorder that occurred in 1966 and/or 1965 during which one of my brothers-in-law lost a sister in a ferry explosion on the Demerara River.  At the time, I was in Ottawa and getting ready to go to Winnipeg.
                                       
                                      As stated in my previous communication, the program to "Feed, House and Clothe Ourselves by 1976"  is probably the best program for a developing nation.  It could only be realized through self-reliance.  And, there was abundance.  This is where I become a hideous fiend.  Any atrocious actions taken by the governing body to achieve such a great result can only be considered to be (and I use an Americanism) collateral damage.
                                       
                                      I have just opened the door to abuse.  However, consider what is happening in under developed countries around the world.  You mentioned a few names from the same era.  Can you see the relationships?  Even in Canada we had a separatist group from Quebec that wanted to separate Quebec from Canada by means of force and actually murdered a cabinet minister and held the British High Commissioner captive in 1970.
                                       
                                      Open economy economics as practised in developed countries led to discontent around the world, France, USA, Cuba, Venezuela, etc.  Closed economy economics or Communism was growing.  Russia had invaded several countries and was looking at coming further west.  In other words, the whole world was in a turmoil.  Out of this came the likes of Burnham and Jagan and the others you know in Guyana,  Jamaica had Bustamante and only T&T had sobriety under Eric Williams.
                                       
                                      Back in Montreal, Rosie Douglas was leading a group of students in the destruction of a university's computer (an act for which he was asked to leave the country but given an opportunity to finish his degree).
                                       
                                      The era was full of of unfavourable events not only in Guyana but also world wide.  Africa is still undergoing change but now has to contend with unfavourable trade practises by the developed countries.  Besides civil wars, there is the HIV/Aids epidemic which is also claiming large amount of Guyanese victims.
                                       
                                      The PPP has been in office since 1992 and the country has not progressed.  Last year the GDP/per capita rose only one half of one percent.  As far back as 1965 Guyana and T&T had the same GDP/per capita.  Today, T&T GDP/per capita is there times that of Guyana - a country with vast natural resources   The gold is nearly depleted at a time when gold prices are close to $575/oz.  Instead of building a major transmission line and providing the country with a reliable source of electricity that would encourage investment and industry which in turn would create jobs and reduce crime, the government is building a stadium to host a few games of a cricket tournament.  The money for which will never repay the expenses - even if the people came.  And the people will not come as a result of the crime. 
                                       
                                      What would you do if you were starving and saw a tourist?
                                       
                                      Was Burnham Caribbean Man of the Century?  None of the candidates that has been put forward can fill the shoes of the position.  Where does Malcolm X come in?  Is he an Honourable West Indian?  And what did he do for the West Indies?  He did more for Canada and maybe the other developed countries governed by White people.
                                       
                                      In the American civil war there was collateral damage.  In the French Civil war there was collateral damage.  In Venezuela, Cuba, countries in Central America, Africa and Asia there was collateral damage.  Shouldn't there have been collateral damage in Guyana?  I don't remember which of the revolutionary leaders said "Unless a country has a civil war it cannot become stable."
                                       
                                      Guyana differs from most countries because it has two dominant races.  For Guyana  to become stable then it must suffer two civil wars.  The second appears to be imminent.
                                       
                                      Like Sancho, I strayed from the original point even though I came back on a few occasions.  Was Burnham Caribbean Man of The Century?  After considering the era and events I vote yes.
                                       
                                      Neville

                                      "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:
                                      Hello Neville
                                       
                                      Georgetown has always been looked after well and also the East Coast but other areas of the Country such as Berbice were left in the dark ages.
                                       
                                      Electricity and Phone lines have only just been ran through the Corentyne in the last couple of years !
                                       
                                      I have been to Guyana a number of times and stayed with Relatives and they have to rely on Generators for Electricity and there are shortages in water and other amenities.
                                       
                                      Much of Berbice had resembled the County in the 19th Century, it is only in the last few years that modernization has set in with Government spending on a long forgotten and abandoned area.
                                       
                                      Similiar Programmes are now in place in Essequibo in the Interior as well as the Coast.
                                       
                                      I have been to Georgetown a few times and it is still pretty neat with nice Buildings which has been added to in recent years although now it is pretty dangerous, more than it used to be.
                                       
                                      Visitors to Guyana now lock themselves in their Hotel rooms for protection as the Country is completely lawless, woe to the Elections and next years Cricket World Cup !
                                       
                                      Basically Georgetown triumphed as did Linden over other areas as they were void of investment and abandoned from technological advancement.
                                       
                                      The AWI was all down to Taxes, the Colonists refused to pay more Taxes to Britain and erupted when forced to pay a Tax on Tea, they then decided they could run their own affairs and opted for Independence.
                                       
                                      There are always two sides to every discussion and both sides should always be looked into as we can't dismiss one side without examining the other.
                                       
                                      Burnham may have done some great things for Guyana but he is also forever tainted for the bad things he done.
                                       
                                      Regards
                                       
                                      Jon

                                      Neville Quelch <nunicorng@...> wrote:
                                      Now we are really heating up without an end in sight.  Was Burnham as great as the Caribbean believed?  Is Sancho the racist Black history student right in disrespecting Burnham?  And where does one Anthony Persaud fit into this fight between two brothas?
                                       
                                      O Laud! Oh Laud!
                                       
                                      I saw "Feed House and Clothe Ourselves by 1976" in action when I spent 6 months in Guyana back in 1972..
                                        There were housing developments going up every where.  Food was being dumped in the Demerara River at the end of the day and the stores were filled with clothes.  1976 was approaching with the country having reached the goal with years to spare.  I don't believe that Sancho was born and haven't a clue of what such prosperity was. 
                                       
                                      That was the year the Guyana hosted the Non-Aligned countries and Carifesta.  No shortages of Hotels or places to stay.  No shortages of food.  It was like being in a tropical paradise.
                                       
                                      Why Was I in Guyana in 1972?  I had gone back to work on the Electrification program that was to string a 67 KV Transmission Line from Canje in Berbice to Diamond, just south of Georgetown.  To convert all appliances to 60 Hz from the British system of 50 Hz.  At completion, the sugar plantations could sell excess power to the Electricity Corporationt and buy in times of need.  The power supply would come from the old Kingston Plant, 6 Diesel/generators in New Amsterdam and a station to be built at Diamond.  Enough power to encourage industry along the Transmission Line route which in turn would allow people to live and work in their communities.
                                       
                                      Georgetown would not be as congested as it presently is.  Young girls would not have to leave their communities for Georgetown where they would have to prostitute themselves in order to eat and/or find a place to live. 
                                       
                                      Guyana would need to invite immigrants from West Indian countries as labour was needed to met the growing country.  The immigrants would have to come from the WI because the culture was similar and we could all live in harmony. 
                                       
                                      I don't feel like continuing what might have been if the oil embargo of 1974 didn't come along.  But it is sufficient to say that the oil embargo did irreparable damage to Guyana.  I am not planning on writing a book on that or even an article.  Sancho is a Good researcher.  I leave it to him.
                                       
                                      I have one bit of advice for Sancho.  Do not study history without studying the economics of the country of the period you are studying.  Much of the history you write about is meaningless to me because it dos not convey any supporting evidence.  A typical example is the American fight for independence from England.  Why did they fight?  What caused it?
                                       
                                      You also gave Dr. Eric Williams a bit of a rough time without even reading his works.  I would suggest that you grow up before trying to express yourself to an experienced audience.
                                       
                                      Finally, anyone with such vision as LFSB would win "Man of the Century" every century.

                                      Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                      Even you will recognise and concede the Most Honourable Dr. Eric Williams was by far a better human being than your brother Forbes was.  The fat boy assassinated the brilliant and extraordinarily talented African teacher and philosopher, Dr, Walter Rodney.  Burnham did not stop there but threatened the welfare of Fred Wills.  I understand, among others, GDF soldiers; my brother’s life was in danger.
                                       
                                       Well let me enlighten you.  Sancho had stood by Forbes in the early going.  Bertrand Abrams, T. Anson Sancho, Uncle Oswald Sancho later U. Leebert Sancho - and his father Charlie Sancho in Bachelor's Adventure, were all Burnhamities.  Another Sancho, Emerson Samuel, painted his portrait.  Burnham was at varying times surrounded by my loved ones.  There may have been other Sanchos in Burnham’s corner, such as Harold Lutchman, and Joycellyne Loncke.  Research is continuing.
                                       
                                      I believe my parents were too, were Burnhamities.  They will not admit it.  By 1968, they distanced themselves from the PNC.  I often heard my father saying had he waited for Haynes and or Wills –instead of take a poor substitute, Burnham he would not have suffered defeat in the Courtroom.  Besides, he was fortunate to have Haynes and Wills to come to his rescue.  So do not think of selling me that Burnham was the greatest lawyer of the Caribbean.

