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  • Jon - Budmart.co.uk
    Hello Sancho You can look up Familysearch from any Internet ready PC and it is a very useful tool for research. It is especially good for producing Pedigrees
    Message 1 of 24 , Sep 22, 2005
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      Hello Sancho
       
      You can look up Familysearch from any Internet ready PC and it is a very useful tool for research.
       
      It is especially good for producing Pedigrees as it gives the names of Spouses and Parents.
       
      On the downside the user may sometimes come up with numerous hits if the name being searched is a common one that takes time to work through to seperate the not's from the maybe's.
       
      The user will also get more constructive hits if they give as less details as possible as too much information will get less results missing potential matches.
       
      It is one of the main Websites for Genealogists and should be on everybody's Internet favourites list.
       
      Regards
       
      Jon

      Sancho <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
      Very well explained, Brother John,  Can Familysearch.org be searched
      from any internet ready computer? If it can be then it can be very
      useful to Guyanese researching their ancestry.
      I found a bit of data there on families of Golden Grove, and Buxton -
      and other rural areas of British Guiana.
      Very quickly the following springs to my mind; Simon, Josiah,
      Williams,Young, Younge, Campbell, Stoll, and Roberts....Its worth the
      effort.

      On 20/09/05, Jon - Budmart.co.uk <budmartuk@...> wrote:
      > Hello Jenn
      >
      > I totally agree with a lot of what you say.
      >
      > A lot of the Subscriber Websites are very costly and might not have what we
      > are looking for at the end of the day.
      >
      > A lot of them do free trials for a limited time, a good way of getting
      > information if you have got as much together as you can, you can then cross
      > reference it against their records and get as much as you can, printing off
      > copies etc. before your trial ends.
      >
      > At the end of the trial you can decide whether to continue or not but will
      > have obtained a little bit more of information either way.
      >
      > There are some cheaper Subscriber sites where you pay per view and can buy
      > credits in small quantities with each search/look up costing a few Cents
      > each time.
      >
      > I have also found that most of these sites cater for Americans or people
      > with American Ancestors rather than those who have been in the States just
      > for a short period or who live elsewhere.
      >
      > These sites cover the periods when your Ancestors moved there but not before
      > they moved there and there isn't too many sites around covering the earlier
      > part of their lives.
      >
      > Funnily you mention having our own Genealogy Website as we do !
      >
      > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyggbs/index.htm
      >
      > It is still under construction but is online and can be viewed any time,
      > most of the pages are complete and are constantly being updated.
      >
      > It is completely free to use and is full of useful Links and resources.
      >
      > A browse of the Bulletin Board may turn up some Relatives as contributors
      > are asked to give the Surnames of their Families that are being researched.
      >
      > We also have a small number of resources that can aid your search.
      >
      > It would be ideal to have a Website that could be linked to the Guyana
      > National Archives and could provide many Online records but sadly due to
      > disinterest on the part of the Guyanese Government many such projects have
      > never fully taken off.
      >
      > One day we may get the assistance and co-operation we need and will be able
      > to produce a much better service.
      >
      > In the meantime, have a look at our Website as it is still very impressive
      > and is very useful.
      >
      > Regards
      >
      > Jon
      >
      >
      >
      > Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
      > Sancho,
      >
      > It is really good to know of the existence of these sites... but I have a
      > problem with them.  Let me explain. When I was researching my father's
      > ancestry, I figured that since he was from Poland, probably some member/s of
      > his family had migrated to the US.  As a result I paid to join up most if
      > not all of these various sites and ended up spending hundreds of dollars all
      > to no avail.  Finally in desperation I researched all the addresses and
      > websites for Szala's that I could find on the internet and wrote them via
      > either email or snail mail.  One of the websites I found was that of my
      > second cousin who was studying at Oxford University in London.  He responded
      > after verifying with his father (my cousin) and the rest is history.  We are
      > now in regular contact (even with the language barrier) and they were even
      > able to send me a copy of a letter my mother had written to my aunt after
      > the death of my father along with pictures of my brother and I as kids.  You
      > see, my father was the only one who ever left Poland and settle anywhere
      > else, so there was no possibility that I could have found information about
      > them elsewhere.
      >
      > The reason I tell you this is that the hundreds of dollars I spent joining
      > up these various ancestry sites was a waste of money.  They do not allow you
      > to view what is available and then pay if you find the information you need.
      >  In addition, most of the information they have available is for descendants
      > of Americans.  Like most Guyanese, my ancestors did not originate in the US.
      >  The ancestors of Guyanese came from Europe, Asia, or Africa ... not
      > America.  The potential benefit of joining these sites would be only to find
      > descendants, not ancestors.  Most of us have that information anyway.
      > Furthermore, there are not that many Guyanese who are researching their
      > ancestry or posting the information anywhere, so the information is limited
      > and like a needle in a haystack anyway.
      >
      > Instead of posting the information that we found for ourselves (and for
      > which we have paid quite a bit in either time or money) to a site that would
      > then ask our relatives to pay them, why don't we create our own genealogy
      > site?  We could offer the service for free or for a nominal fee that could
      > help to support the archives in Guyana.  This way we would be benefiting
      > Guyana and Guyanese and making it easier for Guyanese to connect with the
      > various branches of their relatives.  I would be more than happy to assist
      > with this venture.
      >
      > Jenn
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
      > [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
      > Sancho
      > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 1:27 PM
      > To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census
      >
      > 1930 United States Federal Census
      > http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=6224&ti=0
      >
      > 475 persons born in British Guiana is listed in 1930 United States
      > Federal Census.
      >
      > --
      > Sancho of Nabaclis
      > son of Muriel, brother of Mariette
      > Campbell, Sancho, Young, Martin & Ross.
      >
      >
      >
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      >
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      --
      Sancho of Nabaclis
      son of Muriel, brother of Mariette
      Campbell, Sancho, Young, Martin & Ross.


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    • Guyana Genealogical Scoiety
      Your are so right Jon. I attempted it this morning and was pleasantly surprised. http://www.familysearch.org/ I am thinking folks should try it, before asking
      Message 2 of 24 , Sep 23, 2005
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        Your are so right Jon. I attempted it this morning and was pleasantly surprised. http://www.familysearch.org/ 
        I am thinking folks should try it, before asking us to assist them - with the personal touch in research institutions.
        John Wilmer's collection of newspapers and colonists, which is hosted in concert with Van Cooten are resources which Guianese ought to research as well. I found a number of folks surnamed,  Stevenson , therein whom I did not encounter in my ongoing research, previously.
        I need to accquire the links. It is a good source for data on the European experiencein Guiana.
        I am thinking it is very difficult to follow the generations of Africans from it, simply because it was not designed for such a purpose.
        Thanks again for all - I am revitalized.

        "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:
        Hello Sancho
         
        You can look up Familysearch from any Internet ready PC and it is a very useful tool for research.
         
        It is especially good for producing Pedigrees as it gives the names of Spouses and Parents.
         
        On the downside the user may sometimes come up with numerous hits if the name being searched is a common one that takes time to work through to seperate the not's from the maybe's.
         
        The user will also get more constructive hits if they give as less details as possible as too much information will get less results missing potential matches.
         
        It is one of the main Websites for Genealogists and should be on everybody's Internet favourites list.
         
        Regards
         
        Jon

        Sancho <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
        Very well explained, Brother John,  Can Familysearch.org be searched
        from any internet ready computer? If it can be then it can be very
        useful to Guyanese researching their ancestry.
        I found a bit of data there on families of Golden Grove, and Buxton -
        and other rural areas of British Guiana.
        Very quickly the following springs to my mind; Simon, Josiah,
        Williams,Young, Younge, Campbell, Stoll, and Roberts....Its worth the
        effort.

        On 20/09/05, Jon - Budmart.co.uk <budmartuk@...> wrote:
        > Hello Jenn
        >
        > I totally agree with a lot of what you say.
        >
        > A lot of the Subscriber Websites are very costly and might not have what we
        > are looking for at the end of the day.
        >
        > A lot of them do free trials for a limited time, a good way of getting
        > information if you have got as much together as you can, you can then cross
        > reference it against their records and get as much as you can, printing off
        > copies etc. before your trial ends.
        >
        > At the end of the trial you can decide whether to continue or not but will
        > have obtained a little bit more of information either way.
        >
        > There are some cheaper Subscriber sites where you pay per view and can buy
        > credits in small quantities with each search/look up costing a few Cents
        > each time.
        >
        > I have also found that most of these sites cater for Americans or people
        > with American Ancestors rather than those who have been in the States just
        > for a short period or who live elsewhere.
        >
        > These sites cover the periods when your Ancestors moved there but not before
        > they moved there and there isn't too many sites around covering the earlier
        > part of their lives.
        >
        > Funnily you mention having our own Genealogy Website as we do !
        >
        > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyggbs/index.htm
        >
        > It is still under construction but is online and can be viewed any time,
        > most of the pages are complete and are constantly being updated.
        >
        > It is completely free to use and is full of useful Links and resources.
        >
        > A browse of the Bulletin Board may turn up some Relatives as contributors
        > are asked to give the Surnames of their Families that are being researched.
        >
        > We also have a small number of resources that can aid your search.
        >
        > It would be ideal to have a Website that could be linked to the Guyana
        > National Archives and could provide many Online records but sadly due to
        > disinterest on the part of the Guyanese Government many such projects have
        > never fully taken off.
        >
        > One day we may get the assistance and co-operation we need and will be able
        > to produce a much better service.
        >
        > In the meantime, have a look at our Website as it is still very impressive
        > and is very useful.
        >
        > Regards
        >
        > Jon
        >
        >
        >
        > Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
        > Sancho,
        >
        > It is really good to know of the existence of these sites... but I have a
        > problem with them.  Let me explain. When I was researching my father's
        > ancestry, I figured that since he was from Poland, probably some member/s of
        > his family had migrated to the US.  As a result I paid to join up most if
        > not all of these various sites and ended up spending hundreds of dollars all
        > to no avail.  Finally in desperation I researched all the addresses and
        > websites for Szala's that I could find on the internet and wrote them via
        > either email or snail mail.  One of the websites I found was that of my
        > second cousin who was studying at Oxford University in London.  He responded
        > after verifying with his father (my cousin) and the rest is history.  We are
        > now in regular contact (even with the language barrier) and they were even
        > able to send me a copy of a letter my mother had written to my aunt after
        > the death of my father along with pictures of my brother and I as kids.  You
        > see, my father was the only one who ever left Poland and settle anywhere
        > else, so there was no possibility that I could have found information about
        > them elsewhere.
        >
        > The reason I tell you this is that the hundreds of dollars I spent joining
        > up these various ancestry sites was a waste of money.  They do not allow you
        > to view what is available and then pay if you find the information you need.
        >  In addition, most of the information they have available is for descendants
        > of Americans.  Like most Guyanese, my ancestors did not originate in the US.
        >  The ancestors of Guyanese came from Europe, Asia, or Africa ... not
        > America.  The potential benefit of joining these sites would be only to find
        > descendants, not ancestors.  Most of us have that information anyway.
        > Furthermore, there are not that many Guyanese who are researching their
        > ancestry or posting the information anywhere, so the information is limited
        > and like a needle in a haystack anyway.
        >
        > Instead of posting the information that we found for ourselves (and for
        > which we have paid quite a bit in either time or money) to a site that would
        > then ask our relatives to pay them, why don't we create our own genealogy
        > site?  We could offer the service for free or for a nominal fee that could
        > help to support the archives in Guyana.  This way we would be benefiting
        > Guyana and Guyanese and making it easier for Guyanese to connect with the
        > various branches of their relatives.  I would be more than happy to assist
        > with this venture.
        >
        > Jenn
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
        > [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
        > Sancho
        > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 1:27 PM
        > To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census
        >
        > 1930 United States Federal Census
        > http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=6224&ti=0
        >
        > 475 persons born in British Guiana is listed in 1930 United States
        > Federal Census.
        >
        > --
        > Sancho of Nabaclis
        > son of Muriel, brother of Mariette
        > Campbell, Sancho, Young, Martin & Ross.
        >
        >
        >
        > Visit Budmart.co.uk for all your Collecting needs !
        >
        > ________________________________
        > Yahoo! for Good
        > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
        > ________________________________
        > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
        >
        >  Visit your group "guyanese_genealogy" on the web.
        >
        >  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
        >  guyanese_genealogy-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
        >
        >  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
        >  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
        >  guyanese_genealogy-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
        >
        >  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
        >  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
        > ________________________________
        >
        >
        >


        --
        Sancho of Nabaclis
        son of Muriel, brother of Mariette
        Campbell, Sancho, Young, Martin & Ross.


        Visit Budmart.co.uk for all your Collecting needs !

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      • John Wilmer
        My two guilders worth (on the newspapers). Though there is the obvious element that things were different back in those early nineteenth century times, there
        Message 3 of 24 , Sep 23, 2005
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          My two guilders worth (on the newspapers).

          Though there is the obvious element that "things were different" back in
          those early nineteenth century times, there is the good possibility that
          those of African ancestry can trace their roots through the newspaper
          sources - especially those indicated as "free coloured, free negro, free
          mulatto." The newspapers also record the petitions for letters of
          manumission. Especially interesting are the Commissary Court's transactions
          for transports and mortgage both for land (and occasionally slaves). Here
          also the "free" possessed land throughout present-day Georgetown and in
          other locales. Those quiting the colony provide examples - here I assume
          most would be travelling to Barbados, though there are some that are
          distinctly travelling to Europe, the U.S. or Canada.

          Searches on those "free" terms in MSN Search will provide some examples (see
          also the "People" indices). Note: Google has not examined the site for
          productive results.

          I'm currently examining the reel for 1817 & 1818 where some free people of
          colour have announcements for Banns of matrimony.

          If you'd like to assist, see the "Assist" page.

          John Wilmer




          >From: Guyana Genealogical Scoiety <guyanagenealogy@...>
          >Reply-To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
          >To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
          >Subject: Re: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census
          >Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 07:21:22 -0700 (PDT)
          >
          >Your are so right Jon. I attempted it this morning and was pleasantly
          >surprised. http://www.familysearch.org/
          >I am thinking folks should try it, before asking us to assist them - with
          >the personal touch in research institutions.
          >John Wilmer's collection of newspapers and colonists, which is hosted in
          >concert with Van Cooten are resources which Guianese ought to research as
          >well. I found a number of folks surnamed, Stevenson , therein whom I did
          >not encounter in my ongoing research, previously.
          >I need to accquire the links. It is a good source for data on the European
          >experiencein Guiana.
          >I am thinking it is very difficult to follow the generations of Africans
          >from it, simply because it was not designed for such a purpose.
          >Thanks again for all - I am revitalized.
          >
          >"Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:
          >Hello Sancho
          >
          >You can look up Familysearch from any Internet ready PC and it is a very
          >useful tool for research.
          >
          >It is especially good for producing Pedigrees as it gives the names of
          >Spouses and Parents.
          >
          >On the downside the user may sometimes come up with numerous hits if the
          >name being searched is a common one that takes time to work through to
          >seperate the not's from the maybe's.
          >
          >The user will also get more constructive hits if they give as less details
          >as possible as too much information will get less results missing potential
          >matches.
          >
          >It is one of the main Websites for Genealogists and should be on
          >everybody's Internet favourites list.
          >
          >Regards
          >
          >Jon
          >
          >Sancho <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
          >Very well explained, Brother John, Can Familysearch.org be searched
          >from any internet ready computer? If it can be then it can be very
          >useful to Guyanese researching their ancestry.
          >I found a bit of data there on families of Golden Grove, and Buxton -
          >and other rural areas of British Guiana.
          >Very quickly the following springs to my mind; Simon, Josiah,
          >Williams,Young, Younge, Campbell, Stoll, and Roberts....Its worth the
          >effort.
          >
          >On 20/09/05, Jon - Budmart.co.uk <budmartuk@...> wrote:
          > > Hello Jenn
          > >
          > > I totally agree with a lot of what you say.
          > >
          > > A lot of the Subscriber Websites are very costly and might not have what
          >we
          > > are looking for at the end of the day.
          > >
          > > A lot of them do free trials for a limited time, a good way of getting
          > > information if you have got as much together as you can, you can then
          >cross
          > > reference it against their records and get as much as you can, printing
          >off
          > > copies etc. before your trial ends.
          > >
          > > At the end of the trial you can decide whether to continue or not but
          >will
          > > have obtained a little bit more of information either way.
          > >
          > > There are some cheaper Subscriber sites where you pay per view and can
          >buy
          > > credits in small quantities with each search/look up costing a few Cents
          > > each time.
          > >
          > > I have also found that most of these sites cater for Americans or people
          > > with American Ancestors rather than those who have been in the States
          >just
          > > for a short period or who live elsewhere.
          > >
          > > These sites cover the periods when your Ancestors moved there but not
          >before
          > > they moved there and there isn't too many sites around covering the
          >earlier
          > > part of their lives.
          > >
          > > Funnily you mention having our own Genealogy Website as we do !
          > >
          > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyggbs/index.htm
          > >
          > > It is still under construction but is online and can be viewed any time,
          > > most of the pages are complete and are constantly being updated.
          > >
          > > It is completely free to use and is full of useful Links and resources.
          > >
          > > A browse of the Bulletin Board may turn up some Relatives as
          >contributors
          > > are asked to give the Surnames of their Families that are being
          >researched.
          > >
          > > We also have a small number of resources that can aid your search.
          > >
          > > It would be ideal to have a Website that could be linked to the Guyana
          > > National Archives and could provide many Online records but sadly due to
          > > disinterest on the part of the Guyanese Government many such projects
          >have
          > > never fully taken off.
          > >
          > > One day we may get the assistance and co-operation we need and will be
          >able
          > > to produce a much better service.
          > >
          > > In the meantime, have a look at our Website as it is still very
          >impressive
          > > and is very useful.
          > >
          > > Regards
          > >
          > > Jon
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > > Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
          > > Sancho,
          > >
          > > It is really good to know of the existence of these sites... but I have
          >a
          > > problem with them. Let me explain. When I was researching my father's
          > > ancestry, I figured that since he was from Poland, probably some
          >member/s of
          > > his family had migrated to the US. As a result I paid to join up most
          >if
          > > not all of these various sites and ended up spending hundreds of dollars
          >all
          > > to no avail. Finally in desperation I researched all the addresses and
          > > websites for Szala's that I could find on the internet and wrote them
          >via
          > > either email or snail mail. One of the websites I found was that of my
          > > second cousin who was studying at Oxford University in London. He
          >responded
          > > after verifying with his father (my cousin) and the rest is history. We
          >are
          > > now in regular contact (even with the language barrier) and they were
          >even
          > > able to send me a copy of a letter my mother had written to my aunt
          >after
          > > the death of my father along with pictures of my brother and I as kids.
          >You
          > > see, my father was the only one who ever left Poland and settle anywhere
          > > else, so there was no possibility that I could have found information
          >about
          > > them elsewhere.
          > >
          > > The reason I tell you this is that the hundreds of dollars I spent
          >joining
          > > up these various ancestry sites was a waste of money. They do not allow
          >you
          > > to view what is available and then pay if you find the information you
          >need.
          > > In addition, most of the information they have available is for
          >descendants
          > > of Americans. Like most Guyanese, my ancestors did not originate in the
          >US.
          > > The ancestors of Guyanese came from Europe, Asia, or Africa ... not
          > > America. The potential benefit of joining these sites would be only to
          >find
          > > descendants, not ancestors. Most of us have that information anyway.
          > > Furthermore, there are not that many Guyanese who are researching their
          > > ancestry or posting the information anywhere, so the information is
          >limited
          > > and like a needle in a haystack anyway.
          > >
          > > Instead of posting the information that we found for ourselves (and for
          > > which we have paid quite a bit in either time or money) to a site that
          >would
          > > then ask our relatives to pay them, why don't we create our own
          >genealogy
          > > site? We could offer the service for free or for a nominal fee that
          >could
          > > help to support the archives in Guyana. This way we would be benefiting
          > > Guyana and Guyanese and making it easier for Guyanese to connect with
          >the
          > > various branches of their relatives. I would be more than happy to
          >assist
          > > with this venture.
          > >
          > > Jenn
          > >
          > > -----Original Message-----
          > > From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
          > > [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
          > > Sancho
          > > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 1:27 PM
          > > To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
          > > Subject: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census
          > >
          > > 1930 United States Federal Census
          > > http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=6224&ti=0
          > >
          > > 475 persons born in British Guiana is listed in 1930 United States
          > > Federal Census.
          > >
          > > --
          > > Sancho of Nabaclis
          > > son of Muriel, brother of Mariette
          > > Campbell, Sancho, Young, Martin & Ross.
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > > Visit Budmart.co.uk for all your Collecting needs !
          > >
          > > ________________________________
          > > Yahoo! for Good
          > > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
          > > ________________________________
          > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
          > >
          > > Visit your group "guyanese_genealogy" on the web.
          > >
          > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
          > > guyanese_genealogy-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
          > >
          > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
          > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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          > >
          > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
          > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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          > >
          > >
          > >
          >
          >
          >--
          >Sancho of Nabaclis
          >son of Muriel, brother of Mariette
          >Campbell, Sancho, Young, Martin & Ross.
          >
          >
          >Visit Budmart.co.uk for all your Collecting needs !
          >
          >
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          >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
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          >
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          >
          >
          > Visit your group "guyanese_genealogy" on the web.
          >
          > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
          > guyanese_genealogy-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
          >
          > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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        • John Wilmer
          A follow-up / how to on searching for particular terms in the MSN Search engine: Copy and paste the following into the MSN search window and then modify for
          Message 4 of 24 , Sep 23, 2005
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            A follow-up / how to on searching for particular terms in the MSN Search
            engine:

            Copy and paste the following into the MSN search window and then modify for
            your search terms:

            site:ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au/~rvc/edg "free negro"