                                      Burnham then showed Sancho his colours; Burnham them gave Sancho his but to kiss ?when they refused they begun abandoning Guyana ?for alien lands ?some swearing never to return even to rest in peace with the ancestors.
                                      Personally, cancelling my mother's pension after a 45-year career as a primary Schoolteacher April 1928 - September 1972.
                                      Stealing the Shareholders's land at Golden Grove where he Burnham built a memorial to himself.
                                      My mother, her sister, and relatives lost their land in the Burnham madness.
                                       
                                      Castro gave his family’s land to the Cuban people ?Burnham stole from the shareholders of Golden Grove and Nabaclis.
                                       
                                      There you have Burnham used then abused Sanchos.  However, it is the generations of Golden Grove and Nabaclis folks who lain down.  They simply refused to stand up with the female Sanchos.  The females were trying to prevent the peoples land including their own from being used for Burnham's whims.  I am most angry at the folks, who let Burnham do as he please in Golden Grove and Nabaclis. I am angry at those of my community who attacked Indians and their property. In fact, it is accurate to note that I still hate their actions - and or non movement as the case - such as the land grabbing scheme.
                                       
                                       Golden Grove and Nabaclis folks let Sancho down, again.  The only period they did not let Sancho down was between 1848 and 1884.  Those old timers stood with Bentick Sancho.  That is the Golden Grove I am most proud thereof.  I pray that stout leaders will again rise out of that chaos my beloved adopted ancestral home now finds itself due chiefly to the fact they bowed down to Forbes.  They turned their back on the dreams of the forty-eight shareholders.
                                      When I left the East Coast, it was in a horrible state.  There were daily dosages of power and water shortages ?to go with fuel and food shortages.  You would have money and nothing to buy.  I had to tilt the soil to ensure a ready supply of green leafy vegetables were readily available for home consumption.  Now it is worst.  Then police Sharma and his crew were killing people.  Now the petty criminals have armed themselves the cowardly forces are scaring the nation with their gun and ammunition.  It is death and destruction everywhere.  Retards crying for and defending their Burnham.  Had someone belled that fat cat before January 1977?  I would still be at in the tropics.

                                      roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                      Thank God where would he find time to write when he had a country to run?
                                      Roger

                                      Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                      A number of his speeches was printed and titled a Destiny to Mould. However, the Schomburg Center for Black Studies have in it collection a number of his utterances. It is not accepted that Forbes wrote anything at all. again What is known to be preserved, are speeches.
                                      The Schomburg center offers a wide collection of material written  on Guyana by both Guyanese and foreigners.
                                      Recently, it was my greatest pleasure to read Leo's Poetry in the center...Leo Martin was the foremost poet in the history of Guyana, if not the Americas. I sent an email to Mr. Howard Dodson recommending that the Schomburg Center acquire guyanese biographical books - primarily who is who in British Guiana the first three editions and the history of British Guiana Teachers' Association..

                                      roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                      Its not about what books he wrote, though one that comes to mind is a 'Destiny to Mould', but the impact that he made on the Caribbean and Guyana. It is obvious that the voters thought so
                                       
                                      Roger

                                      Carol Williams <cviva2001@...> wrote:
                                      Can you inform on the literature on Burnham? Did he write any books, are his speeches available?

                                      roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                      No matter how you twist and turn Sancho Burnham was the best person that ever happened for Guyana and the Caribbean. Not only did Guyanese voted for Burnham as Caribbean man of the Century but the majority of the Caribbean did as well. Don't let your hatred for the the man, for no apparent reason might I add, cloud your man. He was great for the Caribbean and Guyana.
                                      Roger Moore

                                      Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                      I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985?
                                      I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task ?like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle ?adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                                      I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
                                      Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                                      What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                                      An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                       
                                       
                                      I managed to read the following;
                                       
                                      I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                                       
                                       
                                      President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                      New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes ?and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                                       
                                      In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                                       


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                                    • roger moore
                                      For your information, I was born in England but went to Guyana when I was 14 along with my brother and sisters. My Father was born in Zeelught Essequibo and my
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                                        For your information, I was born in England but went to Guyana when I was 14 along with my brother and sisters. My Father was born in Zeelught Essequibo and my Ancesters on my Father's side came from Barbados. I can trace my roots on my Mother's side back to the 1820's in Zeelandia Wakenam. And oh Both Colin and Stanley are related to me. Things like you all cannot trace your roots that far back; if you got roots.

                                        Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                        There is Moore of Victoria, and of Ann's Grove.  Ralph Moore and Vincent Moore - outstanding Guianese, in the field of Community Development.  Vincent Emanuel Moore married my great aunt Winifred Sancho and they resided in Ann's Grove.  Vincent Moore's brother was a schoolmaster at one of the Schools in Skeldon.  I think it is Skeldon Scots school.  my cousin attended the Scots school.  Therefore I think that the school.  I will have to look it up.
                                        I am praying that Roger Moore is neither a relative of either of those two Moore kinships nor that of the great Barbadian scholar Roger B. Moore.  I would be greatly disappointed.  How could such exemplary kinships reproduce such a reprehensible character is beyond my realm of thought process.  It simply cannot be.  Lord have mercy!  I am likely to find a bloodline connection between Burnham and Roger Moore - aren't I?  Well!  that would explain his behavior.  Roger Moore like his mentor, have no faith in democratic and egalitarian societies.
                                        I cannot help myself please forgive I have to take another swing at Moore and his daddy, Burnham.  I put down the Burnham book written by an Indian of the Guyanese experience.  I realize not even beneficiaries cannot pour more than enough perfume over that caucus.  It is simply too putrid.  Burnham stinks anyway you look at him.  Even his best characteristic are suspect because they were used against the working class peoples of Guyana.  I had to pick the Thomas Paine book Rights of Man – to really ask myself what eyes are Roger Moore look at Burnham with over the last 57 years.  It must be bedroom eyes.  Not a rational mind at all. Roger if you are related to those Moore and or Stanley Moore – please don’t enlighten me. You can have Colin Moore. It would be too much for my poor blackheart. Such a shock would rid you of me – it certainly will…


                                        roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                        First of all the Waddle Commission said that 3 people died in Wisma. Is that a massacre? I hardly think so; and that was after he murder of 46 persons on the MV Carr.Dam Hypocrites. The Jagans and Jagdeo are the ones like Pol Pot, with the crime wave that they allowed to their benifit to occur; not Burnham.

                                        "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:
                                        Hello Sancho
                                         
                                        If Burnham is Caribbean man of the Century then Asian man of the Century must be Pol Pot, African man of the Century Idi Amin and European man of the Century Adolf Hitler !
                                         
                                        Burnham was the Devil's Disciple, what he was responsible for at Mackenzie can never be forgotten !
                                         
                                        Regards
                                         
                                        Jon

                                        Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                        I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985?
                                        I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task ?like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle ?adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                                        I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
                                        Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                                        What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                                        An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                         
                                         
                                        I managed to read the following;
                                         
                                        I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                                         
                                         
                                        President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                        New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes ?and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                                         
                                        In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                                         