            >From: "John Wilmer" <lance2703@...>
            >Reply-To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
            >To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
            >Subject: Re: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census
            >Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 11:13:52 -0400
            >
            >
            >My two guilders worth (on the newspapers).
            >
            >Though there is the obvious element that "things were different" back in
            >those early nineteenth century times, there is the good possibility that
            >those of African ancestry can trace their roots through the newspaper
            >sources - especially those indicated as "free coloured, free negro, free
            >mulatto." The newspapers also record the petitions for letters of
            >manumission. Especially interesting are the Commissary Court's
            >transactions
            >for transports and mortgage both for land (and occasionally slaves). Here
            >also the "free" possessed land throughout present-day Georgetown and in
            >other locales. Those quiting the colony provide examples - here I assume
            >most would be travelling to Barbados, though there are some that are
            >distinctly travelling to Europe, the U.S. or Canada.
            >
            >Searches on those "free" terms in MSN Search will provide some examples
            >(see
            >also the "People" indices). Note: Google has not examined the site for
            >productive results.
            >
            >I'm currently examining the reel for 1817 & 1818 where some free people of
            >colour have announcements for Banns of matrimony.
            >
            >If you'd like to assist, see the "Assist" page.
            >
            >John Wilmer
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > >From: Guyana Genealogical Scoiety <guyanagenealogy@...>
            > >Reply-To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
            > >To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
            > >Subject: Re: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census
            > >Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 07:21:22 -0700 (PDT)
            > >
            > >Your are so right Jon. I attempted it this morning and was pleasantly
            > >surprised. http://www.familysearch.org/
            > >I am thinking folks should try it, before asking us to assist them - with
            > >the personal touch in research institutions.
            > >John Wilmer's collection of newspapers and colonists, which is hosted in
            > >concert with Van Cooten are resources which Guianese ought to research as
            > >well. I found a number of folks surnamed, Stevenson , therein whom I did
            > >not encounter in my ongoing research, previously.
            > >I need to accquire the links. It is a good source for data on the
            >European
            > >experiencein Guiana.
            > >I am thinking it is very difficult to follow the generations of Africans
            > >from it, simply because it was not designed for such a purpose.
            > >Thanks again for all - I am revitalized.
            > >
            > >"Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:
            > >Hello Sancho
            > >
            > >You can look up Familysearch from any Internet ready PC and it is a very
            > >useful tool for research.
            > >
            > >It is especially good for producing Pedigrees as it gives the names of
            > >Spouses and Parents.
            > >
            > >On the downside the user may sometimes come up with numerous hits if the
            > >name being searched is a common one that takes time to work through to
            > >seperate the not's from the maybe's.
            > >
            > >The user will also get more constructive hits if they give as less
            >details
            > >as possible as too much information will get less results missing
            >potential
            > >matches.
            > >
            > >It is one of the main Websites for Genealogists and should be on
            > >everybody's Internet favourites list.
            > >
            > >Regards
            > >
            > >Jon
            > >
            > >Sancho <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
            > >Very well explained, Brother John, Can Familysearch.org be searched
            > >from any internet ready computer? If it can be then it can be very
            > >useful to Guyanese researching their ancestry.
            > >I found a bit of data there on families of Golden Grove, and Buxton -
            > >and other rural areas of British Guiana.
            > >Very quickly the following springs to my mind; Simon, Josiah,
            > >Williams,Young, Younge, Campbell, Stoll, and Roberts....Its worth the
            > >effort.
            > >
            > >On 20/09/05, Jon - Budmart.co.uk <budmartuk@...> wrote:
            > > > Hello Jenn
            > > >
            > > > I totally agree with a lot of what you say.
            > > >
            > > > A lot of the Subscriber Websites are very costly and might not have
            >what
            > >we
            > > > are looking for at the end of the day.
            > > >
            > > > A lot of them do free trials for a limited time, a good way of getting
            > > > information if you have got as much together as you can, you can then
            > >cross
            > > > reference it against their records and get as much as you can,
            >printing
            > >off
            > > > copies etc. before your trial ends.
            > > >
            > > > At the end of the trial you can decide whether to continue or not but
            > >will
            > > > have obtained a little bit more of information either way.
            > > >
            > > > There are some cheaper Subscriber sites where you pay per view and can
            > >buy
            > > > credits in small quantities with each search/look up costing a few
            >Cents
            > > > each time.
            > > >
            > > > I have also found that most of these sites cater for Americans or
            >people
            > > > with American Ancestors rather than those who have been in the States
            > >just
            > > > for a short period or who live elsewhere.
            > > >
            > > > These sites cover the periods when your Ancestors moved there but not
            > >before
            > > > they moved there and there isn't too many sites around covering the
            > >earlier
            > > > part of their lives.
            > > >
            > > > Funnily you mention having our own Genealogy Website as we do !
            > > >
            > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyggbs/index.htm
            > > >
            > > > It is still under construction but is online and can be viewed any
            >time,
            > > > most of the pages are complete and are constantly being updated.
            > > >
            > > > It is completely free to use and is full of useful Links and
            >resources.
            > > >
            > > > A browse of the Bulletin Board may turn up some Relatives as
            > >contributors
            > > > are asked to give the Surnames of their Families that are being
            > >researched.
            > > >
            > > > We also have a small number of resources that can aid your search.
            > > >
            > > > It would be ideal to have a Website that could be linked to the Guyana
            > > > National Archives and could provide many Online records but sadly due
            >to
            > > > disinterest on the part of the Guyanese Government many such projects
            > >have
            > > > never fully taken off.
            > > >
            > > > One day we may get the assistance and co-operation we need and will be
            > >able
            > > > to produce a much better service.
            > > >
            > > > In the meantime, have a look at our Website as it is still very
            > >impressive
            > > > and is very useful.
            > > >
            > > > Regards
            > > >
            > > > Jon
            > > >
            > > >
            > > >
            > > > Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
            > > > Sancho,
            > > >
            > > > It is really good to know of the existence of these sites... but I
            >have
            > >a
            > > > problem with them. Let me explain. When I was researching my father's
            > > > ancestry, I figured that since he was from Poland, probably some
            > >member/s of
            > > > his family had migrated to the US. As a result I paid to join up most
            > >if
            > > > not all of these various sites and ended up spending hundreds of
            >dollars
            > >all
            > > > to no avail. Finally in desperation I researched all the addresses
            >and
            > > > websites for Szala's that I could find on the internet and wrote them
            > >via
            > > > either email or snail mail. One of the websites I found was that of
            >my
            > > > second cousin who was studying at Oxford University in London. He
            > >responded
            > > > after verifying with his father (my cousin) and the rest is history.
            >We
            > >are
            > > > now in regular contact (even with the language barrier) and they were
            > >even
            > > > able to send me a copy of a letter my mother had written to my aunt
            > >after
            > > > the death of my father along with pictures of my brother and I as
            >kids.
            > >You
            > > > see, my father was the only one who ever left Poland and settle
            >anywhere
            > > > else, so there was no possibility that I could have found information
            > >about
            > > > them elsewhere.
            > > >
            > > > The reason I tell you this is that the hundreds of dollars I spent
            > >joining
            > > > up these various ancestry sites was a waste of money. They do not
            >allow
            > >you
            > > > to view what is available and then pay if you find the information you
            > >need.
            > > > In addition, most of the information they have available is for
            > >descendants
            > > > of Americans. Like most Guyanese, my ancestors did not originate in
            >the
            > >US.
            > > > The ancestors of Guyanese came from Europe, Asia, or Africa ... not
            > > > America. The potential benefit of joining these sites would be only
            >to
            > >find
            > > > descendants, not ancestors. Most of us have that information anyway.
            > > > Furthermore, there are not that many Guyanese who are researching
            >their
            > > > ancestry or posting the information anywhere, so the information is
            > >limited
            > > > and like a needle in a haystack anyway.
            > > >
            > > > Instead of posting the information that we found for ourselves (and
            >for
            > > > which we have paid quite a bit in either time or money) to a site that
            > >would
            > > > then ask our relatives to pay them, why don't we create our own
            > >genealogy
            > > > site? We could offer the service for free or for a nominal fee that
            > >could
            > > > help to support the archives in Guyana. This way we would be
            >benefiting
            > > > Guyana and Guyanese and making it easier for Guyanese to connect with
            > >the
            > > > various branches of their relatives. I would be more than happy to
            > >assist
            > > > with this venture.
            > > >
            > > > Jenn
            > > >
            > > > -----Original Message-----
            > > > From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
            > > > [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
            > > > Sancho
            > > > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 1:27 PM
            > > > To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
            > > > Subject: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census
            > > >
            > > > 1930 United States Federal Census
            > > > http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=6224&ti=0
            > > >
            > > > 475 persons born in British Guiana is listed in 1930 United States
            > > > Federal Census.
            > > >
            > > > --
            > > > Sancho of Nabaclis
            > > > son of Muriel, brother of Mariette
            > > > Campbell, Sancho, Young, Martin & Ross.
            > > >
            > > >
            > > >
            > > > Visit Budmart.co.uk for all your Collecting needs !
            > > >
            > > > ________________________________
            > > > Yahoo! for Good
            > > > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
            > > > ________________________________
            > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
            > > >
            > > > Visit your group "guyanese_genealogy" on the web.
            > > >
            > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
            > > > guyanese_genealogy-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
            > > >
            > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
            > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
            > > > guyanese_genealogy-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
            > > >
            > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
            > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
            > > > ________________________________
            > > >
            > > >
            > > >
            > >
            > >
            > >--
            > >Sancho of Nabaclis
            > >son of Muriel, brother of Mariette
            > >Campbell, Sancho, Young, Martin & Ross.
            > >
            > >
            > >Visit Budmart.co.uk for all your Collecting needs !
            > >
            > >
            > >__________________________________________________
            > >Do You Yahoo!?
            > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
            > >http://mail.yahoo.com
            > >
            > >
            > >---------------------------------
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            > >
            > >
            > > Visit your group "guyanese_genealogy" on the web.
            > >
            > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
            > > guyanese_genealogy-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
            > >
            > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
            > >
            > >
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            > >
            > >
            > >
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          • Jon - Budmart.co.uk
            Hello Jenn and Everyone Below is a example of what i have recently been talking about. I have been sent a E-Mail by Ancestry advertising a free limited search
            Message 5 of 24 , Sep 24, 2005
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              Hello Jenn and Everyone

               

              Below is a example of what i have recently been talking about.

               

              I have been sent a E-Mail by Ancestry advertising a free limited search of the 1901 Census until the end of the Month.

               

              If you visit

               

              http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk

               

              you can view the same records of the English and Welsh Census for free anytime.

               

              A lot of the information that Subscribers pay to view can be seen for free either at Ancestry or elsewhere.

               

              It's worth seeing what's available and what's not.

               

              Regards

               

              Jon

               

              Unfortunately I had already done the "trial period" prior to paying for the service.  If I were to give it another "try", I would have to automatically pay once again, without benefit of another trial period.
               
              Jenn

               

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            • Jon - Budmart.co.uk
              Hello Sancho It is a very good site but users should be cautious when using it. Not all hits will be the same person you are looking for even though they share
              Message 6 of 24 , Sep 24, 2005
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                Hello Sancho
                 
                It is a very good site but users should be cautious when using it.
                 
                Not all hits will be the same person you are looking for even though they share the same Names, some Names were popular so there are a number of different unrelated people with that Name plus in the case of Afro-Guyanese a number of Africans share the same Surnames as they were enslaved on the same Plantations but are not related, the Surnames were given to them by the European Plantation owners.
                 
                The Birth and Marriage records can help to determine whether you have the right persons.
                 
                A very useful Index.
                 
                Regards
                 
                Jon

                Guyana Genealogical Scoiety <guyanagenealogy@...> wrote:
                Your are so right Jon. I attempted it this morning and was pleasantly surprised. http://www.familysearch.org/ 
                I am thinking folks should try it, before asking us to assist them - with the personal touch in research institutions.
                John Wilmer's collection of newspapers and colonists, which is hosted in concert with Van Cooten are resources which Guianese ought to research as well. I found a number of folks surnamed,  Stevenson , therein whom I did not encounter in my ongoing research, previously.
                I need to accquire the links. It is a good source for data on the European experiencein Guiana.
                I am thinking it is very difficult to follow the generations of Africans from it, simply because it was not designed for such a purpose.
                Thanks again for all - I am revitalized.

                "Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:
                Hello Sancho
                 
                You can look up Familysearch from any Internet ready PC and it is a very useful tool for research.
                 
                It is especially good for producing Pedigrees as it gives the names of Spouses and Parents.
                 
                On the downside the user may sometimes come up with numerous hits if the name being searched is a common one that takes time to work through to seperate the not's from the maybe's.
                 
                The user will also get more constructive hits if they give as less details as possible as too much information will get less results missing potential matches.
                 
                It is one of the main Websites for Genealogists and should be on everybody's Internet favourites list.
                 
                Regards
                 
                Jon

                Sancho <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                Very well explained, Brother John,  Can Familysearch.org be searched
                from any internet ready computer? If it can be then it can be very
                useful to Guyanese researching their ancestry.
                I found a bit of data there on families of Golden Grove, and Buxton -
                and other rural areas of British Guiana.
                Very quickly the following springs to my mind; Simon, Josiah,
                Williams,Young, Younge, Campbell, Stoll, and Roberts....Its worth the
                effort.

                On 20/09/05, Jon - Budmart.co.uk <budmartuk@...> wrote:
                > Hello Jenn
                >
                > I totally agree with a lot of what you say.
                >
                > A lot of the Subscriber Websites are very costly and might not have what we
                > are looking for at the end of the day.
                >
                > A lot of them do free trials for a limited time, a good way of getting
                > information if you have got as much together as you can, you can then cross
                > reference it against their records and get as much as you can, printing off
                > copies etc. before your trial ends.
                >
                > At the end of the trial you can decide whether to continue or not but will
                > have obtained a little bit more of information either way.
                >
                > There are some cheaper Subscriber sites where you pay per view and can buy
                > credits in small quantities with each search/look up costing a few Cents
                > each time.
                >
                > I have also found that most of these sites cater for Americans or people
                > with American Ancestors rather than those who have been in the States just
                > for a short period or who live elsewhere.
                >
                > These sites cover the periods when your Ancestors moved there but not before
                > they moved there and there isn't too many sites around covering the earlier
                > part of their lives.
                >
                > Funnily you mention having our own Genealogy Website as we do !
                >
                > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyggbs/index.htm
                >
                > It is still under construction but is online and can be viewed any time,
                > most of the pages are complete and are constantly being updated.
                >
                > It is completely free to use and is full of useful Links and resources.
                >
                > A browse of the Bulletin Board may turn up some Relatives as contributors
                > are asked to give the Surnames of their Families that are being researched.
                >
                > We also have a small number of resources that can aid your search.
                >
                > It would be ideal to have a Website that could be linked to the Guyana
                > National Archives and could provide many Online records but sadly due to
                > disinterest on the part of the Guyanese Government many such projects have
                > never fully taken off.
                >
                > One day we may get the assistance and co-operation we need and will be able
                > to produce a much better service.
                >
                > In the meantime, have a look at our Website as it is still very impressive
                > and is very useful.
                >
                > Regards
                >
                > Jon
                >
                >
                >
                > Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                > Sancho,
                >
                > It is really good to know of the existence of these sites... but I have a
                > problem with them.  Let me explain. When I was researching my father's
                > ancestry, I figured that since he was from Poland, probably some member/s of
                > his family had migrated to the US.  As a result I paid to join up most if
                > not all of these various sites and ended up spending hundreds of dollars all
                > to no avail.  Finally in desperation I researched all the addresses and
                > websites for Szala's that I could find on the internet and wrote them via
                > either email or snail mail.  One of the websites I found was that of my
                > second cousin who was studying at Oxford University in London.  He responded
                > after verifying with his father (my cousin) and the rest is history.  We are
                > now in regular contact (even with the language barrier) and they were even
                > able to send me a copy of a letter my mother had written to my aunt after
                > the death of my father along with pictures of my brother and I as kids.  You
                > see, my father was the only one who ever left Poland and settle anywhere
                > else, so there was no possibility that I could have found information about
                > them elsewhere.
                >
                > The reason I tell you this is that the hundreds of dollars I spent joining
                > up these various ancestry sites was a waste of money.  They do not allow you
                > to view what is available and then pay if you find the information you need.
                >  In addition, most of the information they have available is for descendants
                > of Americans.  Like most Guyanese, my ancestors did not originate in the US.
                >  The ancestors of Guyanese came from Europe, Asia, or Africa ... not
                > America.  The potential benefit of joining these sites would be only to find
                > descendants, not ancestors.  Most of us have that information anyway.
                > Furthermore, there are not that many Guyanese who are researching their
                > ancestry or posting the information anywhere, so the information is limited
                > and like a needle in a haystack anyway.
                >
                > Instead of posting the information that we found for ourselves (and for
                > which we have paid quite a bit in either time or money) to a site that would
                > then ask our relatives to pay them, why don't we create our own genealogy
                > site?  We could offer the service for free or for a nominal fee that could
                > help to support the archives in Guyana.  This way we would be benefiting
                > Guyana and Guyanese and making it easier for Guyanese to connect with the
                > various branches of their relatives.  I would be more than happy to assist
                > with this venture.
                >
                > Jenn
                >
                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                > [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                > Sancho
                > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 1:27 PM
                > To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census
                >
                > 1930 United States Federal Census
                > http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=6224&ti=0
                >
                > 475 persons born in British Guiana is listed in 1930 United States
                > Federal Census.
                >
                > --
                > Sancho of Nabaclis
                > son of Muriel, brother of Mariette
                > Campbell, Sancho, Young, Martin & Ross.
                >
                >
                >
                > Visit Budmart.co.uk for all your Collecting needs !
                >
                > ________________________________
                > Yahoo! for Good
                > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
                > ________________________________
                > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
                >
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              • Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                Hello John The sad thing is that Slaves were not considered as Human beings but as Property. Only Free Coloureds were accepted as being part of Society
                Message 7 of 24 , Sep 24, 2005
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                  Hello John
                   
                  The sad thing is that Slaves were not considered as Human beings but as Property.
                   