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                                      • Sancho of Nabaclis
                                        Roger - dear old chap - your are beyond - help -- certainly you have heard the name Sancho...Frederick Douglass wrote about Sancho...There s a fellow who was
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                                          Roger - dear old chap - your are beyond - help  -- certainly you have heard the name Sancho...Frederick Douglass wrote about Sancho...There's a fellow who was born on board a slave ship who became the most celebrate African in England in the eighteenth Century...his name Ignatius Sancho 1729 -1780 - that's whom I believe to be one of my ancestors.  I suspect grand father of Bentick Sancho...research is continuing.  I am trying to establish a Sancho family non-profit organization to look into matters concerning Sancho, including DNA, - and researching for roots in particularly Abeokuta and Kumasi.  I see myself as an Egba of the Yoruba people.  Sprinkled with Akan.
                                          I love it when folks can put aside their animosities and chat the social history...I could even learn to accept and have love this Roger Moore.  Who know it is up to you old chap. I believe there is good in every being even those with Bajan heritage named Moore.  The old Guianese adage, God not blind god naah Bajan.
                                          I am not surprised you have not idea who Sancho really are although I have several sites where the information is found.  I suggest you read books and article written by and about Sancho – and then perhaps, you would begin to understand the ground upon which I stand.  Perhaps you will read, “The letters of Ignatius Sancho.”  Then read about Golden Grove and Nabaclis during February 1856 – the Angel Gabriel Riots.  You will encounter the shrewd and stout leadership, Bentick Sancho, provided between Enmore and Belfield, on the East Sea Coast of Demerara.
                                          I do not know when and where Bentick Sancho was born, I believe it is in London.  I do not know when he died, except it was prior to April 17, 1884.  Bentick Sancho’s tomb only reveals that he is resting in peace therein and his wife, Mary is in the same tomb.  Since most Sancho live to about 72 years old and my grandfather is reported as saying he was about 10 years old when his grandfather died, I am looking at the years 1882, and 1883 – for the transition of Bentick Sancho to the Land of Ancestor.  I believe Bentick was born between 1800 and 1810.
                                          Another, point, I believe Brent Sancho of Trinidad is a relative of mine.  I believe he is either descended from James Sancho who married Rebecca in Christ Church Barbados on September 8, 1838 or John Sancho, brother of Bentick Sancho.  Anyhow, Liburd Sancho of St. Vincent is Brent Sancho’s ancestor.  Thus, you maybe able to summarize that Sancho, Bentick, John and Tuckness, entered British Guiana, from Barbados, after the Indians arrived in May 1838, at some point prior to January 5, 1848.
                                          Thus dear old chap I believe Sancho, my representatives were emancipated in 1751.  Thus having been accustomed to freedom even in a European world I resent oppression.  I heard the members of prior generations saying me aah Sancho me nah lave son – Sancho do not stand foolishness.  Sancho stand for what is right and decent. Their comrades would say onto me – boy you aah Sancho act like Sancho , and behave yourself, properly.
                                          If you did not know now you know.


                                          roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                          For your information, I was born in England but went to Guyana when I was 14 along with my brother and sisters. My Father was born in Zeelught Essequibo and my Ancesters on my Father's side came from Barbados. I can trace my roots on my Mother's side back to the 1820's in Zeelandia Wakenam. And oh Both Colin and Stanley are related to me. Things like you all cannot trace your roots that far back; if you got roots.

                                          Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                          There is Moore of Victoria, and of Ann's Grove.  Ralph Moore and Vincent Moore - outstanding Guianese, in the field of Community Development.  Vincent Emanuel Moore married my great aunt Winifred Sancho and they resided in Ann's Grove.  Vincent Moore's brother was a schoolmaster at one of the Schools in Skeldon.  I think it is Skeldon Scots school.  my cousin attended the Scots school.  Therefore I think that the school.  I will have to look it up.
                                          I am praying that Roger Moore is neither a relative of either of those two Moore kinships nor that of the great Barbadian scholar Roger B. Moore.  I would be greatly disappointed.  How could such exemplary kinships reproduce such a reprehensible character is beyond my realm of thought process.  It simply cannot be.  Lord have mercy!  I am likely to find a bloodline connection between Burnham and Roger Moore - aren't I?  Well!  that would explain his behavior.  Roger Moore like his mentor, have no faith in democratic and egalitarian societies.
                                          I cannot help myself please forgive I have to take another swing at Moore and his daddy, Burnham.  I put down the Burnham book written by an Indian of the Guyanese experience.  I realize not even beneficiaries cannot pour more than enough perfume over that caucus.  It is simply too putrid.  Burnham stinks anyway you look at him.  Even his best characteristic are suspect because they were used against the working class peoples of Guyana.  I had to pick the Thomas Paine book Rights of Man – to really ask myself what eyes are Roger Moore look at Burnham with over the last 57 years.  It must be bedroom eyes.  Not a rational mind at all. Roger if you are related to those Moore and or Stanley Moore – please don’t enlighten me. You can have Colin Moore. It would be too much for my poor blackheart. Such a shock would rid you of me – it certainly will…


                                          roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                          First of all the Waddle Commission said that 3 people died in Wisma. Is that a massacre? I hardly think so; and that was after he murder of 46 persons on the MV Carr.Dam Hypocrites. The Jagans and Jagdeo are the ones like Pol Pot, with the crime wave that they allowed to their benifit to occur; not Burnham.

                                          "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:
                                          Hello Sancho
                                           
                                          If Burnham is Caribbean man of the Century then Asian man of the Century must be Pol Pot, African man of the Century Idi Amin and European man of the Century Adolf Hitler !
                                           
                                          Burnham was the Devil's Disciple, what he was responsible for at Mackenzie can never be forgotten !
                                           
                                          Regards
                                           
                                          Jon

                                          Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                          I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985?
                                          I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task ?like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle ?adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                                          I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
                                          Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                                          What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                                          An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                           
                                           
                                          I managed to read the following;
                                           
                                          I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                                           
                                           
                                          President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                          New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes ?and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                                           
                                          In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                                           


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                                          M'lilwana Osanku - Sancho of Nabaclis.
                                          Researching - Sancho, Campbell, Young (Younge), Solomon, Ross & Martin - Families of Guyana.
                                          History of Golden Grove and Nabaclis Village District, East Sea Coast Demerara, Guyana.
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                                          History of Golden Grove and Nabaclis Village District, East Sea Coast Demerara, Guyana.
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                                          History of Golden Grove and Nabaclis Village District, East Sea Coast Demerara, Guyana.
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                                        • roger moore
                                          I don t care to know Roger Sancho of Nabaclis wrote: Roger - dear old chap - your are beyond - help -- certainly you have heard
                                          Message 20 of 26 , Mar 3, 2006
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                                            I don't care to know
                                            Roger

                                            Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                            Roger - dear old chap - your are beyond - help  -- certainly you have heard the name Sancho...Frederick Douglass wrote about Sancho...There's a fellow who was born on board a slave ship who became the most celebrate African in England in the eighteenth Century...his name Ignatius Sancho 1729 -1780 - that's whom I believe to be one of my ancestors.  I suspect grand father of Bentick Sancho...research is continuing.  I am trying to establish a Sancho family non-profit organization to look into matters concerning Sancho, including DNA, - and researching for roots in particularly Abeokuta and Kumasi.  I see myself as an Egba of the Yoruba people.  Sprinkled with Akan.
                                            I love it when folks can put aside their animosities and chat the social history...I could even learn to accept and have love this Roger Moore.  Who know it is up to you old chap. I believe there is good in every being even those with Bajan heritage named Moore.  The old Guianese adage, God not blind god naah Bajan.
                                            I am not surprised you have not idea who Sancho really are although I have several sites where the information is found.  I suggest you read books and article written by and about Sancho – and then perhaps, you would begin to understand the ground upon which I stand.  Perhaps you will read, “The letters of Ignatius Sancho.”  Then read about Golden Grove and Nabaclis during February 1856 – the Angel Gabriel Riots.  You will encounter the shrewd and stout leadership, Bentick Sancho, provided between Enmore and Belfield, on the East Sea Coast of Demerara.
                                            I do not know when and where Bentick Sancho was born, I believe it is in London.  I do not know when he died, except it was prior to April 17, 1884.  Bentick Sancho’s tomb only reveals that he is resting in peace therein and his wife, Mary is in the same tomb.  Since most Sancho live to about 72 years old and my grandfather is reported as saying he was about 10 years old when his grandfather died, I am looking at the years 1882, and 1883 – for the transition of Bentick Sancho to the Land of Ancestor.  I believe Bentick was born between 1800 and 1810.
                                            Another, point, I believe Brent Sancho of Trinidad is a relative of mine.  I believe he is either descended from James Sancho who married Rebecca in Christ Church Barbados on September 8, 1838 or John Sancho, brother of Bentick Sancho.  Anyhow, Liburd Sancho of St. Vincent is Brent Sancho’s ancestor.  Thus, you maybe able to summarize that Sancho, Bentick, John and Tuckness, entered British Guiana, from Barbados, after the Indians arrived in May 1838, at some point prior to January 5, 1848.
                                            Thus dear old chap I believe Sancho, my representatives were emancipated in 1751.  Thus having been accustomed to freedom even in a European world I resent oppression.  I heard the members of prior generations saying me aah Sancho me nah lave son – Sancho do not stand foolishness.  Sancho stand for what is right and decent. Their comrades would say onto me – boy you aah Sancho act like Sancho , and behave yourself, properly.
                                            If you did not know now you know.


                                            roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                            For your information, I was born in England but went to Guyana when I was 14 along with my brother and sisters. My Father was born in Zeelught Essequibo and my Ancesters on my Father's side came from Barbados. I can trace my roots on my Mother's side back to the 1820's in Zeelandia Wakenam. And oh Both Colin and Stanley are related to me. Things like you all cannot trace your roots that far back; if you got roots.

                                            Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                            There is Moore of Victoria, and of Ann's Grove.  Ralph Moore and Vincent Moore - outstanding Guianese, in the field of Community Development.  Vincent Emanuel Moore married my great aunt Winifred Sancho and they resided in Ann's Grove.  Vincent Moore's brother was a schoolmaster at one of the Schools in Skeldon.  I think it is Skeldon Scots school.  my cousin attended the Scots school.  Therefore I think that the school.  I will have to look it up.
                                            I am praying that Roger Moore is neither a relative of either of those two Moore kinships nor that of the great Barbadian scholar Roger B. Moore.  I would be greatly disappointed.  How could such exemplary kinships reproduce such a reprehensible character is beyond my realm of thought process.  It simply cannot be.  Lord have mercy!  I am likely to find a bloodline connection between Burnham and Roger Moore - aren't I?  Well!  that would explain his behavior.  Roger Moore like his mentor, have no faith in democratic and egalitarian societies.
                                            I cannot help myself please forgive I have to take another swing at Moore and his daddy, Burnham.  I put down the Burnham book written by an Indian of the Guyanese experience.  I realize not even beneficiaries cannot pour more than enough perfume over that caucus.  It is simply too putrid.  Burnham stinks anyway you look at him.  Even his best characteristic are suspect because they were used against the working class peoples of Guyana.  I had to pick the Thomas Paine book Rights of Man – to really ask myself what eyes are Roger Moore look at Burnham with over the last 57 years.  It must be bedroom eyes.  Not a rational mind at all. Roger if you are related to those Moore and or Stanley Moore – please don’t enlighten me. You can have Colin Moore. It would be too much for my poor blackheart. Such a shock would rid you of me – it certainly will…


                                            roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                            First of all the Waddle Commission said that 3 people died in Wisma. Is that a massacre? I hardly think so; and that was after he murder of 46 persons on the MV Carr.Dam Hypocrites. The Jagans and Jagdeo are the ones like Pol Pot, with the crime wave that they allowed to their benifit to occur; not Burnham.

                                            "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:
                                            Hello Sancho
                                             
                                            If Burnham is Caribbean man of the Century then Asian man of the Century must be Pol Pot, African man of the Century Idi Amin and European man of the Century Adolf Hitler !
                                             
                                            Burnham was the Devil's Disciple, what he was responsible for at Mackenzie can never be forgotten !
                                             
                                            Regards
                                             
                                            Jon

                                            Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                            I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985?
                                            I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task ?like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle ?adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                                            I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
                                            Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                                            What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                                            An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                             
                                             
                                            I managed to read the following;
                                             
                                            I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                                             
                                             
                                            President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                            New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes ?and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                                             
                                            In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                                             


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                                            M'lilwana Osanku - Sancho of Nabaclis.
                                            Researching - Sancho, Campbell, Young (Younge), Solomon, Ross & Martin - Families of Guyana.
                                            History of Golden Grove and Nabaclis Village District, East Sea Coast Demerara, Guyana.
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                                            Researching - Sancho, Campbell, Young (Younge), Solomon, Ross & Martin - Families of Guyana.
                                            History of Golden Grove and Nabaclis Village District, East Sea Coast Demerara, Guyana.
                                            "A people without the knowledge of their past history, origin and culture is like a tree without roots." The Most Honourable Marcus Garvey (1887-1940) People's Power Forever Vote AFC Tme for Change - down with ethnic politics -

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                                            Poor old chap- a man must know and not believe –Bob Marley. However, before you criticize and condemn Sancho. You ought to be enlightened concerning
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                                              Poor old chap- a man must know and not believe –Bob Marley.  However, before you criticize and condemn Sancho.  You ought to be enlightened concerning Sancho.  Sancho do not give a rat’s but what others think about them.  They care about their seven seals being opened up.  What are the revelations each man brings with them to Sancho. Is it Love or is it hatred?  I am saying Sancho determines what individuals are posing to him.  Sancho educate themselves concerning others before they jump to conclusions.
                                              Roger, dear fellow, I do hope you would look at the entire picture – before you make commentary.  Perhaps, theirs is room for common ground.


                                              roger moore <roger42 m@...> wrote:
                                              I don't care to know
                                              Roger

                                              Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                              Roger - dear old chap - your are beyond - help  -- certainly you have heard the name Sancho...Frederick Douglass wrote about Sancho...There's a fellow who was born on board a slave ship who became the most celebrate African in England in the eighteenth Century...his name Ignatius Sancho 1729 -1780 - that's whom I believe to be one of my ancestors.  I suspect grand father of Bentick Sancho...research is continuing.  I am trying to establish a Sancho family non-profit organization to look into matters concerning Sancho, including DNA, - and researching for roots in particularly Abeokuta and Kumasi.  I see myself as an Egba of the Yoruba people.  Sprinkled with Akan.
                                              I love it when folks can put aside their animosities and chat the social history...I could even learn to accept and have love this Roger Moore.  Who know it is up to you old chap. I believe there is good in every being even those with Bajan heritage named Moore.  The old Guianese adage, God not blind god naah Bajan.
                                              I am not surprised you have not idea who Sancho really are although I have several sites where the information is found.  I suggest you read books and article written by and about Sancho – and then perhaps, you would begin to understand the ground upon which I stand.  Perhaps you will read, “The letters of Ignatius Sancho.”  Then read about Golden Grove and Nabaclis during February 1856 – the Angel Gabriel Riots.  You will encounter the shrewd and stout leadership, Bentick Sancho, provided between Enmore and Belfield, on the East Sea Coast of Demerara.
                                              I do not know when and where Bentick Sancho was born, I believe it is in London.  I do not know when he died, except it was prior to April 17, 1884.  Bentick Sancho’s tomb only reveals that he is resting in peace therein and his wife, Mary is in the same tomb.  Since most Sancho live to about 72 years old and my grandfather is reported as saying he was about 10 years old when his grandfather died, I am looking at the years 1882, and 1883 – for the transition of Bentick Sancho to the Land of Ancestor.  I believe Bentick was born between 1800 and 1810.
                                              Another, point, I believe Brent Sancho of Trinidad is a relative of mine.  I believe he is either descended from James Sancho who married Rebecca in Christ Church Barbados on September 8, 1838 or John Sancho, brother of Bentick Sancho.  Anyhow, Liburd Sancho of St. Vincent is Brent Sancho’s ancestor.  Thus, you maybe able to summarize that Sancho, Bentick, John and Tuckness, entered British Guiana, from Barbados, after the Indians arrived in May 1838, at some point prior to January 5, 1848.
                                              Thus dear old chap I believe Sancho, my representatives were emancipated in 1751.  Thus having been accustomed to freedom even in a European world I resent oppression.  I heard the members of prior generations saying me aah Sancho me nah lave son – Sancho do not stand foolishness.  Sancho stand for what is right and decent. Their comrades would say onto me – boy you aah Sancho act like Sancho , and behave yourself, properly.
                                              If you did not know now you know.


                                              roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                              For your information, I was born in England but went to Guyana when I was 14 along with my brother and sisters. My Father was born in Zeelught Essequibo and my Ancesters on my Father's side came from Barbados. I can trace my roots on my Mother's side back to the 1820's in Zeelandia Wakenam. And oh Both Colin and Stanley are related to me. Things like you all cannot trace your roots that far back; if you got roots.