                  Only Free Coloureds were accepted as being part of Society although at a lower status.
                   
                  As Freemen they could buy Land and Property and sadly most also bought Slaves.
                   
                  With Emancipation in 1834 all the Slaves were then free although it wasn't until 1838 with the ending of the Apprenticeship System that all Africans were finally freed from the bondage of Slavery.
                   
                  Ironically in 1838 the Indentured System was fully established which lasted up until 1917 and is commonly known as "a new System of Slavery" as conditions for the Indentured Servants weren't much better.
                   
                  Newspapers are a great source for information and for a idea of the Social History of the period.
                   
                  Regards
                   
                  Jon

                  John Wilmer <lance2703@...> wrote:

                  My two guilders worth (on the newspapers).

                  Though there is the obvious element that "things were different" back in
                  those early nineteenth century times, there is the good possibility that
                  those of African ancestry can trace their roots through the newspaper
                  sources - especially those indicated as "free coloured, free negro, free
                  mulatto."  The newspapers also record the petitions for letters of
                  manumission.  Especially interesting are the Commissary Court's transactions
                  for transports and mortgage both for land (and occasionally slaves).  Here
                  also the "free" possessed land throughout present-day Georgetown and in
                  other locales.  Those quiting the colony provide examples - here I assume
                  most would be travelling to Barbados, though there are some that are
                  distinctly travelling to Europe, the U.S. or Canada.

                  Searches on those "free" terms in MSN Search will provide some examples (see
                  also the "People" indices).  Note: Google has not examined the site for
                  productive results.

                  I'm currently examining the reel for 1817 & 1818 where some free people of
                  colour have announcements for Banns of matrimony.

                  If you'd like to assist, see the "Assist" page.

                  John Wilmer




                  >From: Guyana Genealogical Scoiety <guyanagenealogy@...>
                  >Reply-To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                  >To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                  >Subject: Re: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census
                  >Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 07:21:22 -0700 (PDT)
                  >
                  >Your are so right Jon. I attempted it this morning and was pleasantly
                  >surprised. http://www.familysearch.org/
                  >I am thinking folks should try it, before asking us to assist them - with
                  >the personal touch in research institutions.
                  >John Wilmer's collection of newspapers and colonists, which is hosted in
                  >concert with Van Cooten are resources which Guianese ought to research as
                  >well. I found a number of folks surnamed,  Stevenson , therein whom I did
                  >not encounter in my ongoing research, previously.
                  >I need to accquire the links. It is a good source for data on the European
                  >experiencein Guiana.
                  >I am thinking it is very difficult to follow the generations of Africans
                  >from it, simply because it was not designed for such a purpose.
                  >Thanks again for all - I am revitalized.
                  >
                  >"Jon - Budmart.co.uk" <budmartuk@...> wrote:
                  >Hello Sancho
                  >
                  >You can look up Familysearch from any Internet ready PC and it is a very
                  >useful tool for research.
                  >
                  >It is especially good for producing Pedigrees as it gives the names of
                  >Spouses and Parents.
                  >
                  >On the downside the user may sometimes come up with numerous hits if the
                  >name being searched is a common one that takes time to work through to
                  >seperate the not's from the maybe's.
                  >
                  >The user will also get more constructive hits if they give as less details
                  >as possible as too much information will get less results missing potential
                  >matches.
                  >
                  >It is one of the main Websites for Genealogists and should be on
                  >everybody's Internet favourites list.
                  >
                  >Regards
                  >
                  >Jon
                  >
                  >Sancho <childrenofsancho@...> wrote:
                  >Very well explained, Brother John,  Can Familysearch.org be searched
                  >from any internet ready computer? If it can be then it can be very
                  >useful to Guyanese researching their ancestry.
                  >I found a bit of data there on families of Golden Grove, and Buxton -
                  >and other rural areas of British Guiana.
                  >Very quickly the following springs to my mind; Simon, Josiah,
                  >Williams,Young, Younge, Campbell, Stoll, and Roberts....Its worth the
                  >effort.
                  >
                  >On 20/09/05, Jon - Budmart.co.uk <budmartuk@...> wrote:
                  > > Hello Jenn
                  > >
                  > > I totally agree with a lot of what you say.
                  > >
                  > > A lot of the Subscriber Websites are very costly and might not have what
                  >we
                  > > are looking for at the end of the day.
                  > >
                  > > A lot of them do free trials for a limited time, a good way of getting
                  > > information if you have got as much together as you can, you can then
                  >cross
                  > > reference it against their records and get as much as you can, printing
                  >off
                  > > copies etc. before your trial ends.
                  > >
                  > > At the end of the trial you can decide whether to continue or not but
                  >will
                  > > have obtained a little bit more of information either way.
                  > >
                  > > There are some cheaper Subscriber sites where you pay per view and can
                  >buy
                  > > credits in small quantities with each search/look up costing a few Cents
                  > > each time.
                  > >
                  > > I have also found that most of these sites cater for Americans or people
                  > > with American Ancestors rather than those who have been in the States
                  >just
                  > > for a short period or who live elsewhere.
                  > >
                  > > These sites cover the periods when your Ancestors moved there but not
                  >before
                  > > they moved there and there isn't too many sites around covering the
                  >earlier
                  > > part of their lives.
                  > >
                  > > Funnily you mention having our own Genealogy Website as we do !
                  > >
                  > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyggbs/index.htm
                  > >
                  > > It is still under construction but is online and can be viewed any time,
                  > > most of the pages are complete and are constantly being updated.
                  > >
                  > > It is completely free to use and is full of useful Links and resources.
                  > >
                  > > A browse of the Bulletin Board may turn up some Relatives as
                  >contributors
                  > > are asked to give the Surnames of their Families that are being
                  >researched.
                  > >
                  > > We also have a small number of resources that can aid your search.
                  > >
                  > > It would be ideal to have a Website that could be linked to the Guyana
                  > > National Archives and could provide many Online records but sadly due to
                  > > disinterest on the part of the Guyanese Government many such projects
                  >have
                  > > never fully taken off.
                  > >
                  > > One day we may get the assistance and co-operation we need and will be
                  >able
                  > > to produce a much better service.
                  > >
                  > > In the meantime, have a look at our Website as it is still very
                  >impressive
                  > > and is very useful.
                  > >
                  > > Regards
                  > >
                  > > Jon
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                  > > Sancho,
                  > >
                  > > It is really good to know of the existence of these sites... but I have
                  >a
                  > > problem with them.  Let me explain. When I was researching my father's
                  > > ancestry, I figured that since he was from Poland, probably some
                  >member/s of
                  > > his family had migrated to the US.  As a result I paid to join up most
                  >if
                  > > not all of these various sites and ended up spending hundreds of dollars
                  >all
                  > > to no avail.  Finally in desperation I researched all the addresses and
                  > > websites for Szala's that I could find on the internet and wrote them
                  >via
                  > > either email or snail mail.  One of the websites I found was that of my
                  > > second cousin who was studying at Oxford University in London.  He
                  >responded
                  > > after verifying with his father (my cousin) and the rest is history.  We
                  >are
                  > > now in regular contact (even with the language barrier) and they were
                  >even
                  > > able to send me a copy of a letter my mother had written to my aunt
                  >after
                  > > the death of my father along with pictures of my brother and I as kids. 
                  >You
                  > > see, my father was the only one who ever left Poland and settle anywhere
                  > > else, so there was no possibility that I could have found information
                  >about
                  > > them elsewhere.
                  > >
                  > > The reason I tell you this is that the hundreds of dollars I spent
                  >joining
                  > > up these various ancestry sites was a waste of money.  They do not allow
                  >you
                  > > to view what is available and then pay if you find the information you
                  >need.
                  > >  In addition, most of the information they have available is for
                  >descendants
                  > > of Americans.  Like most Guyanese, my ancestors did not originate in the
                  >US.
                  > >  The ancestors of Guyanese came from Europe, Asia, or Africa ... not
                  > > America.  The potential benefit of joining these sites would be only to
                  >find
                  > > descendants, not ancestors.  Most of us have that information anyway.
                  > > Furthermore, there are not that many Guyanese who are researching their
                  > > ancestry or posting the information anywhere, so the information is
                  >limited
                  > > and like a needle in a haystack anyway.
                  > >
                  > > Instead of posting the information that we found for ourselves (and for
                  > > which we have paid quite a bit in either time or money) to a site that
                  >would
                  > > then ask our relatives to pay them, why don't we create our own
                  >genealogy
                  > > site?  We could offer the service for free or for a nominal fee that
                  >could
                  > > help to support the archives in Guyana.  This way we would be benefiting
                  > > Guyana and Guyanese and making it easier for Guyanese to connect with
                  >the
                  > > various branches of their relatives.  I would be more than happy to
                  >assist
                  > > with this venture.
                  > >
                  > > Jenn
                  > >
                  > > -----Original Message-----
                  > > From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                  > > [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                  > > Sancho
                  > > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 1:27 PM
                  > > To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                  > > Subject: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census
                  > >
                  > > 1930 United States Federal Census
                  > > http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=6224&ti=0
                  > >
                  > > 475 persons born in British Guiana is listed in 1930 United States
                  > > Federal Census.
                  > >
                  > > --
                  > > Sancho of Nabaclis
                  > > son of Muriel, brother of Mariette
                  > > Campbell, Sancho, Young, Martin & Ross.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
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                • Jenn
                  Thanks Jon. Unfortunately I m currently stuck at my grand-parents info. All that I know is David Applewhaite married Beatrice Waldron sometime around 1911 and
                  Message 8 of 24 , Sep 24, 2005
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                    Thanks Jon.
                     
                    Unfortunately I'm currently stuck at my grand-parents info.  All that I know is David Applewhaite married Beatrice Waldron sometime around 1911 and had their first child, my mother on March 6, 1912.  Everything else is folk lore (word of mouth) at this stage. 
                     
                    I need to get copies of their records before I can dig further into their history.  I found several individuals that I believe may be related, but that is not verifiable at this time.
                     
                    I sent an email to the archives in Guyana, and am currently awaiting a response from the sister that runs it.  So far I have not heard anything, not even how much it would cost. 
                     
                    Jenn
                    -----Original Message-----
                    From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                    Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 4:51 PM
                    To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                    Hello Jenn and Everyone

                     

                    Below is a example of what i have recently been talking about.

                     

                    I have been sent a E-Mail by Ancestry advertising a free limited search of the 1901 Census until the end of the Month.

                     

                    If you visit

                     

                    http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk

                     

                    you can view the same records of the English and Welsh Census for free anytime.

                     

                    A lot of the information that Subscribers pay to view can be seen for free either at Ancestry or elsewhere.

                     

                    It's worth seeing what's available and what's not.

                     

                    Regards

                     

                    Jon

                     

                    Unfortunately I had already done the "trial period" prior to paying for the service.  If I were to give it another "try", I would have to automatically pay once again, without benefit of another trial period.
                     
                    Jenn

                     

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                  • Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                    Hello Jenn The best way is always to work your way backwards as the Tree gets bigger the more you go back. Their Birth records wouldn t be held at the National
                    Message 9 of 24 , Sep 24, 2005
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                      Hello Jenn
                       
                      The best way is always to work your way backwards as the Tree gets bigger the more you go back.
                       
                      Their Birth records wouldn't be held at the National Archives but at the GRO (General Records Office) in the GPO Building in Robb Street, Georgetown.
                       
                      They don't have a E-Mail Address unfortunately but can be telephoned on :

                      (592) 225-7561, (592) 226-1291, (592) 226-6333 or (592) 226-4575

                      Any British Guiana records prior to 1880 (records of Baptism, Marriage and Burial) would be held by the Parish Churches.
                       
                      I hope you can get copies of their Birth Certificates as they will help you to move back another Generation.
                       
                      Regarding the Archives, as they have recently moved they may not be replying to any E-Mails or may be slow to respond.
                       
                      I hope you can take your search further.
                       
                      Regards
                       
                      Jon
                       


                      Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                      Thanks Jon.
                       
                      Unfortunately I'm currently stuck at my grand-parents info.  All that I know is David Applewhaite married Beatrice Waldron sometime around 1911 and had their first child, my mother on March 6, 1912.  Everything else is folk lore (word of mouth) at this stage. 
                       
                      I need to get copies of their records before I can dig further into their history.  I found several individuals that I believe may be related, but that is not verifiable at this time.
                       
                      I sent an email to the archives in Guyana, and am currently awaiting a response from the sister that runs it.  So far I have not heard anything, not even how much it would cost. 
                       