                                              Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                              There is Moore of Victoria, and of Ann's Grove.  Ralph Moore and Vincent Moore - outstanding Guianese, in the field of Community Development.  Vincent Emanuel Moore married my great aunt Winifred Sancho and they resided in Ann's Grove.  Vincent Moore's brother was a schoolmaster at one of the Schools in Skeldon.  I think it is Skeldon Scots school.  my cousin attended the Scots school.  Therefore I think that the school.  I will have to look it up.
                                              I am praying that Roger Moore is neither a relative of either of those two Moore kinships nor that of the great Barbadian scholar Roger B. Moore.  I would be greatly disappointed.  How could such exemplary kinships reproduce such a reprehensible character is beyond my realm of thought process.  It simply cannot be.  Lord have mercy!  I am likely to find a bloodline connection between Burnham and Roger Moore - aren't I?  Well!  that would explain his behavior.  Roger Moore like his mentor, have no faith in democratic and egalitarian societies.
                                              I cannot help myself please forgive I have to take another swing at Moore and his daddy, Burnham.  I put down the Burnham book written by an Indian of the Guyanese experience.  I realize not even beneficiaries cannot pour more than enough perfume over that caucus.  It is simply too putrid.  Burnham stinks anyway you look at him.  Even his best characteristic are suspect because they were used against the working class peoples of Guyana.  I had to pick the Thomas Paine book Rights of Man – to really ask myself what eyes are Roger Moore look at Burnham with over the last 57 years.  It must be bedroom eyes.  Not a rational mind at all. Roger if you are related to those Moore and or Stanley Moore – please don’t enlighten me. You can have Colin Moore. It would be too much for my poor blackheart. Such a shock would rid you of me – it certainly will…


                                              roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                              First of all the Waddle Commission said that 3 people died in Wisma. Is that a massacre? I hardly think so; and that was after he murder of 46 persons on the MV Carr.Dam Hypocrites. The Jagans and Jagdeo are the ones like Pol Pot, with the crime wave that they allowed to their benifit to occur; not Burnham.

                                              "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:
                                              Hello Sancho
                                               
                                              If Burnham is Caribbean man of the Century then Asian man of the Century must be Pol Pot, African man of the Century Idi Amin and European man of the Century Adolf Hitler !
                                               
                                              Burnham was the Devil's Disciple, what he was responsible for at Mackenzie can never be forgotten !
                                               
                                              Regards
                                               
                                              Jon

                                              Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                              I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985?
                                              I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task ?like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle ?adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                                              I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
                                              Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                                              What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                                              An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                               
                                               
                                              I managed to read the following;
                                               
                                              I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                                               
                                               
                                              President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                              New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes ?and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                                               
                                              In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                                               


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                                              Hello Roger From the Guyana Chronicle : At Wismar in 1964, a riot took place, the entire Indian population was uprooted and their property set on fire by
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                                                Hello Roger
                                                 
                                                From the Guyana Chronicle :
                                                 
                                                "At Wismar in 1964, a riot took place, the entire Indian population was uprooted and their property set on fire by Africans who formed themselves into gangs.
                                                 
                                                Over 200 houses and business places were robbed and destroyed, and over 1600 East Indians were made homeless.
                                                 
                                                Many were beaten to death others had to flee for their lives.
                                                 
                                                Many women were raped and savagely maltreated in full view of the public, causing East Indians to leave Wismar and seek refuge elsewhere.

                                                Previously in 1962 and 1963 Indians were attacked and beaten on the streets of Georgetown, and their business places looted."
                                                 
                                                I think there were more than 3 people killed although not hundreds but still isn't life precious or were their lives worthless ?
                                                 
                                                No one claimed responsibilty for the other attack (The Son Chapman) and as all the victims were Africans it was assumed it was Indians who done it but whoever done it were also wrong and it is a great tragedy.
                                                 
                                                The actual numbers of Casualties may not have been to high but the effects on their Families plus all the upheaval should not be considered so lightly !
                                                 
                                                Due to the Mackenzie incident many more lost their lives in the madness that followed.
                                                 
                                                We are starting to go off Topic here and i am just as guilty for doing so so lets indeed get back to Genealogy.
                                                 
                                                Guyana's past has been a torrid and a turmolteous one and it's Society is still full of trouble today so lets not dwell too much on negative events and concentrate on our Ancestral Heritage.
                                                 
                                                Regards
                                                 
                                                Jon

                                                roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                                First of all the Waddle Commission said that 3 people died in Wisma. Is that a massacre? I hardly think so; and that was after he murder of 46 persons on the MV Carr.Dam Hypocrites. The Jagans and Jagdeo are the ones like Pol Pot, with the crime wave that they allowed to their benifit to occur; not Burnham.

                                                "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:
                                                Hello Sancho
                                                 
                                                If Burnham is Caribbean man of the Century then Asian man of the Century must be Pol Pot, African man of the Century Idi Amin and European man of the Century Adolf Hitler !
                                                 
                                                Burnham was the Devil's Disciple, what he was responsible for at Mackenzie can never be forgotten !
                                                 
                                                Regards
                                                 
                                                Jon

                                                Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                                I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985?
                                                I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it a rather overwhelming task ?like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle ?adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                                                I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned in the book?  Can you share with me?
                                                Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                                                What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                                                An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                                 
                                                 
                                                I managed to read the following;
                                                 
                                                I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                                                 
                                                 
                                                President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.  Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder, therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                                New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and international developments and record his successes ?and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                                                 
                                                In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the Working People’s Alliance , Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                                                 


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                                                Jon can you access june 30, 1964 and look for the reports of the burning of Gandhi Memorial in Golden Grove? I think I got the date correct. it must be June or
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                                                  Jon
                                                  can you access june 30, 1964 and look for the reports of the burning of Gandhi Memorial in Golden
                                                  Grove? I think I got the date correct. it must be June or July 30, 1964. Ramakant told me. I am
                                                  not sure now.
                                                  Any reports concerning Victoria, Golden Grove, Buxton - the ECD let me have it - I am older now.
                                                  I can handle it in 2006. I certainly could not in 1964. I thought the people (both black and
                                                  Indian) were plain old crazy. They seemed to have lost their darned minds. People whom I had loved
                                                  and respected were on the hunt and on the run from each other. I do not ever want to experience a
                                                  race war, again.
                                                  the news shows what happens daily as per example in recent days in IRAQ...that is the effects of
                                                  Religious tribalism.

                                                  --- "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:

                                                  > Hello Roger
                                                  >
                                                  > From the Guyana Chronicle :
                                                  >
                                                  > "At Wismar in 1964, a riot took place, the entire Indian population was uprooted and their
                                                  > property set on fire by Africans who formed themselves into gangs.
                                                  >
                                                  > Over 200 houses and business places were robbed and destroyed, and over 1600 East Indians were
                                                  > made homeless.
                                                  >
                                                  > Many were beaten to death others had to flee for their lives.
                                                  >
                                                  > Many women were raped and savagely maltreated in full view of the public, causing East Indians
                                                  > to leave Wismar and seek refuge elsewhere.
                                                  >
                                                  > Previously in 1962 and 1963 Indians were attacked and beaten on the streets of Georgetown, and
                                                  > their business places looted."
                                                  >
                                                  > I think there were more than 3 people killed although not hundreds but still isn't life
                                                  > precious or were their lives worthless ?
                                                  >
                                                  > No one claimed responsibilty for the other attack (The Son Chapman) and as all the victims
                                                  > were Africans it was assumed it was Indians who done it but whoever done it were also wrong and
                                                  > it is a great tragedy.
                                                  >
                                                  > The actual numbers of Casualties may not have been to high but the effects on their Families
                                                  > plus all the upheaval should not be considered so lightly !
                                                  >
                                                  > Due to the Mackenzie incident many more lost their lives in the madness that followed.
                                                  >
                                                  > We are starting to go off Topic here and i am just as guilty for doing so so lets indeed get
                                                  > back to Genealogy.
                                                  >
                                                  > Guyana's past has been a torrid and a turmolteous one and it's Society is still full of
                                                  > trouble today so lets not dwell too much on negative events and concentrate on our Ancestral
                                                  > Heritage.
                                                  >
                                                  > Regards
                                                  >
                                                  > Jon
                                                  >
                                                  > roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                                  > First of all the Waddle Commission said that 3 people died in Wisma. Is that a massacre? I
                                                  > hardly think so; and that was after he murder of 46 persons on the MV Carr.Dam Hypocrites. The
                                                  > Jagans and Jagdeo are the ones like Pol Pot, with the crime wave that they allowed to their
                                                  > benifit to occur; not Burnham.
                                                  >
                                                  > "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote: Hello Sancho
                                                  >
                                                  > If Burnham is Caribbean man of the Century then Asian man of the Century must be Pol Pot,
                                                  > African man of the Century Idi Amin and European man of the Century Adolf Hitler !
                                                  >
                                                  > Burnham was the Devil's Disciple, what he was responsible for at Mackenzie can never be
                                                  > forgotten !
                                                  >
                                                  > Regards
                                                  >
                                                  > Jon
                                                  >
                                                  > Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                                  > I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s
                                                  > literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985?
                                                  > I found it a most difficult exercise. I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page. My
                                                  > tolerance was simply; exhausted. Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the
                                                  > five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett. I attempted to test my ability to assess
                                                  > repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor. However, I fond it
                                                  > a rather overwhelming task ?like attempting to fetch water in a basket. I prefer reading John
                                                  > Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people. I must
                                                  > say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle ?adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as
                                                  > Burnham. Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                                                  > I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book. I would careless. I noted
                                                  > one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me. Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned
                                                  > in the book? Can you share with me?
                                                  > Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                                                  > What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their
                                                  > platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                                                  > An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the
                                                  > Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  > I managed to read the following;
                                                  >
                                                  > I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s
                                                  > College. Thus, the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my
                                                  > heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  > President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny. They are
                                                  > secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.
                                                  > Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order
                                                  > campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition
                                                  > at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy. It is little wonder,
                                                  > therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared
                                                  > “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                                  > New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and
                                                  > charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and
                                                  > international developments and record his successes ?and his shortcomings. For, after all, he
                                                  > was human. But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day
                                                  > study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute
                                                  > leader, and shrewd statesman that he was. (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                                                  >
                                                  > In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the
                                                  > Working People’s Alliance, Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of
                                                  > National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress. This
                                                  > scenario too did not come to actualization. (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  > Eternal Blessings, Love, Peace, Power & Unity
                                                  > M'lilwana Osanku - Sancho of Nabaclis.
                                                  > Researching - Sancho, Campbell, Young (Younge), Solomon, Ross & Martin - Families of Guyana.
                                                  > History of Golden Grove and Nabaclis Village District, East Sea Coast Demerara, Guyana.
                                                  >
                                                  > "A people without the knowledge of their past history, origin and culture is like a tree
                                                  > without roots." The Most Honourable Marcus Garvey (1887-1940) People's Power Forever Vote AFC
                                                  > Tme for Change - down with ethnic politics -
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                                                  Hello Sancho I will look into it and get back with any findings. I previously stated 1962 but i meant 1964, i just got my dates muddled slightly. There was
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                                                    Hello Sancho
                                                     
                                                    I will look into it and get back with any findings.
                                                     
                                                    I previously stated 1962 but i meant 1964, i just got my dates muddled slightly.
                                                     
                                                    There was still violence in 1962 and British Troops were sent to restore order but the actual events in Mackenzie/Wismar was in 1964.
                                                     
                                                    What happened is no different from events in Bosnia, Iraq, Kosovo, Rwanda, Congo, Northern Ireland and other places where Race and Sectarian Issues have torn Countries apart.
                                                     
                                                    It is a shame that such events have entered our discussions but they are all part and parcel of our History and although distasteful should not be forgotten about.
                                                     
                                                    If i find anything on Golden Grove and Nabaclis in 1964 i will let you know.
                                                     
                                                    Regards
                                                     
                                                    Jon

                                                    Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                                    Jon 
                                                    can you access june 30, 1964 and look for the reports of the burning of Gandhi Memorial in Golden
                                                    Grove? I think I got the date correct. it must be June or July 30, 1964. Ramakant told me. I am
                                                    not sure now.
                                                    Any reports concerning Victoria, Golden Grove, Buxton - the ECD let me have it  - I am older now.
                                                    I can handle it in 2006. I certainly could not in 1964. I thought the people (both black and
                                                    Indian) were plain old crazy. They seemed to have lost their darned minds. People whom I had loved
                                                    and respected were on the hunt and on the run from each other. I do not ever want to experience a
                                                    race war, again.
                                                    the news shows what happens daily as per example in recent days in IRAQ...that is the effects of
                                                    Religious tribalism.

                                                    --- "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:

                                                    > Hello Roger
                                                    >   
                                                    >   From the Guyana Chronicle :
                                                    >   
                                                    >   "At Wismar in 1964, a riot took place, the entire Indian population was uprooted and their
                                                    > property set on fire by Africans who formed themselves into gangs.
                                                    >   
                                                    >   Over 200 houses and business places were robbed and destroyed, and over 1600 East Indians were
                                                    > made homeless.
                                                    >   
                                                    >   Many were beaten to death others had to flee for their lives.
                                                    >   
                                                    >   Many women were raped and savagely maltreated in full view of the public, causing East Indians
                                                    > to leave Wismar and seek refuge elsewhere.
                                                    >
                                                    > Previously in 1962 and 1963 Indians were attacked and beaten on the streets of Georgetown, and
                                                    > their business places looted."
                                                    >   
                                                    >   I think there were more than 3 people killed although not hundreds but still isn't life
                                                    > precious or were their lives worthless ?
                                                    >   
                                                    >   No one claimed responsibilty for the other attack (The Son Chapman) and as all the victims
                                                    > were Africans it was assumed it was Indians who done it but whoever done it were also wrong and
                                                    > it is a great tragedy.
                                                    >   
                                                    >   The actual numbers of Casualties may not have been to high but the effects on their Families
                                                    > plus all the upheaval should not be considered so lightly !
                                                    >   
                                                    >   Due to the Mackenzie incident many more lost their lives in the madness that followed.
                                                    >   
                                                    >   We are starting to go off Topic here and i am just as guilty for doing so so lets indeed get
                                                    > back to Genealogy.
                                                    >   
                                                    >   Guyana's past has been a torrid and a turmolteous one and it's Society is still full of
                                                    > trouble today so lets not dwell too much on negative events and concentrate on our Ancestral
                                                    > Heritage.
                                                    >   
                                                    >   Regards
                                                    >   
                                                    >   Jon
                                                    >
                                                    > roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                                    >   First of all the Waddle Commission said that 3 people died in Wisma. Is that a massacre? I
                                                    > hardly think so; and that was after he murder of 46 persons on the MV Carr.Dam Hypocrites. The
                                                    > Jagans and Jagdeo are the ones like Pol Pot, with the crime wave that they allowed to their
                                                    > benifit to occur; not Burnham.
                                                    >
                                                    > "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:     Hello Sancho
                                                    >   
                                                    >   If Burnham is Caribbean man of the Century then Asian man of the Century must be Pol Pot,
                                                    > African man of the Century Idi Amin and European man of the Century Adolf Hitler !
                                                    >   
                                                    >   Burnham was the Devil's Disciple, what he was responsible for at Mackenzie can never be
                                                    > forgotten !
                                                    >   
                                                    >   Regards
                                                    >   
                                                    >   Jon
                                                    >
                                                    > Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                                    >     I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s
                                                    > literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985?
                                                    >   I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My
                                                    > tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the
                                                    > five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess
                                                    > repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it
                                                    > a rather overwhelming task ?like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John
                                                    > Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must
                                                    > say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle ?adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as
                                                    > Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                                                    >   I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted
                                                    > one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned
                                                    > in the book?  Can you share with me?
                                                    >   Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                                                    >   What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their
                                                    > platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                                                    >   An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the
                                                    > Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                                    >   
                                                    >   
                                                    >   I managed to read the following;
                                                    >   
                                                    >   I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s
                                                    > College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my
                                                    > heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                                                    >   
                                                    >   
                                                    >   President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are
                                                    > secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.
                                                    > Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order
                                                    > campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition
                                                    > at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder,
                                                    > therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared
                                                    > “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                                    >   New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and
                                                    > charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and
                                                    > international developments and record his successes ?and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he
                                                    > was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day
                                                    > study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute
                                                    > leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                                                    >   
                                                    >   In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the
                                                    > Working People’s Alliance, Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of
                                                    > National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This
                                                    > scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                                                    >   
                                                    >
                                                    >
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                                                    > History of Golden Grove and Nabaclis Village District, East Sea Coast Demerara, Guyana.
                                                    >  
                                                    >   "A people without the knowledge of their past history, origin and culture is like a tree
                                                    > without roots." The Most Honourable Marcus Garvey (1887-1940) People's Power Forever Vote AFC
                                                    > Tme for Change - down with ethnic politics -
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                                                    My brother, I am not only interested in 1964. I am interested in any and every event and period in the history of that community, in particularly. I am trying
                                                    Message 25 of 26 , Mar 3, 2006
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                                                      My brother,
                                                      I am not only interested in 1964.  I am interested in any and every event and period in the history of that community, in particularly. 
                                                       I am trying to find the underlying history of the community.  The history that was known by those resting in peace in the communities.  I am not with the politically and ethnic sensitized versions.
                                                      What people write and proclaim as the history of the communities, are for the most part only their imitation of the true story of the communities.
                                                      Be on the look out for the Dutch and Irish in British Guiana - will you?
                                                       