                      Jenn
                      -----Original Message-----
                      From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                      Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 4:51 PM
                      To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                      Hello Jenn and Everyone

                       

                      Below is a example of what i have recently been talking about.

                       

                      I have been sent a E-Mail by Ancestry advertising a free limited search of the 1901 Census until the end of the Month.

                       

                      If you visit

                       

                      http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk

                       

                      you can view the same records of the English and Welsh Census for free anytime.

                       

                      A lot of the information that Subscribers pay to view can be seen for free either at Ancestry or elsewhere.

                       

                      It's worth seeing what's available and what's not.

                       

                      Regards

                       

                      Jon

                       

                      Unfortunately I had already done the "trial period" prior to paying for the service.  If I were to give it another "try", I would have to automatically pay once again, without benefit of another trial period.
                       
                      Jenn

                       

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                      Over 1.5 million records - Free! Click here to Search... Start tracing your family history - for FREE!

                      Exclusive opportunity: The complete 1901 UK Census* is now available to you at no charge for the rest of September.

                      Take advantage of this unique opportunity to learn about your family history through Ancestry.co.uk and gain unlimited access to records from the 1901 census:

                      • Find information about your ancestors - at no cost.
                      • Explore the 32 million names using Ancestry.co.uk's powerful search engines.
                      • Open the window to your family's history from the comfort of your own home.
                      • Discover if you are related to royalty or someone famous. The 1901 Census contains names including Queen Victoria, Charlie Chaplin, J.R.R. Tolkein and many more. Start your search now!

                      Using the resources available at Ancestry.co.uk, you can solve all sorts of family mysteries. We want to help you along the way, so let's get started.

                      Click here to access the 1901 Census FREE. Hurry, offer ends September 30th!

                      It's the easy, fun way to discover your family heritage.

                      Sincerely,

                      Ancestry.co.uk Team

                      *does not include access to actual census images.

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                    • Jenn
                      Jon, Didn t you guys say that the archives has church records? I know they were Anglicans and were married at either St Georges and Christ Church. I m hoping
                      Message 10 of 24 , Sep 24, 2005
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                        Jon,
                         
                        Didn't you guys say that the archives has church records?  I know they were Anglicans and were married at either St Georges and Christ Church.  I'm hoping that I can get a copy of their marriage certificate.  I GRO when I was in Guyana in 2001, but since I did not have their exact birth dates, they could not help me and they no longer allow anyone to just search through records.  Hopefully the archives will be able to help, else I'll have to wait for my next trip to Guyana to search for myself.  I've asked relatives who are still living there, but they are so disinterested that they would not even provide information about their current family, much less to do research.
                         
                        Jenn
                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                        Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:43 PM
                        To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                        Hello Jenn
                         
                        The best way is always to work your way backwards as the Tree gets bigger the more you go back.
                         
                        Their Birth records wouldn't be held at the National Archives but at the GRO (General Records Office) in the GPO Building in Robb Street, Georgetown.
                         
                        They don't have a E-Mail Address unfortunately but can be telephoned on :

                        (592) 225-7561, (592) 226-1291, (592) 226-6333 or (592) 226-4575

                        Any British Guiana records prior to 1880 (records of Baptism, Marriage and Burial) would be held by the Parish Churches.
                         
                        I hope you can get copies of their Birth Certificates as they will help you to move back another Generation.
                         
                        Regarding the Archives, as they have recently moved they may not be replying to any E-Mails or may be slow to respond.
                         
                        I hope you can take your search further.
                         
                        Regards
                         
                        Jon
                         


                        Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                        Thanks Jon.
                         
                        Unfortunately I'm currently stuck at my grand-parents info.  All that I know is David Applewhaite married Beatrice Waldron sometime around 1911 and had their first child, my mother on March 6, 1912.  Everything else is folk lore (word of mouth) at this stage. 
                         
                        I need to get copies of their records before I can dig further into their history.  I found several individuals that I believe may be related, but that is not verifiable at this time.
                         
                        I sent an email to the archives in Guyana, and am currently awaiting a response from the sister that runs it.  So far I have not heard anything, not even how much it would cost. 
                         
                        Jenn
                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                        Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 4:51 PM
                        To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                        Hello Jenn and Everyone

                         

                        Below is a example of what i have recently been talking about.

                         

                        I have been sent a E-Mail by Ancestry advertising a free limited search of the 1901 Census until the end of the Month.

                         

                        If you visit

                         

                        http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk

                         

                        you can view the same records of the English and Welsh Census for free anytime.

                         

                        A lot of the information that Subscribers pay to view can be seen for free either at Ancestry or elsewhere.

                         

                        It's worth seeing what's available and what's not.

                         

                        Regards

                         

                        Jon

                         

                        Unfortunately I had already done the "trial period" prior to paying for the service.  If I were to give it another "try", I would have to automatically pay once again, without benefit of another trial period.
                         
                        Jenn

                         

                        Search the 1901 Census FREE! Unrestricted access to all records and images!
                        Over 1.5 million records - Free! Click here to Search... Start tracing your family history - for FREE!

                        Exclusive opportunity: The complete 1901 UK Census* is now available to you at no charge for the rest of September.

                        Take advantage of this unique opportunity to learn about your family history through Ancestry.co.uk and gain unlimited access to records from the 1901 census:

                        • Find information about your ancestors - at no cost.
                        • Explore the 32 million names using Ancestry.co.uk's powerful search engines.
                        • Open the window to your family's history from the comfort of your own home.
                        • Discover if you are related to royalty or someone famous. The 1901 Census contains names including Queen Victoria, Charlie Chaplin, J.R.R. Tolkein and many more. Start your search now!

                        Using the resources available at Ancestry.co.uk, you can solve all sorts of family mysteries. We want to help you along the way, so let's get started.

                        Click here to access the 1901 Census FREE. Hurry, offer ends September 30th!

                        It's the easy, fun way to discover your family heritage.

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                      • Guyana Genealogical Scoiety
                        That is exactly the main problem with researching your genealogy. Guyanese, are known for talking and no action - but we it comes to themselves and relatives -
                        Message 11 of 24 , Sep 26, 2005
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                          That is exactly the main problem with researching your genealogy. Guyanese, are known for talking and no action - but we it comes to themselves and relatives - their lips are sealed, except for the very elderly, those well past 70 years of age - are far and away the family historians' best source of oral history.

                           

                          I found that my kinship the older folks who were exposed to my rudeness when I was a youngster are far more willing to cooperate with my efforts - failing memory and all. Being known as the Manish man in the kinship helps among the elderly females of my kinship.

                          It is those of my generation who disappointed me the most. The females who were like my sisters, only care to chat of their present circumstances and what has befallen Sancho in Guyana, in recent years. Their children could careless for the knowledge of their past. I know for several has told me they are concerned with their affairs - not that of their grandparents, and other fore bearers - now I wept, for those were words of fellows whose rear ends I loving cleaned as if they were my very own.

                           

                          I am enlightened by members of the community on my kinship, more than I obtain from relatives. The print media including the following are outstanding sources of information; who is who in British Guiana, fourth edition, 1945-48, Daily Argosy, and Daily Chronicle -newspapers of British Guiana, and the Official Gazette of British Guiana.

                          I guess it is easier when one's kinship in Guyana, has unique names such as Sancho, Young, and Campbell in the Guyanese Context - for in the international scope those names are quite common, indeed. Now, Although Sancho is a rare bird in England - I have not found the records of the dates of births of my ancestors therein. What is most troubling? Ignatius Sancho scholars have continued rejecting the idea that he may have fathered Sancho of Guyana, and the English speaking Caribbean nations. It is very difficult to prove them wrong for the Sancho family of Guyana has no idea when their fathers of the Guyana phase of their experience; Bentick, John and Tuckness Sancho were born. In fact, Sancho does not know when they died, and whom they married, names of their children, and children mothers - yet the known total of their off springs upon a single family tree are well past 900 souls. And, that with no accounting for one brother, and one child for another. Only, the good Lord knows the accurate tally of the descendants of Bentick, John and Tuckness Sancho. 

                          There are Sancho of Buxton and Berbice - whom I have no idea - which of the three brothers is their ancestor. And, to top that I can acquire no cooperation in getting to the bottom of it all. Guyanese lips are frozen. I wondered what Sancho has done them, which they simply refuse to shed light upon his footsteps, in their communities.

                           

                           

                          What I would like to know is what data is found on a death, and marriage certificates of a Guyanese citizen? I know the dates of marriages of two relatives in the 19th. Century. I am hoping that their documentation would enlighten me as per the names of their parents, dates of births - et. al.; for they are not found in the cemeteries.

                           

                          How about detailing the data found on marriage and death certificates?

                          Could you send me digital copies of marriage and death certificates?

                           

                          Thank you very much



                          Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                          Jon,
                           
                          Didn't you guys say that the archives has church records?  I know they were Anglicans and were married at either St Georges and Christ Church.  I'm hoping that I can get a copy of their marriage certificate.  I GRO when I was in Guyana in 2001, but since I did not have their exact birth dates, they could not help me and they no longer allow anyone to just search through records.  Hopefully the archives will be able to help, else I'll have to wait for my next trip to Guyana to search for myself.  I've asked relatives who are still living there, but they are so disinterested that they would not even provide information about their current family, much less to do research.
                           
                          Jenn
                          -----Original Message-----
                          From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                          Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:43 PM
                          To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                          Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                          Hello Jenn
                           
                          The best way is always to work your way backwards as the Tree gets bigger the more you go back.
                           
                          Their Birth records wouldn't be held at the National Archives but at the GRO (General Records Office) in the GPO Building in Robb Street, Georgetown.
                           
                          They don't have a E-Mail Address unfortunately but can be telephoned on :

                          (592) 225-7561, (592) 226-1291, (592) 226-6333 or (592) 226-4575

                          Any British Guiana records prior to 1880 (records of Baptism, Marriage and Burial) would be held by the Parish Churches.
                           
                          I hope you can get copies of their Birth Certificates as they will help you to move back another Generation.
                           
                          Regarding the Archives, as they have recently moved they may not be replying to any E-Mails or may be slow to respond.
                           
                          I hope you can take your search further.
                           
                          Regards
                           
                          Jon
                           


                          Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                          Thanks Jon.
                           
                          Unfortunately I'm currently stuck at my grand-parents info.  All that I know is David Applewhaite married Beatrice Waldron sometime around 1911 and had their first child, my mother on March 6, 1912.  Everything else is folk lore (word of mouth) at this stage. 
                           
                          I need to get copies of their records before I can dig further into their history.  I found several individuals that I believe may be related, but that is not verifiable at this time.
                           
                          I sent an email to the archives in Guyana, and am currently awaiting a response from the sister that runs it.  So far I have not heard anything, not even how much it would cost. 
                           
                          Jenn
                          -----Original Message-----
                          From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                          Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 4:51 PM
                          To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                          Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                          Hello Jenn and Everyone

                           

                          Below is a example of what i have recently been talking about.

                           

                          I have been sent a E-Mail by Ancestry advertising a free limited search of the 1901 Census until the end of the Month.

                           

                          If you visit

                           

                          http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk

                           

                          you can view the same records of the English and Welsh Census for free anytime.

                           

                          A lot of the information that Subscribers pay to view can be seen for free either at Ancestry or elsewhere.

                           

                          It's worth seeing what's available and what's not.

                           

                          Regards

                           

                          Jon

                           

                          Unfortunately I had already done the "trial period" prior to paying for the service.  If I were to give it another "try", I would have to automatically pay once again, without benefit of another trial period.
                           
                          Jenn

                           

                          Search the 1901 Census FREE! Unrestricted access to all records and images!
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                        • Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                          Hello Jenn The Archives have some Church records but most of them will still be retained by the Parish Churches. St Georges is a major Church, they most likely
                          Message 12 of 24 , Sep 26, 2005
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                            Hello Jenn
                             
                            The Archives have some Church records but most of them will still be retained by the Parish Churches.
                             
                            St Georges is a major Church, they most likely have all the records still available, i am not too sure about Christchurch.
                             
                            Some St Georges records are Online but not all, i will see if i can find anything and get back to you.
                             
                            Their Marriage Certificates will be held at the GRO, unfortunately as you say they won't let you search throught their records so you need to find the right dates.
                             
                            It is such a shame that Relatives won't help out, it is a common factor to all Genealogists when Family refuse to help or pretend they don't know anything.
                             
                            A lot of the older Generations assume we are being nosy and don't wish to tell anyone their business but they fail to understand that in decades when they are gone so will be their History !
                             
                            My own Family have lots of Photos of people who were related but no one now knows who they are or aren't sure who they are as they never passed down their details !
                             
                            It is something we have to persevere with or we would never get the information we need, you may need to trick them into talking ! LOL
                             
                            I will see if i can find anything on the Church records and get back to you although it may be a week or two but i will definately get back.
                             
                            Watch this space !
                             
                            Regards
                             
                            Jon

                            Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                            Jon,
                             
                            Didn't you guys say that the archives has church records?  I know they were Anglicans and were married at either St Georges and Christ Church.  I'm hoping that I can get a copy of their marriage certificate.  I GRO when I was in Guyana in 2001, but since I did not have their exact birth dates, they could not help me and they no longer allow anyone to just search through records.  Hopefully the archives will be able to help, else I'll have to wait for my next trip to Guyana to search for myself.  I've asked relatives who are still living there, but they are so disinterested that they would not even provide information about their current family, much less to do research.
                             