                                                       It was more than  enough for me today. It was simply too cold and windy.
                                                       
                                                      Bronx , NY
                                                      Clear24°
                                                      Feels Like: 14°
                                                      Dew Point: 3°
                                                      Humidity: 32%
                                                      Visibility: 10 MI
                                                       


                                                      "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:
                                                      Hello Sancho
                                                       
                                                      I will look into it and get back with any findings.
                                                       
                                                      I previously stated 1962 but i meant 1964, i just got my dates muddled slightly.
                                                       
                                                      There was still violence in 1962 and British Troops were sent to restore order but the actual events in Mackenzie/Wismar was in 1964.
                                                       
                                                      What happened is no different from events in Bosnia, Iraq, Kosovo, Rwanda, Congo, Northern Ireland and other places where Race and Sectarian Issues have torn Countries apart.
                                                       
                                                      It is a shame that such events have entered our discussions but they are all part and parcel of our History and although distasteful should not be forgotten about.
                                                       
                                                      If i find anything on Golden Grove and Nabaclis in 1964 i will let you know.
                                                       
                                                      Regards
                                                       
                                                      Jon

                                                      Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                                      Jon 
                                                      can you access june 30, 1964 and look for the reports of the burning of Gandhi Memorial in Golden
                                                      Grove? I think I got the date correct. it must be June or July 30, 1964. Ramakant told me. I am
                                                      not sure now.
                                                      Any reports concerning Victoria, Golden Grove, Buxton - the ECD let me have it  - I am older now.
                                                      I can handle it in 2006. I certainly could not in 1964. I thought the people (both black and
                                                      Indian) were plain old crazy. They seemed to have lost their darned minds. People whom I had loved
                                                      and respected were on the hunt and on the run from each other. I do not ever want to experience a
                                                      race war, again.
                                                      the news shows what happens daily as per example in recent days in IRAQ...that is the effects of
                                                      Religious tribalism.

                                                      --- "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:

                                                      > Hello Roger
                                                      >   
                                                      >   From the Guyana Chronicle :
                                                      >   
                                                      >   "At Wismar in 1964, a riot took place, the entire Indian population was uprooted and their
                                                      > property set on fire by Africans who formed themselves into gangs.
                                                      >   
                                                      >   Over 200 houses and business places were robbed and destroyed, and over 1600 East Indians were
                                                      > made homeless.
                                                      >   
                                                      >   Many were beaten to death others had to flee for their lives.
                                                      >   
                                                      >   Many women were raped and savagely maltreated in full view of the public, causing East Indians
                                                      > to leave Wismar and seek refuge elsewhere.
                                                      >
                                                      > Previously in 1962 and 1963 Indians were attacked and beaten on the streets of Georgetown, and
                                                      > their business places looted."
                                                      >   
                                                      >   I think there were more than 3 people killed although not hundreds but still isn't life
                                                      > precious or were their lives worthless ?
                                                      >   
                                                      >   No one claimed responsibilty for the other attack (The Son Chapman) and as all the victims
                                                      > were Africans it was assumed it was Indians who done it but whoever done it were also wrong and
                                                      > it is a great tragedy.
                                                      >   
                                                      >   The actual numbers of Casualties may not have been to high but the effects on their Families
                                                      > plus all the upheaval should not be considered so lightly !
                                                      >   
                                                      >   Due to the Mackenzie incident many more lost their lives in the madness that followed.
                                                      >   
                                                      >   We are starting to go off Topic here and i am just as guilty for doing so so lets indeed get
                                                      > back to Genealogy.
                                                      >   
                                                      >   Guyana's past has been a torrid and a turmolteous one and it's Society is still full of
                                                      > trouble today so lets not dwell too much on negative events and concentrate on our Ancestral
                                                      > Heritage.
                                                      >   
                                                      >   Regards
                                                      >   
                                                      >   Jon
                                                      >
                                                      > roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                                      >   First of all the Waddle Commission said that 3 people died in Wisma. Is that a massacre? I
                                                      > hardly think so; and that was after he murder of 46 persons on the MV Carr.Dam Hypocrites. The
                                                      > Jagans and Jagdeo are the ones like Pol Pot, with the crime wave that they allowed to their
                                                      > benifit to occur; not Burnham.
                                                      >
                                                      > "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:     Hello Sancho
                                                      >   
                                                      >   If Burnham is Caribbean man of the Century then Asian man of the Century must be Pol Pot,
                                                      > African man of the Century Idi Amin and European man of the Century Adolf Hitler !
                                                      >   
                                                      >   Burnham was the Devil's Disciple, what he was responsible for at Mackenzie can never be
                                                      > forgotten !
                                                      >   
                                                      >   Regards
                                                      >   
                                                      >   Jon
                                                      >
                                                      > Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                                      >     I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s
                                                      > literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985?
                                                      >   I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My
                                                      > tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the
                                                      > five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess
                                                      > repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it
                                                      > a rather overwhelming task ?like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John
                                                      > Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must
                                                      > say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle ?adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as
                                                      > Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                                                      >   I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted
                                                      > one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned
                                                      > in the book?  Can you share with me?
                                                      >   Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                                                      >   What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their
                                                      > platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                                                      >   An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the
                                                      > Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                                      >   
                                                      >   
                                                      >   I managed to read the following;
                                                      >   
                                                      >   I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s
                                                      > College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my
                                                      > heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                                                      >   
                                                      >   
                                                      >   President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are
                                                      > secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.
                                                      > Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order
                                                      > campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition
                                                      > at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder,
                                                      > therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared
                                                      > “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                                      >   New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and
                                                      > charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and
                                                      > international developments and record his successes ?and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he
                                                      > was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day
                                                      > study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute
                                                      > leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                                                      >   
                                                      >   In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the
                                                      > Working People’s Alliance, Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of
                                                      > National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This
                                                      > scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                                                      >   
                                                      >
                                                      >
                                                      >             Eternal Blessings, Love, Peace, Power & Unity
                                                      > M'lilwana Osanku - Sancho of Nabaclis.
                                                      >   Researching - Sancho, Campbell, Young (Younge), Solomon, Ross & Martin - Families of Guyana.
                                                      > History of Golden Grove and Nabaclis Village District, East Sea Coast Demerara, Guyana.
                                                      >  
                                                      >   "A people without the knowledge of their past history, origin and culture is like a tree
                                                      > without roots." The Most Honourable Marcus Garvey (1887-1940) People's Power Forever Vote AFC
                                                      > Tme for Change - down with ethnic politics -
                                                      >  
                                                      >
                                                      >
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                                                      History of Golden Grove and Nabaclis Village District, East Sea Coast Demerara, Guyana.
                                                       
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                                                      Hello Sancho You are right that Historical Accounts that we have are based on the interpretations of people from the East Indian Community and may not
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                                                        Hello Sancho
                                                         
                                                        You are right that Historical Accounts that we have are based on the interpretations of people from the East Indian Community and may not necessary always be based on true Historical Accounts but on the thoughts of Individuals.
                                                         
                                                        I base my Historical knowledge on actual Primary evidence that can be witnessed such as Documentation and in the modern age Film.
                                                         
                                                        The History of East Indians is fascinating and so should be learnt truefully and correctly and those wishing to learn should not be influenced by prejudiced views or bias views from certain Members of that and other Communities.
                                                         
                                                        There is much evidence of the Dutch presense in Guyana as it was once a Dutch Colony and their legacy is all around us - Relics, Graves, Documents, place names, Surnames etc.
                                                         
                                                        There isn't so much evidence of the Irish but they were in Guyana.
                                                         
                                                        There were both Irish Planters and Irish Indentured Servants, the Planters were most likely Protestants of English or Scottish origin but most of the Indentured Servants would have been Catholics.
                                                         
                                                        The Planters would have been in Guyana since the 18th Century but the Indentured Servants arrived in the 1830's just before the Indians and Chinese.
                                                         
                                                        Let me know what you would like to know in particular and i will have a look.
                                                         
                                                        Regards
                                                         
                                                        Jon
                                                         


                                                        Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                                         
                                                        My brother,
                                                        I am not only interested in 1964.  I am interested in any and every event and period in the history of that community, in particularly. 
                                                         I am trying to find the underlying history of the community.  The history that was known by those resting in peace in the communities.  I am not with the politically and ethnic sensitized versions.
                                                        What people write and proclaim as the history of the communities, are for the most part only their imitation of the true story of the communities.
                                                        Be on the look out for the Dutch and Irish in British Guiana - will you?
                                                         
                                                         It was more than  enough for me today. It was simply too cold and windy.
                                                         
                                                        Bronx , NY
                                                        Clear24°
                                                        Feels Like: 14°
                                                        Dew Point: 3°
                                                        Humidity: 32%
                                                        Visibility: 10 MI
                                                         


                                                        "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:
                                                        Hello Sancho
                                                         
                                                        I will look into it and get back with any findings.
                                                         
                                                        I previously stated 1962 but i meant 1964, i just got my dates muddled slightly.
                                                         
                                                        There was still violence in 1962 and British Troops were sent to restore order but the actual events in Mackenzie/Wismar was in 1964.
                                                         
                                                        What happened is no different from events in Bosnia, Iraq, Kosovo, Rwanda, Congo, Northern Ireland and other places where Race and Sectarian Issues have torn Countries apart.
                                                         
                                                        It is a shame that such events have entered our discussions but they are all part and parcel of our History and although distasteful should not be forgotten about.
                                                         
                                                        If i find anything on Golden Grove and Nabaclis in 1964 i will let you know.
                                                         
                                                        Regards
                                                         
                                                        Jon

                                                        Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                                        Jon 
                                                        can you access june 30, 1964 and look for the reports of the burning of Gandhi Memorial in Golden
                                                        Grove? I think I got the date correct. it must be June or July 30, 1964. Ramakant told me. I am
                                                        not sure now.
                                                        Any reports concerning Victoria, Golden Grove, Buxton - the ECD let me have it  - I am older now.
                                                        I can handle it in 2006. I certainly could not in 1964. I thought the people (both black and
                                                        Indian) were plain old crazy. They seemed to have lost their darned minds. People whom I had loved
                                                        and respected were on the hunt and on the run from each other. I do not ever want to experience a
                                                        race war, again.
                                                        the news shows what happens daily as per example in recent days in IRAQ...that is the effects of
                                                        Religious tribalism.

                                                        --- "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:

                                                        > Hello Roger
                                                        >   
                                                        >   From the Guyana Chronicle :
                                                        >   
                                                        >   "At Wismar in 1964, a riot took place, the entire Indian population was uprooted and their
                                                        > property set on fire by Africans who formed themselves into gangs.
                                                        >   
                                                        >   Over 200 houses and business places were robbed and destroyed, and over 1600 East Indians were
                                                        > made homeless.
                                                        >   
                                                        >   Many were beaten to death others had to flee for their lives.
                                                        >   
                                                        >   Many women were raped and savagely maltreated in full view of the public, causing East Indians
                                                        > to leave Wismar and seek refuge elsewhere.
                                                        >
                                                        > Previously in 1962 and 1963 Indians were attacked and beaten on the streets of Georgetown, and
                                                        > their business places looted."
                                                        >   
                                                        >   I think there were more than 3 people killed although not hundreds but still isn't life
                                                        > precious or were their lives worthless ?
                                                        >   
                                                        >   No one claimed responsibilty for the other attack (The Son Chapman) and as all the victims
                                                        > were Africans it was assumed it was Indians who done it but whoever done it were also wrong and
                                                        > it is a great tragedy.
                                                        >   
                                                        >   The actual numbers of Casualties may not have been to high but the effects on their Families
                                                        > plus all the upheaval should not be considered so lightly !
                                                        >   
                                                        >   Due to the Mackenzie incident many more lost their lives in the madness that followed.
                                                        >   
                                                        >   We are starting to go off Topic here and i am just as guilty for doing so so lets indeed get
                                                        > back to Genealogy.
                                                        >   
                                                        >   Guyana's past has been a torrid and a turmolteous one and it's Society is still full of
                                                        > trouble today so lets not dwell too much on negative events and concentrate on our Ancestral
                                                        > Heritage.
                                                        >   
                                                        >   Regards
                                                        >   
                                                        >   Jon
                                                        >
                                                        > roger moore <roger42m@...> wrote:
                                                        >   First of all the Waddle Commission said that 3 people died in Wisma. Is that a massacre? I
                                                        > hardly think so; and that was after he murder of 46 persons on the MV Carr.Dam Hypocrites. The
                                                        > Jagans and Jagdeo are the ones like Pol Pot, with the crime wave that they allowed to their
                                                        > benifit to occur; not Burnham.
                                                        >
                                                        > "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:     Hello Sancho
                                                        >   
                                                        >   If Burnham is Caribbean man of the Century then Asian man of the Century must be Pol Pot,
                                                        > African man of the Century Idi Amin and European man of the Century Adolf Hitler !
                                                        >   
                                                        >   Burnham was the Devil's Disciple, what he was responsible for at Mackenzie can never be
                                                        > forgotten !
                                                        >   
                                                        >   Regards
                                                        >   
                                                        >   Jon
                                                        >
                                                        > Sancho of Nabaclis <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                                                        >     I made an effort to be objective and open minded in the effort to read Halim Majeed’s
                                                        > literature, “Forbes Burnham: National Reconciliation And National Unity, 1984-1985?
                                                        >   I found it a most difficult exercise.  I simply could not get by the seventhteenth page.  My
                                                        > tolerance was simply; exhausted.  Although I love reading his articles, I did not read the
                                                        > five-page forward written by Dr. Aubrey Bonnett.  I attempted to test my ability to assess
                                                        > repressive forces that I personally suffered, as explained by their advisor.  However, I fond it
                                                        > a rather overwhelming task ?like attempting to fetch water in a basket.  I prefer reading John
                                                        > Gladstone after all that oppressor is European and clearly defined enemy of the people.  I must
                                                        > say Sam Sharp, and Paul Bogle ?adopted the right attitudes when dealing with folks such as
                                                        > Burnham.  Just look at the Africans in Jamaica and their attempts at self-emancipation.
                                                        >   I do not know what is truthful and what is not honest in the book.  I would careless.  I noted
                                                        > one paragraph mentioning my hero, Dr. Walter Rodney that did for me.  Is Eusi Kwayana mentioned
                                                        > in the book?  Can you share with me?
                                                        >   Any enlightening take you may have accessed
                                                        >   What are your opinions of this exposure of the shenanigans of Burnham and Jagan and their
                                                        > platforms PNC and PPP, after the assassination of Walter Rodney?
                                                        >   An online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared “Caribbean Man of the
                                                        > Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                                        >   
                                                        >   
                                                        >   I managed to read the following;
                                                        >   
                                                        >   I understood at some point between 1942 and 1945, Burnham, taught T. Anson Sancho at Queen’s
                                                        > College.  Thus,  the only note I appreciated is that Burnham taught Fred Wills (one of my
                                                        > heroes)Shridath Ramphal, Rashleigh Jackson, Bryn Pollard and Keith Massiah.(Majeed : 2)
                                                        >   
                                                        >   
                                                        >   President Burnham’s achievements will certainly withstand the test of any scrutiny.  They are
                                                        > secured in the midst of external aggression and destabilization, and internal turmoil.
                                                        > Territorial threats came from the eastern and western fronts; the purveyors of the old order
                                                        > campaigned strenuously to halt the march of national development, and the political opposition
                                                        > at home played havoc with the foundations of the national economy.  It is little wonder,
                                                        > therefore, that in an online poll conducted a few years ago in the region he was declared
                                                        > “Caribbean Man of the Century.?lt;/FONT>
                                                        >   New historians and historiographers, as separate from mythmakers, poison-pen scribblers and
                                                        > charlatans, will one day objectively examine his contributions to national, regional, and
                                                        > international developments and record his successes ?and his shortcomings.  For, after all, he
                                                        > was human.  But his place in history is Secure and future generations of Guyanese will one day
                                                        > study him from a qualitatively different standpoint - as the formidable intellectual, resolute
                                                        > leader, and shrewd statesman that he was.  (Majeed: 16 & 17)
                                                        >   
                                                        >   In 1979, the outstanding Guyanese historian, intellectual and political co-leader of the
                                                        > Working People’s Alliance, Dr. Walter Rodney, articulated the concept of a Government of
                                                        > National Unity and Reconstruction, with the exclusion of the People’s National Congress.  This
                                                        > scenario too did not come to actualization.  (Majeed: 31 & 32)
                                                        >   
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                                                          Researching - Sancho, Campbell, Young (Younge), Solomon, Ross &  Martin -  Families of Guyana.
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