                            Jenn
                            -----Original Message-----
                            From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                            Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:43 PM
                            To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                            Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                            Hello Jenn
                             
                            The best way is always to work your way backwards as the Tree gets bigger the more you go back.
                             
                            Their Birth records wouldn't be held at the National Archives but at the GRO (General Records Office) in the GPO Building in Robb Street, Georgetown.
                             
                            They don't have a E-Mail Address unfortunately but can be telephoned on :

                            (592) 225-7561, (592) 226-1291, (592) 226-6333 or (592) 226-4575

                            Any British Guiana records prior to 1880 (records of Baptism, Marriage and Burial) would be held by the Parish Churches.
                             
                            I hope you can get copies of their Birth Certificates as they will help you to move back another Generation.
                             
                            Regarding the Archives, as they have recently moved they may not be replying to any E-Mails or may be slow to respond.
                             
                            I hope you can take your search further.
                             
                            Regards
                             
                            Jon
                             


                            Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                            Thanks Jon.
                             
                            Unfortunately I'm currently stuck at my grand-parents info.  All that I know is David Applewhaite married Beatrice Waldron sometime around 1911 and had their first child, my mother on March 6, 1912.  Everything else is folk lore (word of mouth) at this stage. 
                             
                            I need to get copies of their records before I can dig further into their history.  I found several individuals that I believe may be related, but that is not verifiable at this time.
                             
                            I sent an email to the archives in Guyana, and am currently awaiting a response from the sister that runs it.  So far I have not heard anything, not even how much it would cost. 
                             
                            Jenn
                            -----Original Message-----
                            From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                            Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 4:51 PM
                            To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                            Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                            Hello Jenn and Everyone

                             

                            Below is a example of what i have recently been talking about.

                             

                            I have been sent a E-Mail by Ancestry advertising a free limited search of the 1901 Census until the end of the Month.

                             

                            If you visit

                             

                            http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk

                             

                            you can view the same records of the English and Welsh Census for free anytime.

                             

                            A lot of the information that Subscribers pay to view can be seen for free either at Ancestry or elsewhere.

                             

                            It's worth seeing what's available and what's not.

                             

                            Regards

                             

                            Jon

                             

                            Unfortunately I had already done the "trial period" prior to paying for the service.  If I were to give it another "try", I would have to automatically pay once again, without benefit of another trial period.
                             
                            Jenn

                             

                            Search the 1901 Census FREE! Unrestricted access to all records and images!
                            Over 1.5 million records - Free! Click here to Search... Start tracing your family history - for FREE!

                            Exclusive opportunity: The complete 1901 UK Census* is now available to you at no charge for the rest of September.

                            Take advantage of this unique opportunity to learn about your family history through Ancestry.co.uk and gain unlimited access to records from the 1901 census:

                            • Find information about your ancestors - at no cost.
                            • Explore the 32 million names using Ancestry.co.uk's powerful search engines.
                            • Open the window to your family's history from the comfort of your own home.
                            • Discover if you are related to royalty or someone famous. The 1901 Census contains names including Queen Victoria, Charlie Chaplin, J.R.R. Tolkein and many more. Start your search now!

                            Using the resources available at Ancestry.co.uk, you can solve all sorts of family mysteries. We want to help you along the way, so let's get started.

                            Click here to access the 1901 Census FREE. Hurry, offer ends September 30th!

                            It's the easy, fun way to discover your family heritage.

                            Sincerely,

                            Ancestry.co.uk Team

                            *does not include access to actual census images.

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                          • Jenn
                            Jon, Thank you. You guys are much more helpful than my own family members. As you said, most of them are too busy or just do not care. Although I told
                            Message 13 of 24 , Sep 27, 2005
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                              Jon,
                               
                              Thank you.  You guys are much more helpful than my own family members.  As you said, most of them are "too busy" or just do not care.  Although I told them that I am creating a genealogical history of the family and would provide them each with a copy free of charge, I am still waiting (for two years now) for the information about current descendants of two brothers.  As for the ancestors, all of the aunts, uncles, and parents are all dead ... so except for siblings, there is nothing else.  Most of them are either in Canada, the US, or dead.  So my only hope for help is from nieces or nephews ... but they are the ones who are "too busy" or disinterested.  What yuh gun do?  Sadly enough when they want something, they aren't too busy then.  Maybe I'll start using some blackmail.   If you want something ... then do something.
                              Too bad we have to resort to these tactics.
                               
                              Jenn
                              -----Original Message-----
                              From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                              Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:05 PM
                              To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                              Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                              Hello Jenn
                               
                              The Archives have some Church records but most of them will still be retained by the Parish Churches.
                               
                              St Georges is a major Church, they most likely have all the records still available, i am not too sure about Christchurch.
                               
                              Some St Georges records are Online but not all, i will see if i can find anything and get back to you.
                               
                              Their Marriage Certificates will be held at the GRO, unfortunately as you say they won't let you search throught their records so you need to find the right dates.
                               
                              It is such a shame that Relatives won't help out, it is a common factor to all Genealogists when Family refuse to help or pretend they don't know anything.
                               
                              A lot of the older Generations assume we are being nosy and don't wish to tell anyone their business but they fail to understand that in decades when they are gone so will be their History !
                               
                              My own Family have lots of Photos of people who were related but no one now knows who they are or aren't sure who they are as they never passed down their details !
                               
                              It is something we have to persevere with or we would never get the information we need, you may need to trick them into talking ! LOL
                               
                              I will see if i can find anything on the Church records and get back to you although it may be a week or two but i will definately get back.
                               
                              Watch this space !
                               
                              Regards
                               
                              Jon

                              Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                              Jon,
                               
                              Didn't you guys say that the archives has church records?  I know they were Anglicans and were married at either St Georges and Christ Church.  I'm hoping that I can get a copy of their marriage certificate.  I GRO when I was in Guyana in 2001, but since I did not have their exact birth dates, they could not help me and they no longer allow anyone to just search through records.  Hopefully the archives will be able to help, else I'll have to wait for my next trip to Guyana to search for myself.  I've asked relatives who are still living there, but they are so disinterested that they would not even provide information about their current family, much less to do research.
                               
                              Jenn
                              -----Original Message-----
                              From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                              Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:43 PM
                              To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                              Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                              Hello Jenn
                               
                              The best way is always to work your way backwards as the Tree gets bigger the more you go back.
                               
                              Their Birth records wouldn't be held at the National Archives but at the GRO (General Records Office) in the GPO Building in Robb Street, Georgetown.
                               
                              They don't have a E-Mail Address unfortunately but can be telephoned on :

                              (592) 225-7561, (592) 226-1291, (592) 226-6333 or (592) 226-4575

                              Any British Guiana records prior to 1880 (records of Baptism, Marriage and Burial) would be held by the Parish Churches.
                               
                              I hope you can get copies of their Birth Certificates as they will help you to move back another Generation.
                               
                              Regarding the Archives, as they have recently moved they may not be replying to any E-Mails or may be slow to respond.
                               
                              I hope you can take your search further.
                               
                              Regards
                               
                              Jon
                               


                              Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                              Thanks Jon.
                               
                              Unfortunately I'm currently stuck at my grand-parents info.  All that I know is David Applewhaite married Beatrice Waldron sometime around 1911 and had their first child, my mother on March 6, 1912.  Everything else is folk lore (word of mouth) at this stage. 
                               
                              I need to get copies of their records before I can dig further into their history.  I found several individuals that I believe may be related, but that is not verifiable at this time.
                               
                              I sent an email to the archives in Guyana, and am currently awaiting a response from the sister that runs it.  So far I have not heard anything, not even how much it would cost. 
                               
                              Jenn
                              -----Original Message-----
                              From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                              Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 4:51 PM
                              To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                              Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                              Hello Jenn and Everyone

                               

                              Below is a example of what i have recently been talking about.

                               

                              I have been sent a E-Mail by Ancestry advertising a free limited search of the 1901 Census until the end of the Month.

                               

                              If you visit

                               

                              http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk

                               

                              you can view the same records of the English and Welsh Census for free anytime.

                               

                              A lot of the information that Subscribers pay to view can be seen for free either at Ancestry or elsewhere.

                               

                              It's worth seeing what's available and what's not.

                               

                              Regards

                               

                              Jon

                               

                              Unfortunately I had already done the "trial period" prior to paying for the service.  If I were to give it another "try", I would have to automatically pay once again, without benefit of another trial period.
                               
                              Jenn

                               

                              Search the 1901 Census FREE! Unrestricted access to all records and images!
                              Over 1.5 million records - Free! Click here to Search... Start tracing your family history - for FREE!

                              Exclusive opportunity: The complete 1901 UK Census* is now available to you at no charge for the rest of September.

                              Take advantage of this unique opportunity to learn about your family history through Ancestry.co.uk and gain unlimited access to records from the 1901 census:

                              • Find information about your ancestors - at no cost.
                              • Explore the 32 million names using Ancestry.co.uk's powerful search engines.
                              • Open the window to your family's history from the comfort of your own home.
                              • Discover if you are related to royalty or someone famous. The 1901 Census contains names including Queen Victoria, Charlie Chaplin, J.R.R. Tolkein and many more. Start your search now!

                              Using the resources available at Ancestry.co.uk, you can solve all sorts of family mysteries. We want to help you along the way, so let's get started.

                              Click here to access the 1901 Census FREE. Hurry, offer ends September 30th!

                              It's the easy, fun way to discover your family heritage.

                              Sincerely,

                              Ancestry.co.uk Team

                              *does not include access to actual census images.

                              PRIVACY POLICY
                              Ancestry.co.uk does not sell, rent or otherwise distribute the personal information you provide us to third party advertisers.

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                            • Richard B. Cheddie
                              Jenn, What I have found to be helpful in getting info is to send an outline of a family tree with blatantly erroneous info (like putting the wrong children s
                              Message 14 of 24 , Sep 27, 2005
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                                Jenn,

                                 

                                What I have found to be helpful in getting info is to send an outline of a family tree with blatantly erroneous info (like putting the wrong children’s name under the person whose children name you need) to the person who is not providing the data and ask them to verify that their name is spelled correctly and let them know that you will soon be sending it out for printing and framing as soon as you get in all of the corrected info from the rest of the family. This usually gets a prompt call or e-mail to correct the issue. A little bit of tergiversation, but it all for the good of the clan.

                                 

                                Sometimes it takes an important event, or something totally unrelated to the genealogy project that gets family members interested. Don’t give up hope. You would be surprised who comes around after a number of years.

                                 

                                 

                                Cheddie

                                 

                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenn
                                Sent:
                                Tuesday, September 27, 2005 5:38 PM
                                To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                                 

                                Jon,

                                 

                                Thank you.  You guys are much more helpful than my own family members.  As you said, most of them are "too busy" or just do not care.  Although I told them that I am creating a genealogical history of the family and would provide them each with a copy free of charge, I am still waiting (for two years now) for the information about current descendants of two brothers.  As for the ancestors, all of the aunts, uncles, and parents are all dead ... so except for siblings, there is nothing else.  Most of them are either in Canada, the US, or dead.  So my only hope for help is from nieces or nephews ... but they are the ones who are "too busy" or disinterested.  What yuh gun do?  Sadly enough when they want something, they aren't too busy then.  Maybe I'll start using some blackmail.   If you want something ... then do something.

                                Too bad we have to resort to these tactics.

                                 

                                Jenn


                              • Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                                Hello Jenn We are all interested in the same Subject and have all been where you have been regarding Family interest. We have to be Physcologists and
                                Message 15 of 24 , Sep 28, 2005
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                                  Hello Jenn
                                   
                                  We are all interested in the same Subject and have all been where you have been regarding Family interest.
                                   
                                  We have to be Physcologists and Sociologists as well as Genealogists in this Game !
                                   
                                  Family get togethers are a good way where we can quietly sneak Genealogy in without anyone noticing by adding Humour or telling stories, then they will start to talk, a few bottles of Rum can also work wonders ! LOL
                                   
                                  "Ah lickle Rum help de 'ol folk dem tell good story !" LOL
                                   
                                  Seriously, i wouldn't let it get your back up and give tit for tat but help them out when they ask but remind them how good you are to do it for them but would like a favour in return !
                                   
                                  There are ways of getting information, we just need patience and to be a bit crafty !
                                   
                                  Regards
                                   
                                  Jon


                                  Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                                  Jon,
                                   
                                  Thank you.  You guys are much more helpful than my own family members.  As you said, most of them are "too busy" or just do not care.  Although I told them that I am creating a genealogical history of the family and would provide them each with a copy free of charge, I am still waiting (for two years now) for the information about current descendants of two brothers.  As for the ancestors, all of the aunts, uncles, and parents are all dead ... so except for siblings, there is nothing else.  Most of them are either in Canada, the US, or dead.  So my only hope for help is from nieces or nephews ... but they are the ones who are "too busy" or disinterested.  What yuh gun do?  Sadly enough when they want something, they aren't too busy then.  Maybe I'll start using some blackmail.   If you want something ... then do something.
                                  Too bad we have to resort to these tactics.
                                   
                                  Jenn
                                  -----Original Message-----
                                  From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                                  Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:05 PM
                                  To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                                  Hello Jenn
                                   
                                  The Archives have some Church records but most of them will still be retained by the Parish Churches.
                                   
                                  St Georges is a major Church, they most likely have all the records still available, i am not too sure about Christchurch.
                                   
                                  Some St Georges records are Online but not all, i will see if i can find anything and get back to you.
                                   
                                  Their Marriage Certificates will be held at the GRO, unfortunately as you say they won't let you search throught their records so you need to find the right dates.
                                   
                                  It is such a shame that Relatives won't help out, it is a common factor to all Genealogists when Family refuse to help or pretend they don't know anything.
                                   
                                  A lot of the older Generations assume we are being nosy and don't wish to tell anyone their business but they fail to understand that in decades when they are gone so will be their History !
                                   
                                  My own Family have lots of Photos of people who were related but no one now knows who they are or aren't sure who they are as they never passed down their details !
                                   
                                  It is something we have to persevere with or we would never get the information we need, you may need to trick them into talking ! LOL
                                   
                                  I will see if i can find anything on the Church records and get back to you although it may be a week or two but i will definately get back.
                                   
                                  Watch this space !
                                   
                                  Regards
                                   
                                  Jon

                                  Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                                  Jon,
                                   
                                  Didn't you guys say that the archives has church records?  I know they were Anglicans and were married at either St Georges and Christ Church.  I'm hoping that I can get a copy of their marriage certificate.  I GRO when I was in Guyana in 2001, but since I did not have their exact birth dates, they could not help me and they no longer allow anyone to just search through records.  Hopefully the archives will be able to help, else I'll have to wait for my next trip to Guyana to search for myself.  I've asked relatives who are still living there, but they are so disinterested that they would not even provide information about their current family, much less to do research.
                                   
                                  Jenn
                                  -----Original Message-----
                                  From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                                  Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:43 PM
                                  To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                                  Hello Jenn
                                   
                                  The best way is always to work your way backwards as the Tree gets bigger the more you go back.
                                   
                                  Their Birth records wouldn't be held at the National Archives but at the GRO (General Records Office) in the GPO Building in Robb Street, Georgetown.
                                   
                                  They don't have a E-Mail Address unfortunately but can be telephoned on :

                                  (592) 225-7561, (592) 226-1291, (592) 226-6333 or (592) 226-4575

                                  Any British Guiana records prior to 1880 (records of Baptism, Marriage and Burial) would be held by the Parish Churches.
                                   
                                  I hope you can get copies of their Birth Certificates as they will help you to move back another Generation.
                                   
                                  Regarding the Archives, as they have recently moved they may not be replying to any E-Mails or may be slow to respond.
                                   
                                  I hope you can take your search further.
                                   
                                  Regards
                                   
                                  Jon
                                   


                                  Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                                  Thanks Jon.
                                   
                                  Unfortunately I'm currently stuck at my grand-parents info.  All that I know is David Applewhaite married Beatrice Waldron sometime around 1911 and had their first child, my mother on March 6, 1912.  Everything else is folk lore (word of mouth) at this stage. 
                                   
                                  I need to get copies of their records before I can dig further into their history.  I found several individuals that I believe may be related, but that is not verifiable at this time.
                                   
                                  I sent an email to the archives in Guyana, and am currently awaiting a response from the sister that runs it.  So far I have not heard anything, not even how much it would cost. 
                                   
                                  Jenn
                                  -----Original Message-----
                                  From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                                  Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 4:51 PM
                                  To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                                  Hello Jenn and Everyone

                                   

                                  Below is a example of what i have recently been talking about.

                                   

                                  I have been sent a E-Mail by Ancestry advertising a free limited search of the 1901 Census until the end of the Month.

                                   

                                  If you visit

                                   

                                  http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk

                                   

                                  you can view the same records of the English and Welsh Census for free anytime.

                                   

                                  A lot of the information that Subscribers pay to view can be seen for free either at Ancestry or elsewhere.

                                   

                                  It's worth seeing what's available and what's not.

                                   

                                  Regards

                                   

                                  Jon

                                   

                                  Unfortunately I had already done the "trial period" prior to paying for the service.  If I were to give it another "try", I would have to automatically pay once again, without benefit of another trial period.
                                   
                                  Jenn

                                   

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                                  Over 1.5 million records - Free! Click here to Search... Start tracing your family history - for FREE!

                                  Exclusive opportunity: The complete 1901 UK Census* is now available to you at no charge for the rest of September.

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                                  • Find information about your ancestors - at no cost.
                                  • Explore the 32 million names using Ancestry.co.uk's powerful search engines.
                                  • Open the window to your family's history from the comfort of your own home.
                                  • Discover if you are related to royalty or someone famous. The 1901 Census contains names including Queen Victoria, Charlie Chaplin, J.R.R. Tolkein and many more. Start your search now!

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                                  Click here to access the 1901 Census FREE. Hurry, offer ends September 30th!

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                                  Sancho, I will try to find the copy of my marriage certificate to my ex and post that later. I ve recreated the form that is used for birth certificates and
                                  Message 16 of 24 , Sep 30, 2005
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                                    Sancho,
                                     
                                    I will try to find the copy of my marriage certificate to my ex and post that later.  I've recreated the form that is used for birth certificates and am attaching it here for you.  I does not list the birthdates of the parents unfortunately.    In the section for Father's and Mother's names, the term "other description" was usually satisfied with the term "Native of" followed by their country of Birth.
                                     
                                    Jenn
                                     
                                    From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Guyana Genealogical Scoiety
                                    Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 12:46 PM
                                    To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com; goldengrovenabaclis@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                                    That is exactly the main problem with researching your genealogy. Guyanese, are known for talking and no action - but we it comes to themselves and relatives - their lips are sealed, except for the very elderly, those well past 70 years of age - are far and away the family historians' best source of oral history.

                                     

                                    I found that my kinship the older folks who were exposed to my rudeness when I was a youngster are far more willing to cooperate with my efforts - failing memory and all. Being known as the Manish man in the kinship helps among the elderly females of my kinship.

                                    It is those of my generation who disappointed me the most. The females who were like my sisters, only care to chat of their present circumstances and what has befallen Sancho in Guyana, in recent years. Their children could careless for the knowledge of their past. I know for several has told me they are concerned with their affairs - not that of their grandparents, and other fore bearers - now I wept, for those were words of fellows whose rear ends I loving cleaned as if they were my very own.

                                     

                                    I am enlightened by members of the community on my kinship, more than I obtain from relatives. The print media including the following are outstanding sources of information; who is who in British Guiana, fourth edition, 1945-48, Daily Argosy, and Daily Chronicle -newspapers of British Guiana, and the Official Gazette of British Guiana.

                                    I guess it is easier when one's kinship in Guyana, has unique names such as Sancho, Young, and Campbell in the Guyanese Context - for in the international scope those names are quite common, indeed. Now, Although Sancho is a rare bird in England - I have not found the records of the dates of births of my ancestors therein. What is most troubling? Ignatius Sancho scholars have continued rejecting the idea that he may have fathered Sancho of Guyana, and the English speaking Caribbean nations. It is very difficult to prove them wrong for the Sancho family of Guyana has no idea when their fathers of the Guyana phase of their experience; Bentick, John and Tuckness Sancho were born. In fact, Sancho does not know when they died, and whom they married, names of their children, and children mothers - yet the known total of their off springs upon a single family tree are well past 900 souls. And, that with no accounting for one brother, and one child for another. Only, the good Lord knows the accurate tally of the descendants of Bentick, John and Tuckness Sancho. 

                                    There are Sancho of Buxton and Berbice - whom I have no idea - which of the three brothers is their ancestor. And, to top that I can acquire no cooperation in getting to the bottom of it all. Guyanese lips are frozen. I wondered what Sancho has done them, which they simply refuse to shed light upon his footsteps, in their communities.

                                     

                                     

                                    What I would like to know is what data is found on a death, and marriage certificates of a Guyanese citizen? I know the dates of marriages of two relatives in the 19th. Century. I am hoping that their documentation would enlighten me as per the names of their parents, dates of births - et. al.; for they are not found in the cemeteries.

                                     

                                    How about detailing the data found on marriage and death certificates?

                                    Could you send me digital copies of marriage and death certificates?

                                     

                                    Thank you very much



                                    Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                                    Jon,
                                     
                                    Didn't you guys say that the archives has church records?  I know they were Anglicans and were married at either St Georges and Christ Church.  I'm hoping that I can get a copy of their marriage certificate.  I GRO when I was in Guyana in 2001, but since I did not have their exact birth dates, they could not help me and they no longer allow anyone to just search through records.  Hopefully the archives will be able to help, else I'll have to wait for my next trip to Guyana to search for myself.  I've asked relatives who are still living there, but they are so disinterested that they would not even provide information about their current family, much less to do research.
                                     
                                    Jenn
                                    -----Original Message-----
                                    From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                                    Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:43 PM
                                    To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                                    Hello Jenn
                                     
                                    The best way is always to work your way backwards as the Tree gets bigger the more you go back.
                                     
                                    Their Birth records wouldn't be held at the National Archives but at the GRO (General Records Office) in the GPO Building in Robb Street, Georgetown.
                                     
                                    They don't have a E-Mail Address unfortunately but can be telephoned on :

                                    (592) 225-7561, (592) 226-1291, (592) 226-6333 or (592) 226-4575

                                    Any British Guiana records prior to 1880 (records of Baptism, Marriage and Burial) would be held by the Parish Churches.
                                     
                                    I hope you can get copies of their Birth Certificates as they will help you to move back another Generation.
                                     
                                    Regarding the Archives, as they have recently moved they may not be replying to any E-Mails or may be slow to respond.
                                     
                                    I hope you can take your search further.
                                     
                                    Regards
                                     
                                    Jon
                                     


                                    Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                                    Thanks Jon.
                                     
                                    Unfortunately I'm currently stuck at my grand-parents info.  All that I know is David Applewhaite married Beatrice Waldron sometime around 1911 and had their first child, my mother on March 6, 1912.  Everything else is folk lore (word of mouth) at this stage. 
                                     
                                    I need to get copies of their records before I can dig further into their history.  I found several individuals that I believe may be related, but that is not verifiable at this time.
                                     
                                    I sent an email to the archives in Guyana, and am currently awaiting a response from the sister that runs it.  So far I have not heard anything, not even how much it would cost. 
                                     
                                    Jenn
                                    -----Original Message-----
                                    From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                                    Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 4:51 PM
                                    To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                                    Hello Jenn and Everyone

                                     

                                    Below is a example of what i have recently been talking about.

                                     

                                    I have been sent a E-Mail by Ancestry advertising a free limited search of the 1901 Census until the end of the Month.

                                     

                                    If you visit

                                     

                                    http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk

                                     

                                    you can view the same records of the English and Welsh Census for free anytime.

                                     

                                    A lot of the information that Subscribers pay to view can be seen for free either at Ancestry or elsewhere.

                                     

                                    It's worth seeing what's available and what's not.

                                     

                                    Regards

                                     

                                    Jon

                                     

                                    Unfortunately I had already done the "trial period" prior to paying for the service.  If I were to give it another "try", I would have to automatically pay once again, without benefit of another trial period.
                                     
                                    Jenn

                                     

                                    Search the 1901 Census FREE! Unrestricted access to all records and images!
                                    Over 1.5 million records - Free! Click here to Search... Start tracing your family history - for FREE!

                                    Exclusive opportunity: The complete 1901 UK Census* is now available to you at no charge for the rest of September.

                                    Take advantage of this unique opportunity to learn about your family history through Ancestry.co.uk and gain unlimited access to records from the 1901 census:

                                    • Find information about your ancestors - at no cost.
                                    • Explore the 32 million names using Ancestry.co.uk's powerful search engines.
                                    • Open the window to your family's history from the comfort of your own home.
                                    • Discover if you are related to royalty or someone famous. The 1901 Census contains names including Queen Victoria, Charlie Chaplin, J.R.R. Tolkein and many more. Start your search now!

                                    Using the resources available at Ancestry.co.uk, you can solve all sorts of family mysteries. We want to help you along the way, so let's get started.

                                    Click here to access the 1901 Census FREE. Hurry, offer ends September 30th!

                                    It's the easy, fun way to discover your family heritage.

                                    Sincerely,

                                    Ancestry.co.uk Team

                                    *does not include access to actual census images.

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                                  • Guyana Genealogical Scoiety
                                    Hi Jenn, I thank you so very much. I do not know when last I viewed a Guyanese birth certificate. I do not know where the last copy of documenting the data of
                                    Message 17 of 24 , Oct 5, 2005
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                                      Hi Jenn,
                                       
                                      I thank you  so very much. I do not know when last I viewed a Guyanese birth certificate. I do not know where the last copy of documenting the data of my birthing  I had in my possession is. I believe in Detroit. More than likely it was thrown in the garbage - left Detroit in February 1985. I remember because it was the last time I saw images of myself which were photographed in Guyana.
                                      Any one who knows what is found on the death certificate (Guyanese) feel free to holler - will you?

                                      Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                                      Sancho,
                                       
                                      I will try to find the copy of my marriage certificate to my ex and post that later.  I've recreated the form that is used for birth certificates and am attaching it here for you.  I does not list the birthdates of the parents unfortunately.    In the section for Father's and Mother's names, the term "other description" was usually satisfied with the term "Native of" followed by their country of Birth.
                                       
                                      Jenn
                                       
                                      From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Guyana Genealogical Scoiety
                                      Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 12:46 PM
                                      To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com; goldengrovenabaclis@yahoogroups.com
                                      Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                                      That is exactly the main problem with researching your genealogy. Guyanese, are known for talking and no action - but we it comes to themselves and relatives - their lips are sealed, except for the very elderly, those well past 70 years of age - are far and away the family historians' best source of oral history.

                                       

                                      I found that my kinship the older folks who were exposed to my rudeness when I was a youngster are far more willing to cooperate with my efforts - failing memory and all. Being known as the Manish man in the kinship helps among the elderly females of my kinship.

                                      It is those of my generation who disappointed me the most. The females who were like my sisters, only care to chat of their present circumstances and what has befallen Sancho in Guyana, in recent years. Their children could careless for the knowledge of their past. I know for several has told me they are concerned with their affairs - not that of their grandparents, and other fore bearers - now I wept, for those were words of fellows whose rear ends I loving cleaned as if they were my very own.

                                       

                                      I am enlightened by members of the community on my kinship, more than I obtain from relatives. The print media including the following are outstanding sources of information; who is who in British Guiana, fourth edition, 1945-48, Daily Argosy, and Daily Chronicle -newspapers of British Guiana, and the Official Gazette of British Guiana.

                                      I guess it is easier when one's kinship in Guyana, has unique names such as Sancho, Young, and Campbell in the Guyanese Context - for in the international scope those names are quite common, indeed. Now, Although Sancho is a rare bird in England - I have not found the records of the dates of births of my ancestors therein. What is most troubling? Ignatius Sancho scholars have continued rejecting the idea that he may have fathered Sancho of Guyana, and the English speaking Caribbean nations. It is very difficult to prove them wrong for the Sancho family of Guyana has no idea when their fathers of the Guyana phase of their experience; Bentick, John and Tuckness Sancho were born. In fact, Sancho does not know when they died, and whom they married, names of their children, and children mothers - yet the known total of their off springs upon a single family tree are well past 900 souls. And, that with no accounting for one brother, and one child for another. Only, the good Lord knows the accurate tally of the descendants of Bentick, John and Tuckness Sancho. 

                                      There are Sancho of Buxton and Berbice - whom I have no idea - which of the three brothers is their ancestor. And, to top that I can acquire no cooperation in getting to the bottom of it all. Guyanese lips are frozen. I wondered what Sancho has done them, which they simply refuse to shed light upon his footsteps, in their communities.

                                       

                                       

                                      What I would like to know is what data is found on a death, and marriage certificates of a Guyanese citizen? I know the dates of marriages of two relatives in the 19th. Century. I am hoping that their documentation would enlighten me as per the names of their parents, dates of births - et. al.; for they are not found in the cemeteries.

                                       

                                      How about detailing the data found on marriage and death certificates?

                                      Could you send me digital copies of marriage and death certificates?

                                       

                                      Thank you very much



                                      Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                                      Jon,
                                       
                                      Didn't you guys say that the archives has church records?  I know they were Anglicans and were married at either St Georges and Christ Church.  I'm hoping that I can get a copy of their marriage certificate.  I GRO when I was in Guyana in 2001, but since I did not have their exact birth dates, they could not help me and they no longer allow anyone to just search through records.  Hopefully the archives will be able to help, else I'll have to wait for my next trip to Guyana to search for myself.  I've asked relatives who are still living there, but they are so disinterested that they would not even provide information about their current family, much less to do research.
                                       
                                      Jenn
                                      -----Original Message-----
                                      From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                                      Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:43 PM
                                      To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                                      Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                                      Hello Jenn
                                       
                                      The best way is always to work your way backwards as the Tree gets bigger the more you go back.
                                       
                                      Their Birth records wouldn't be held at the National Archives but at the GRO (General Records Office) in the GPO Building in Robb Street, Georgetown.
                                       
                                      They don't have a E-Mail Address unfortunately but can be telephoned on :

                                      (592) 225-7561, (592) 226-1291, (592) 226-6333 or (592) 226-4575

                                      Any British Guiana records prior to 1880 (records of Baptism, Marriage and Burial) would be held by the Parish Churches.
                                       
                                      I hope you can get copies of their Birth Certificates as they will help you to move back another Generation.
                                       
                                      Regarding the Archives, as they have recently moved they may not be replying to any E-Mails or may be slow to respond.
                                       
                                      I hope you can take your search further.
                                       
                                      Regards
                                       
                                      Jon
                                       


                                      Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                                      Thanks Jon.
                                       
                                      Unfortunately I'm currently stuck at my grand-parents info.  All that I know is David Applewhaite married Beatrice Waldron sometime around 1911 and had their first child, my mother on March 6, 1912.  Everything else is folk lore (word of mouth) at this stage. 
                                       
                                      I need to get copies of their records before I can dig further into their history.  I found several individuals that I believe may be related, but that is not verifiable at this time.
                                       
                                      I sent an email to the archives in Guyana, and am currently awaiting a response from the sister that runs it.  So far I have not heard anything, not even how much it would cost. 
                                       
                                      Jenn
                                      -----Original Message-----
                                      From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                                      Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 4:51 PM
                                      To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                                      Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States Federal Census

                                      Hello Jenn and Everyone

                                       

                                      Below is a example of what i have recently been talking about.

                                       

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                                      A lot of the information that Subscribers pay to view can be seen for free either at Ancestry or elsewhere.

                                       

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                                      Jon

                                       

                                      Unfortunately I had already done the "trial period" prior to paying for the service.  If I were to give it another "try", I would have to automatically pay once again, without benefit of another trial period.
                                       
                                      Jenn

                                       

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                                      From what i can remember, on the birth certificate it has the name of your parents, their birthdates(i think), occupation etc. ... === message truncated ===
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                                        From what i can remember, on the birth certificate it
                                        has the name of your parents, their birthdates(i
                                        think), occupation etc.

                                        --- Guyana Genealogical Scoiety
                                        <guyanagenealogy@...> wrote:

                                        > Hi Jenn,
                                        >
                                        > I thank you so very much. I do not know when last I
                                        > viewed a Guyanese birth certificate. I do not know
                                        > where the last copy of documenting the data of my
                                        > birthing I had in my possession is. I believe in
                                        > Detroit. More than likely it was thrown in the
                                        > garbage - left Detroit in February 1985. I remember
                                        > because it was the last time I saw images of myself
                                        > which were photographed in Guyana.
                                        > Any one who knows what is found on the death
                                        > certificate (Guyanese) feel free to holler - will
                                        > you?
                                        >
                                        > Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                                        > Sancho,
                                        >
                                        > I will try to find the copy of my marriage
                                        > certificate to my ex and post that later. I've
                                        > recreated the form that is used for birth
                                        > certificates and am attaching it here for you. I
                                        > does not list the birthdates of the parents
                                        > unfortunately. In the section for Father's and
                                        > Mother's names, the term "other description" was
                                        > usually satisfied with the term "Native of" followed
                                        > by their country of Birth.
                                        >
                                        > Jenn
                                        >
                                        > From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                                        > [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On
                                        > Behalf Of Guyana Genealogical Scoiety
                                        > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 12:46 PM
                                        > To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com;
                                        > goldengrovenabaclis@yahoogroups.com
                                        > Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States
                                        > Federal Census
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > That is exactly the main problem with researching
                                        > your genealogy. Guyanese, are known for talking and
                                        > no action - but we it comes to themselves and
                                        > relatives - their lips are sealed, except for the
                                        > very elderly, those well past 70 years of age - are
                                        > far and away the family historians' best source of
                                        > oral history.
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > I found that my kinship the older folks who were
                                        > exposed to my rudeness when I was a youngster are
                                        > far more willing to cooperate with my efforts -
                                        > failing memory and all. Being known as the Manish
                                        > man in the kinship helps among the elderly females
                                        > of my kinship.
                                        >
                                        > It is those of my generation who disappointed me the
                                        > most. The females who were like my sisters, only
                                        > care to chat of their present circumstances and what
                                        > has befallen Sancho in Guyana, in recent years.
                                        > Their children could careless for the knowledge of
                                        > their past. I know for several has told me they are
                                        > concerned with their affairs - not that of their
                                        > grandparents, and other fore bearers - now I wept,
                                        > for those were words of fellows whose rear ends I
                                        > loving cleaned as if they were my very own.
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > I am enlightened by members of the community on my
                                        > kinship, more than I obtain from relatives. The
                                        > print media including the following are outstanding
                                        > sources of information; who is who in British
                                        > Guiana, fourth edition, 1945-48, Daily Argosy, and
                                        > Daily Chronicle -newspapers of British Guiana, and
                                        > the Official Gazette of British Guiana.
                                        >
                                        > I guess it is easier when one's kinship in Guyana,
                                        > has unique names such as Sancho, Young, and Campbell
                                        > in the Guyanese Context - for in the international
                                        > scope those names are quite common, indeed. Now,
                                        > Although Sancho is a rare bird in England - I have
                                        > not found the records of the dates of births of my
                                        > ancestors therein. What is most troubling? Ignatius
                                        > Sancho scholars have continued rejecting the idea
                                        > that he may have fathered Sancho of Guyana, and the
                                        > English speaking Caribbean nations. It is very
                                        > difficult to prove them wrong for the Sancho family
                                        > of Guyana has no idea when their fathers of the
                                        > Guyana phase of their experience; Bentick, John and
                                        > Tuckness Sancho were born. In fact, Sancho does not
                                        > know when they died, and whom they married, names of
                                        > their children, and children mothers - yet the known
                                        > total of their off springs upon a single family tree
                                        > are well past 900 souls. And, that with no
                                        > accounting for one brother, and one child for
                                        > another. Only, the good Lord knows the
                                        > accurate tally of the descendants of Bentick, John
                                        > and Tuckness Sancho.
                                        >
                                        > There are Sancho of Buxton and Berbice - whom I have
                                        > no idea - which of the three brothers is their
                                        > ancestor. And, to top that I can acquire no
                                        > cooperation in getting to the bottom of it all.
                                        > Guyanese lips are frozen. I wondered what Sancho has
                                        > done them, which they simply refuse to shed light
                                        > upon his footsteps, in their communities.
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > What I would like to know is what data is found on a
                                        > death, and marriage certificates of a Guyanese
                                        > citizen? I know the dates of marriages of two
                                        > relatives in the 19th. Century. I am hoping that
                                        > their documentation would enlighten me as per the
                                        > names of their parents, dates of births - et. al.;
                                        > for they are not found in the cemeteries.
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > How about detailing the data found on marriage and
                                        > death certificates?
                                        >
                                        > Could you send me digital copies of marriage and
                                        > death certificates?
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > Thank you very much
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                                        > Jon,
                                        >
                                        > Didn't you guys say that the archives has church
                                        > records? I know they were Anglicans and were
                                        > married at either St Georges and Christ Church. I'm
                                        > hoping that I can get a copy of their marriage
                                        > certificate. I GRO when I was in Guyana in 2001,
                                        > but since I did not have their exact birth dates,
                                        > they could not help me and they no longer allow
                                        > anyone to just search through records. Hopefully
                                        > the archives will be able to help, else I'll have to
                                        > wait for my next trip to Guyana to search for
                                        > myself. I've asked relatives who are still living
                                        > there, but they are so disinterested that they would
                                        > not even provide information about their current
                                        > family, much less to do research.
                                        >
                                        > Jenn
                                        >
                                        > -----Original Message-----
                                        > From: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                                        > [mailto:guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com] On
                                        > Behalf Of Jon - Budmart.co.uk
                                        > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:43 PM
                                        > To: guyanese_genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                                        > Subject: RE: [guyanese_genealogy] 1930 United States
                                        > Federal Census
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > Hello Jenn
                                        >
                                        > The best way is always to work your way backwards as
                                        > the Tree gets bigger the more you go back.
                                        >
                                        > Their Birth records wouldn't be held at the National
                                        > Archives but at the GRO (General Records Office) in
                                        > the GPO Building in Robb Street, Georgetown.
                                        >
                                        > They don't have a E-Mail Address unfortunately but
                                        > can be telephoned on :
                                        >
                                        > (592) 225-7561, (592) 226-1291, (592) 226-6333 or
                                        > (592) 226-4575
                                        >
                                        > Any British Guiana records prior to 1880 (records of
                                        > Baptism, Marriage and Burial) would be held by the
                                        > Parish Churches.
                                        >
                                        > I hope you can get copies of their Birth
                                        > Certificates as they will help you to move back
                                        > another Generation.
                                        >
                                        > Regarding the Archives, as they have recently moved
                                        > they may not be replying to any E-Mails or may be
                                        > slow to respond.
                                        >
                                        > I hope you can take your search further.
                                        >
                                        > Regards
                                        >
                                        > Jon
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > Jenn <jmss114@...> wrote:
                                        > Thanks Jon.
                                        >
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